The Patriots agree to a one-year deal with free-agent wide receiver Donte Stallworth

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NFL Videos: Stallworth 51-yard reception

I remember this play and thinking "why can't Ocho do that for us?"

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BradyFTW! said:

So much for paying your debt to society. If you've ever driven drunk in your life, then you're a pretty massive hypocrite.

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Drinking and driving is against the law. No I havent done it, shame on you that have. But more on point is the fact that Stallworth killed someone(alot more serious that DUI!) and used his money and fame and influence to do almost zero jail time. Maybe technically he "paid his dues" to society(I will argue marginally at best), but since when do the Patriots sign a guy with this kind of baggage? This isnt a arguement with your girlfriend, smoking a little pot or nudging a cop with your car. This job is in the public spotlight representing the Krafts, the Patriots and all of New England. We didnt want Pacman Jones did we? I didnt say he couldnt play in the league, the Raiders always took guys like that. And for those of you proud to finish in 2nd place last year.....its a losers mentality.

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jeffbiologist said:

Drinking and driving is against the law. No I havent done it, shame on you that have. But more on point is the fact that Stallworth killed someone(alot more serious that DUI!) and used his money and fame and influence to do almost zero jail time. Maybe technically he "paid his dues" to society(I will argue marginally at best), but since when do the Patriots sign a guy with this kind of baggage? This isnt a arguement with your girlfriend, smoking a little pot or nudging a cop with your car. This job is in the public spotlight representing the Krafts, the Patriots and all of New England. We didnt want Pacman Jones did we? I didnt say he couldnt play in the league, the Raiders always took guys like that. And for those of you proud to finish in 2nd place last year.....its a losers mentality.

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In the end, this is more of a failure on the justice system to weigh out appropriate sentencing due to a plea agreement (how often has that been the case...). Let us also not forget that the bereaved family could have refused a financial settlement.

Having said that, I can understand your position but Stallworth should be given a second chance even in light of the justice systems failings...

-Jamman

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I just realized I'M a PORK....but in my case, it's more like Pork3,333,333,333...although I have dropped a few ounces lately





-JoeKerr

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Joker said:

I just realized I'M a PORK....but in my case, it's more like Pork3,333,333,333...although I have dropped a few ounces lately





-JoeKerr

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Marry me.

-Jamman

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patfanken said:

The state of the WR situation is far from settled. FAR, FAR. FAR.

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Not really. Brandon Lloyd and Wes Welker are more or less locks to qualify for the 53 man roster. Julian Edelman is the New England Patriots primary punt returner and backup slot receiver to Wes Welker.

patfanken said:

The signings of Stallworth and Gonsales are all about depth and competition. The Pats will keep 8 receivers this season 3 TE's 5 WR's (plus Slater) - Welker, Lloyd, Gronk, and Hernandez are locks - So is the 3rd TE - After that its nothing more than a "Texas Death Match" for the 3 remaining spots - Today that list includes Edelman, Gonsales, Stallworth, Ocho, and Underwood. 30 days from now, perhaps Branch is added to the mix. That's 6 guys for 3 slots.

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Stallworth, Gonzalez, Branch will compete for two roster spots at the wide receiver position. Underwood and Davis are nothing more than training camp fodder. Ochostinko should receive his walking papers to free up salary cap space.

patfanken said:

So when you think on it, its really only a 50-50 chance of ANY of them being on the September Roster. Add a WR pick in the first 3 rounds and that percentage goes DOWN.

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Add a wide receiver in the 2012 NFL draft and a rookie wide receiver will most likely rot on the bench, unless the rookie wide receiver becomes the New England Patriots primary kick returner. Speaking of which, the New England Patriots cut Brandon Tate in lieu of Chad Ochostinko during the 2011 calendar year. When the injuries piled up at the center position, the New England Patriots cut Taylor Price in lieu of Chad Ochostinko to activate Nick McDonald.

patfanken said:

Good players are going to get cut. A lot of them.

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I beg to differ. Ochostinko, Underwood, Davis could be cut today and no one will miss them. Does Anthony Gonzalez really have anything left to offer at the wide receiver position?

patfanken said:

But in the end this could end up being the deepest and most skill diverse receiver group we've ever had.

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At end of the day, the five most likely wide receivers, barring injury of course, on the 53 man roster are denoted below:

Welker
Lloyd
Stallworth
Branch
Edelman

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jeffbiologist said:

Drinking and driving is against the law. No I havent done it, shame on you that have. But more on point is the fact that Stallworth killed someone(alot more serious that DUI!) and used his money and fame and influence to do almost zero jail time. Maybe technically he "paid his dues" to society(I will argue marginally at best), but since when do the Patriots sign a guy with this kind of baggage? This isnt a arguement with your girlfriend, smoking a little pot or nudging a cop with your car. This job is in the public spotlight representing the Krafts, the Patriots and all of New England. We didnt want Pacman Jones did we? I didnt say he couldnt play in the league, the Raiders always took guys like that. And for those of you proud to finish in 2nd place last year.....its a losers mentality.

