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Can't this just be a fun, positive, light hearted thread? Why do people feel the need to come in an ruin the fun.



PATS 19-0 is without question.
 
I really like our chances next year but it took so many things to fall into place for us to go 18-0 in 0-7 a lot of balls bounced our way. You have to be not just good but lucky as well. That said I definitely like our chances in the AFC next year and maybe we'll get a super bowl opponent who we match up well against.
 
Ever since 2007 I always root for the Pats to lose a game early on to get it out of the way. I don't ever want to go through that 2007 BS ever again. Don't get me wrong,I'd love the Pats to go undefeated. But the possibilty of them going undefeated in the regular season & losing in the playoffs makes me suicidal. The SB loss this year has nothing on the 2007 loss. What don't kill you can only make you stronger. Hopefully in NE's case this makes them stronger.The Pats will win their 4th SB very soon. They're so close.

Totally agree. All the undefeated talk messed up the Packers this year too.

It's hard enough to win a Superbowl without the added pressure of playing for perfection.

Going undefeated is nothing compared to Brady's fourth ring.
 
History shows that a team that loses the SB dosen't fair very well the next year.

History shows us that teams that are 18-0 going into the Superbowl win 50% of the time. I'll take those odds any day.
 
I'm pretty sure this board could not handle a 9-7 regular season.

I don't know if it could handle it, but I do know I couldn't handle reading it.
 
Brady and the rest of the pats have got to be pissed with the end of this season.

Brady's going to be like Rocky this offseason. Same with Wes. And everyone else who could have done better.

Grank and Hernandez should be moving into their prime. We've got good cap and draft prospects. At the end of the season we saw some sparks of play making in Moore and Spikes.

We've got McDaniels back, who did brilliant things in 2007. He's hungry for revenge from the end of that season too.

Nothing like a little defeat and a little mockery to stoke the fires.

2012 will be a historical year for BB + TB.

A big middle finger to the rest of the league.

Eh, what did they do after SB42? Im sure they were a little upset with that. Especially Strahan getting on stage and perminately stomping the pats out.
 
Eh, what did they do after SB42? Im sure they were a little upset with that. Especially Strahan getting on stage and perminately stomping the pats out.

Brady got injured for the year and Matt Cassell became the highest paid backup QB in history by the Chiefs
 
Come on you buncha millies with these 12-4, low expectations crap. You want the best, you need to have the balls to ask for it.

Let me share a little secret with you.

Does anyone here have any idea why the Red Sox finally won the World Series in 2004?

2 Reasons.

1. The Pats won in 2001. This made the most negative sports town in the world believe that holy crap it was possible to be happy and win. It was like a revelation for most people.

2. The Sox went down 3-0 against the Yankees and everyone gave up and stopped thinking negative thoughts because they assumed it was already over. Another words, all the aholes who believe the sky is falling took their black cloud somewhere else for a day. And lo and behold, the Sox turned it around. These jonah's were in such a shock that the team beat the Yankees and Cardinals before they could drag their black cloud back over.

Sadly these negative nancies are back now and the Patriots are their victim of choice. I saw it when I read posts about how people feared the Giants in the Super Bowl. Are you kidding me, you feared a 9-7 team that gave up more points than they scored this year? The Patriots should have wiped the floor with them. Instead the boogey man made yet another appearance and surprise surprise we had a self fulfilling prophecy of failure.

The only curse that ever existed in Boston was the negative people surrounding the sports team. If they can stop crapping their pants for five minutes maybe this team can show you something you've never seen before.

Believe *****es! Your reality is what you make of it.
 
Brady's going to be like Rocky this offseason.

2006: Loses AFC Championship to Manning despite 21-3 lead.
2007: 18-1, the worst loss in sports-history, period.
2008: Suffers season-ending injury in first game
2009: Blown out at home by trash-talking Ravens
2010: Embarrassed at home by trash-talking Jets
2011: Defeated by Ravens again

I can't buy into the "Brady's pissed and wants revenge" theory anymore. The guy's season has ended in the most gut wrenching fashion every year since 2006. (Can make an argument for 2005 as well, though I don't feel it's as bad as any of the above)
 
2006: Loses AFC Championship to Manning despite 21-3 lead.
2007: 18-1, the worst loss in sports-history, period.
2008: Suffers season-ending injury in first game
2009: Blown out at home by trash-talking Ravens
2010: Embarrassed at home by trash-talking Jets
2011: Defeated by Ravens again

I can't buy into the "Brady's pissed and wants revenge" theory anymore. The guy's season has ended in the most gut wrenching fashion every year since 2006. (Can make an argument for 2005 as well, though I don't feel it's as bad as any of the above)

It's more Belichick than Brady. He holds the keys to the store.

"Give me one more platinum plaque and f rap, you can have it back"
 
As long as we dont Play the giants in the Superbowl, id love to see this.
 
