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Oh please, why would they want to resign here isn 2 years? Brady could be gone, Welker is getting a lesson in the "Patriot Way" that I am sure is going to rub off on Gronk and Hernandez.
I expect Brady to be around for about another 4 years. People look too deep into this "window of opportunity". I think regardless of any major signings, the pats will be SB contenders as long as Brady is here. And when he's gone we are still going to want to win.
 
There may be more when today's transactions are all announced.

But after 23 hours of free agency, the patriots have signed four players (3 re-signs and 1 from another team).

BTW, how many have the other playoff teams signed?

but, but, we're nearing 24 hours into FA and we haven't even signed anybody! We're falling behind! We'll never win the East again, let alone get to a SB...
 
I expect Brady to be around for about another 4 years. People look too deep into this "window of opportunity". I think regardless of any major signings, the pats will be SB contenders as long as Brady is here. And when he's gone we are still going to want to win.

You may expect Brady to be around but that does not mean that BB does.

We do have a window of opportunity with Brady, he is not a Spring chicken anymore. If Peyton Manning to be released anyone can. BB has proven that loyalty for the Patriots is a one way street.
 
It is what it is.

BB certainly won't draft big time FAs because of one of our threads. But, it's the ritual of being able to get excited about your team going into the next season (which I understand). It's be interestign to see how well the Chand and Hanyseworth signings were. Still, he hit reasonably well on the aging vertern signings (Waters, Carter, Anderson) that didn't cause much excitement (though most of us thought the Waters signing was very fortunate).
 
I am sorry but when was the last time "Value" made a catch, picked off a pass or tackled a RB?


When 'high paid started' was injured and put on IR.



Amazing how people are blind to the FACT that we normally have one of the deepest rosters talent wise in the NFL and allows the team to be competitive whe injuries (inevitably) occur.

The NFL is a war of attrition.
 
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I don't have to thank him latter, I will thank him now. BB and his staff understand that they don't have to go after the high price free agents. They find players that fit their system and are cap friendly. Belichick pays big money to the right players (Brady, Wilfork, Mayo, Welker (one year, maybe more), Moss extension etc). Belichick has managed to rebuild his team without having a losing season. That is pretty impressive in the free agency era.
 
If he doesn't sign any of these "big name" FAs. In a couple years we will be able to offer Hernandez and Gronk (as well as others) contracts they won't have to walk away from. That is what may be most crucial to maintaining a great offense over the next 6-7 years rather than signing a V Jax or Mike Wallace right now. In the upcoming months they will make the necessary trades and acquire the necessary players through the draft to contend for another SB.

Screw that. I have a dirty little secret for you; once Brady is gone, we're not winning a Super Bowl anytime soon. Realistically, Brady has maybe three seasons left in him. If there ever was a time to go out and get a Wallace or a Jackson or a Williams it's this offseason. Carpe diem- seize the day. If it means being in salary cap hell in 2015 or 2016, then so be it.
 
Screw that. I have a dirty little secret for you; once Brady is gone, we're not winning a Super Bowl anytime soon. Realistically, Brady has maybe three seasons left in him. If there ever was a time to go out and get a Wallace or a Jackson or a Williams it's this offseason. Carpe diem- seize the day. If it means being in salary cap hell in 2015 or 2016, then so be it.

I don't think offense was the reason we didn't win the super bowl. If I was going to break the bank it would be loading up on defense.
 
I don't think offense was the reason we didn't win the super bowl. If I was going to break the bank it would be loading up on defense.

I would tend to disagree; the defense played good enough to win that game. Regardless, that wasn't my point. My point was is it's time to go out and win now; we're not winning in 2015 or 2016, so screw it and go out and pay for one of the big names out there like a Mario Williams or Mike Wallace. Adding either one of those names on either side of the ball would be HUGE and make us the odds on favorite to win next year.
 
Screw that. I have a dirty little secret for you; once Brady is gone, we're not winning a Super Bowl anytime soon. Realistically, Brady has maybe three seasons left in him. If there ever was a time to go out and get a Wallace or a Jackson or a Williams it's this offseason. Carpe diem- seize the day. If it means being in salary cap hell in 2015 or 2016, then so be it.




Great explaniation of why you will never be a GM.

BTW How do you know Mallett won't be say A Rogers, not the GOAT like Brady but an all pro?
 
Screw that. I have a dirty little secret for you; once Brady is gone, we're not winning a Super Bowl anytime soon. Realistically, Brady has maybe three seasons left in him. If there ever was a time to go out and get a Wallace or a Jackson or a Williams it's this offseason. Carpe diem- seize the day. If it means being in salary cap hell in 2015 or 2016, then so be it.

People have been saying this exact same thing for the past 5 years. If BB had listened to them we may or may not have won any additional Superbowls but we certainly wouldn't be less competitive now.
 
People have been saying this exact same thing for the past 5 years. If BB had listened to them we may or may not have won any additional Superbowls but we certainly wouldn't be less competitive now.

5 seasons ago Brady was 30; this season he's going to be 35. Want to guess how many 38 year old QBs have won Super Bowls? 1.
 
I am sorry but when was the last time "Value" made a catch, picked off a pass or tackled a RB?

When was the last time you decided to take a look at actual wins and losses over the past, say, 12 years?? Tell me which team has the best overall won loss record?