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Stallworth: 'Be cognizant of your decisions' - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
Read it, learn what happened, and stop posting this garbage.

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jeffbiologist said:

Drinking and driving is against the law. No I havent done it, shame on you that have. But more on point is the fact that Stallworth killed someone(alot more serious that DUI!) and used his money and fame and influence to do almost zero jail time. Maybe technically he "paid his dues" to society(I will argue marginally at best), but since when do the Patriots sign a guy with this kind of baggage? This isnt a arguement with your girlfriend, smoking a little pot or nudging a cop with your car. This job is in the public spotlight representing the Krafts, the Patriots and all of New England. We didnt want Pacman Jones did we? I didnt say he couldnt play in the league, the Raiders always took guys like that. And for those of you proud to finish in 2nd place last year.....its a losers mentality.

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I guess that makes Mr. Kraft a loser as well since he publicly stated how proud he was of this team. Enough of your nonsense.

EDIT: BTW using Bob Kraft's recently deceased wife to make your point(post #144) was pretty low Mr. High and Mighty!

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jeffbiologist said:

Drinking and driving is against the law. No I havent done it, shame on you that have.

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You've never went out and had a beer after work and shot the breeze for an hour with you're buddies or co-workers? Not once in your life? I'm a little sceptical.

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patsinthesnow said:

He killed a guy DUI.

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He did. But Stallworth stayed at the scene of the crime. He cooperated with the police, was sincerely remorseful, paid compensation and did time for his act. There, but for the grace of God, go any of us who have had a drink and gotten behind the wheel of an automobile.

We can abhor the act but appreciate the man for doing what was right in a tragic situation.

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ATippett56 said:

Not really. Brandon Lloyd and Wes Welker are more or less locks to qualify for the 53 man roster. Julian Edelman is the New England Patriots primary punt returner and backup slot receiver to Wes Welker.

Stallworth, Gonzalez, Branch will compete for two roster spots at the wide receiver position. Underwood and Davis are nothing more than training camp fodder. Ochostinko should receive his walking papers to free up salary cap space.

Add a wide receiver in the 2012 NFL draft and a rookie wide receiver will most likely rot on the bench, unless the rookie wide receiver becomes the New England Patriots primary kick returner. Speaking of which, the New England Patriots cut Brandon Tate in lieu of Chad Ochostinko during the 2011 calendar year. When the injuries piled up at the center position, the New England Patriots cut Taylor Price in lieu of Chad Ochostinko to activate Nick McDonald.

I beg to differ. Ochostinko, Underwood, Davis could be cut today and no one will miss them. Does Anthony Gonzalez really have anything left to offer at the wide receiver position?

At end of the day, the five most likely wide receivers, barring injury of course, on the 53 man roster are denoted below:

Welker
Lloyd
Stallworth
Branch
Edelman

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I agree w/ most of the post, but there's gotta be room for a rookie (a good rookie, for once)
in that group. If he can save a roster spot by also being the KOR, then that would be a bonus.

I would also like to have a rookie WR with size & field-stretching speed. If that means carrying
2 rookies on the 53 - as long as one of them is also the KOR - then so be it.

Besides Welker & Lloyd, every other spot in the WR group is up for grabs. Stallworth & Branch
(if he's even re-signed) could suddenly lose it all; Gonzalez could tear an ACL stepping off the toilet;
and Edelman's still our best FS right now.

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All he has to so is be better than ocho...and he already had a better year than ocho last year

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http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/1043/donte-stallworth

3/19/2012: Signed a one-year, $875,000 contract. The deal included a $25,000 signing bonus. 2012: $825,000 (+ $25,000 workout bonus), 2013: Free Agent

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captain stone said:

and Edelman's still our best FS right now.

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Edelman will not see the field on defense during the 2012-13 NFL Season.

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ATippett56 said:

Donte' Stallworth - New England Patriots - 2012 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com

3/19/2012: Signed a one-year, $875,000 contract. The deal included a $25,000 signing bonus. 2012: $825,000 (+ $25,000 workout bonus), 2013: Free Agent

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so, its a pretty low risk signing...like i said earlier..he had 22 catches last year for 300yds, 3td's if he can equal that with the pats, I would be fine with that...its more than ocho gave last year

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RIpats88 said:

so, its a pretty low risk signing...like i said earlier..he had 22 catches last year for 300yds, 3td's if he can equal that with the pats, I would be fine with that...its more than ocho gave last year

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Low risk - High reward