Brady and the rest of the pats have got to be pissed with the end of this season.

Brady's going to be like Rocky this offseason. Same with Wes. And everyone else who could have done better.

Grank and Hernandez should be moving into their prime. We've got good cap and draft prospects. At the end of the season we saw some sparks of play making in Moore and Spikes.

We've got McDaniels back, who did brilliant things in 2007. He's hungry for revenge from the end of that season too.

Nothing like a little defeat and a little mockery to stoke the fires.

2012 will be a historical year for BB + TB.

A big middle finger to the rest of the league.

No way. Anyone who thinks they will go 16-0 again is kidding themselves. It is a once in a lifetime shot.
 
Some posters are really smoking some really good stuff these days.
 
History shows us that teams that are 18-0 going into the Superbowl win 50% of the time. I'll take those odds any day.

Not to quibble, but history shows us that teams that are 18-0 going into the super bowl lose 100% of the time. Teams that are undefeated going into the super bowl win 50% of the time.
 
History shows that a team that loses the SB dosen't fair very well the next year.

Okay before I flame - the whole post is just irony, right? You don't really think this crap, you're adopting a persona to laugh at ridiculous people, right? If not...

First of all, it's fare very well. Sorry, nails-on-the-chalkboard thing. Spelling nazis are irritating, I know, and sometimes I am one... but it's only because stuff like this, when coupled with content that makes me gag, gets even more irritating to my point of view. Also: 72 Dolphins do come to mind. Also too, to quote the recent half-governor of Alaska, teams that do win the super bowl don't seem to fare too well. Do it back-to-back, and it's close to a "dynasty." Cope. Every season is a new team. History is yesterday. Every Pats team makes it on its own or doesn't.

If Belichick dosen't use those first 4 draft picks on defense players from Alabama and LSU. I might take the year off from them anyway.

Here's where I become incredibly irritated at the "fan" base.

I mean, in what sense are you a fan of the Patriots? I don't need everybody to be face-painting and crying at every missed tackle and orgasming with every touchdown to say you're a fan.... To me, though, the minimum qualifier is that you can't "take a year off."

What I mean is, the damn team matters to you like it or not year in, year out, 1-15 seasons included. Have you even been around for those?

I get similarly worked up when people say they "use to be" a ____ fan, but "now they're a _______ fan." I couldn't "adopt" a new team; it's not in my makeup. That's just how I am and how I feel. Football = Patriots. And in the autumn/winter months, at least, football is a big part of life.

To say "I might take the year off the Pats," if you are a fan, sounds sort of like "I might take a year off from brushing my teeth."

I won't even go into your ransom demands in the draft which the Pats must meet to secure your treasured affections. I'm pretty sure they have guys paid to make those picks, and I'm pretty sure they're paid for a reason. Call me crazy, but my guess is they're better at it than you.

We will never win a SB so long as we continue to be the New England Colts.

Yeah, last SB we gave up 21 points, 6 of them on purpose.

Really?

And I don't want to hear about how few points we gave up.

Of course not. That's because you're what we like to call "wrong."

All you have to do look at is the time of possesion. You can't score if you don't have the ball.

Much better to have the ball longer. Closest thing to sense you've made. The Pats allow few points, but lots of yards. If you can't have everything, far better to allow "yards" and "minutes" than points. I'm pretty sure I've never seen a final score in yards or minutes.

Giants defense and special teams beat us along with a few clutch plays on offense. NY beat us the same way we use to beat the Colts and now we have become the Colts.

Vince Wilfork says hi.

We come to the point in the playoffs where all the offensive plays must be clutch and not just a few.
We had an easy road to the Ship.With a relativley easy opponent.That won't happen again soon. The real defense won out again against the duct tape bailing wire defense. Until we have a real defense I forsee a lot of 14-2 pain in the future.Or to stay in theme with the thread 18-1 pain.

Yeahhhhh, the Pats' defensive/draft philosophy is just not up to your analytical standards. The pass rush which came back from the dead this year (and got to Manning more then the Gintz got to Brady) is not up to your standards -- or maybe it is, even though that was what the brilliant day-after-analysts seized on in 08. The secondary is horrible, keeping it all in front of them is idiotic, letting them get yards and not points is no way to play football. In summation, the Pats should allow zero yards, have 60 minutes of possession in every game, intercept every pass thrown, stuff every run, catch every pass, own every record, go 19-0 every year, and never, ever lose a super bowl.

After all, isn't that sort of the trajectory you assumed when you became a "fan" in 2001 or 2003 or whatever?

If you don't see the building blocks falling into place and maturing throughout this defense you're blind. Mayo's been self-evidently valuable for years. Ninko emerged this year, although I am sure you are upset that some other team has a pro-bowl top-flight talent at his position. Big Vince went from "Yeah he's pretty good he plugs those gaps" to an aggressive, pocket-crushing force at the same time. Andre Carter and Mark Anderson played inspired ball their first year in Pats colors. Even the maligned secondary came up with big plays when it counted (see Moore, S.)