Tell me which team has won the most superbowls, AFC championships, division championships?

Now, please tell me what your complaint is all about??

You, sir, are clueless.
 
Screw that. I have a dirty little secret for you; once Brady is gone, we're not winning a Super Bowl anytime soon. Realistically, Brady has maybe three seasons left in him. If there ever was a time to go out and get a Wallace or a Jackson or a Williams it's this offseason. Carpe diem- seize the day. If it means being in salary cap hell in 2015 or 2016, then so be it.

So, you want to spend 10 or 12 million dollars for a WR that will be th 4th option, after Welker, Gronk & Hernandez.

Do we need a WR that will help out outside game (further freeing up the middle) - absolutley. I think if you can get Lloyd for 3 years 18MM, great. I also think we can try a couple of rookies or get a Gaffney type for far less than 10MM and get the job done.

Oh an dby the way, there will certainly be life after Brady - Superbowls will be won by the NE Patriots. I have no doubt.
 
I would tend to disagree; the defense played good enough to win that game. Regardless, that wasn't my point. My point was is it's time to go out and win now; we're not winning in 2015 or 2016, so screw it and go out and pay for one of the big names out there like a Mario Williams or Mike Wallace. Adding either one of those names on either side of the ball would be HUGE and make us the odds on favorite to win next year.


No the defense did NOT play well enough to win that game. If they had made the stop late in the 4th quarter, then I would agree with you. Same goes for 2007 and also VS the Colts in the 2nd half meltdown.
 
I think a lot of people are of the frame of mind that the Patriots are one big playmaker away from winning the Superbowl.

There does seem to be some difference of opinion as to whether that playmaker needs to be on offense (i.e., Mike Wallace) or defense (i.e., Mario Williams).

Either way, I think it is a legitimate viewpoint. Yes the Pats need to be mindful of the cap and they have their own guys to take care of this year and down the road. But if adding just one more high impact guy could get you over the hump to being a Superbowl champion again, you do that, right?

So I think the Chicken Littles are overreacting a little by saying that the sky is falling just because the Pats didn't hand out wads of money on the first day of free agency. But I also think the opposite end of the spectrum--the people who are saying that the Pats don't need to do anything substantial in free agency--may also be wrong. There's a time to be bold and perhaps this is that time.
 
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I think a lot of people are of the frame of mind that the Patriots are one big playmaker away from winning the Superbowl.

There does seem to be some difference of opinion as to whether that playmaker needs to be on offense (i.e., Mike Wallace) or defense (i.e., Mario Williams).

Either way, I think it is a legitimate viewpoint. Yes the Pats need to be mindful of the cap and they have their own guys to take care of this year and down the road. But if adding just one more high impact guy could get you over the hump to being a Superbowl champion again, you do that, right?

So I think the Chicken Littles are overreacting a little by saying that the sky is falling just because the Pats didn't hand out wads of money on the first day of free agency. But I also think the opposite end of the spectrum--the people who are saying that the Pats don't need to do anything substantial in free agency--may also be wrong. There's a time to be bold and perhaps this is that time.

I disagree with this thinking (the one player away).
Teams change every year. Strengths and weaknesses can change even with very little turnover.
Gettng the best 53 players on the roster is still a better approach that getting one guy to handle one job that you were weak at last year, and hoping you don't digress elsewhere.

Thinking that adding one pass rushers to the defense means everything is the same and the QB has less time to throw, so the team is better, ignores that our of 25 or so players on the defensive roster as many as half of them will be turned over.

At one point early in the BB years, and I think it was 2000, there was a line of questioning from reporters about replacing the pieces that were here in 1996. And BBs response basically was that you never chase and old roster when building a new roster, because the pieces will never fit together the same way.

I have no problem that Bills fans come here on March 14th pounding their chest about how they think they are going to have 2 good new players and pretending that 2 players translate to wins and losses. Apparently they aren't even getting them, but if they had those 2 result in a weakening of the other 51.
Too many fans (and media) are only interested in a cursory analysis of a team, and end up basing their opinion of the quality of a team on the 5 most well known players on the roster. That is why EVERY season the media annoints a new king of the hill based on FA signings, and every single year they turn out wrong.
 
No the defense did NOT play well enough to win that game. If they had made the stop late in the 4th quarter, then I would agree with you. Same goes for 2007 and also VS the Colts in the 2nd half meltdown.

The correct statement should be
The defense played well enough to win A game, and the defense did not play well enough to win THAT game.
 
5 seasons ago Brady was 30; this season he's going to be 35. Want to guess how many 38 year old QBs have won Super Bowls? 1.
How many 9-7 teams had won the Superbowl before this season?
 
Screw that. I have a dirty little secret for you; once Brady is gone, we're not winning a Super Bowl anytime soon. Realistically, Brady has maybe three seasons left in him. If there ever was a time to go out and get a Wallace or a Jackson or a Williams it's this offseason. Carpe diem- seize the day. If it means being in salary cap hell in 2015 or 2016, then so be it.
I want to win in 2015 and 2016 and on and on too.
No one else will have Brady so why wouldn't we be able to build a SB winning team then too? Other teams win without Brady. In fact once Brady is gone, we are going to need all the cap room we can get to plug holes he was good enough to obscure.
 
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