So if you want to pat yourself on the back about what a great substitute you'd make for the brain trust of a team that hasn't won fewer than 10 games since 2002, freaking knock yourself out.

But this "I'm taking a year off if they don't draft _____" bullsh1t?

Don't bother trying to convince me or anyone else with half a brain you're a "fan."

I live in the DC area where people are nuts for every new season, and they're so far from anything resembling success that it takes the light from success 20 years to hit them. Just like us Pats fans were, before 2001.

If you can turn that off and on based on who agrees with you in Foxboro, hey I don't control the board, but you look like you're in the wrong place, given the name of the site.

But that's just me.
 
I don't trust the pre-season strength of schedule stuff. Too much changes every year. We were supposed to have a cupcake schedule this year, but we ended up with half our games against playoff teams. Go figure.

That said if the AFC East struggles again next year, then obviously the Pats' biggest advantage will be their schedule and a potential inside track to HFA.

I'm guessing the AFC will be a bit tougher at the top next year, if for no other reason that Houston and Pitt are unlikely to suffer the same degree of injuries they did in '11. But again if the AFC East struggles you'll have less obstacles to home field than some of the other contenders, which could be huge.

I actually think next year should be pretty wide open. Like this year, there will be several teams at the top that are good enough to win it all, but with significant flaws. The SB matchup should be great almost regardless from a QB standpoint, as you can mix and match several teams with SB-winning QBs (GB, NYG, NO, NE, Pitt) and end up with an intriguing matchup no matter what the combination.
 
A few things to note from various prior comments.


1. Why the focus on time of possession, unless one is reaching a conclusion and then seeking a stat to support it? I thought TOP was proven to be a useless statistic many years ago. How many times each and every week do we see a team with the greater TOP lose?

The Giants ran 71 plays and the Pats ran 62 plays: a difference of nine offensive plays. Coincidentally (or maybe not) that just so happened to be the difference in number of plays between the Giants 2nd possession (10), and the number of plays in the immediate preceding possession by the Pats (1).

2. The alleged imbalance of running and passing plays. Thanks to rule changes, the days of running the ball as often as you pass it are long gone. The league average is 57% pass plays and 43% running plays; actually it's more imbalanced than that because that doesn't take into account dropbacks where the quarterback scrambles for positive yardage that go on the books as running plays. In the Pats-Ravens game the Pats' ratio was ... yep, 57% pass plays and 43% running plays. As for the Giants game if you will recall the Pats completed 16 consecutive passes. With Gronkowski injured it appeared that the Giants made a concerted effort to stop the run, figuring that the Pats would try to run the ball. If either of a couple of very makable passes are completed in the 4th quarter nobody is having this discussion today.

3. The AFC East is continued to be portrayed as a weak division, but the numbers don't back that up. Last year the AFCE collectively won more games than they lost, winning 33 games. Of the NFL's eight divisions only two won more: the NFC North (36) and AFC North (35). The mighty NFC East actually lost more games than they won. And while we're at it, commentators that keep saying 'the NFC is clearly superior' are off base as well. Last year the NFC collectively won 129 games; the AFC won 127. The AFC wins just one more inter-conference game somewhere over the course of the season and it's a dead heat; how exactly is that 'clearly superior'?

4. Historically an undefeated regular season happens about once every 30 or more years, and a perfect season including the playoffs has only happened once. Just stop this annual nonsense about going undefeated, it's ridiculous; you probably have a better chance of winning this week's powerball jackpot.
 
Yeah, last SB we gave up 21 points, 6 of them on purpose.

This is a strawman point. The D was trying to give up no points, to force a 3 and out. Let's not make it sound like the Patriots were willing to give up 6 points.
 
History also SHOWED us that a 9-7 team cant win a superbowl.


history dont know nothing.
 
2008: No playoffs (barely)
2009: Blowout loss in the wild card round
2010: Narrow loss in the divisional round
2011: Last minute loss in the Super Bowl
2012: Super Bowl winners????????

Even thought the Pats have come up emptyhanded (in which shouldn't have been in the last super bowl), they are getting better. Next season is the season. I could feel it. The AFC is not what it used to be in the past few seasons. The NFC is so competitive, they have won 4 of the last 5 super bowls. The Patriots are the only ones (also the Texans, maybe) who can put an end to the NFC dominance. And with the 4 picks in the first two rounds, who knows what Belichick and the management will do with those picks? I say they do a little gamble and get some great defensive talent with those picks and hopefully, Brandon Lloyd will join Josh McD in NE. An outside threat will make this offense so unstoppable. They already have the best underneath attack in the NFL, and adding a guy that can beat man coverage and draw the safeties back can help us in the running game and even open more lanes underneath for Welker, Branch (if we resign him as the 3rd WR) and the tight ends.
 
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