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Was the 2011/12 Pats' season a success?


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The Colts had no real opportunities for success. Their season was doomed early on.

The Patriots had tangible real opportunities that were squandered. I realize that we all need to salvage something positive out of this emotional investment. That is human nature. Whether or not this is a success ultimately depends on where the team goes from here, as the '04 Red Sox taught us. If the team ascends to a Championship having been steeled by this defeat, then it will have been a success. If the team falters again then this season will have been a failure.

Judged on it's own merit, the '11 Patriots wasted the high seed and easy path afforded to them by the NFL schedule and fate, a confluence of events that does not often occur. Then they rewarded this good fortune by repeatedly shooting themselves in the foot throughout a closely contested game, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory time and time again. In the end, they got exactly what they deserved, a silent trip back to Foxborough.

My guess is that there will have to be a major turnover to complete the journey to a SB win. This is for a reason which I hesitate to even type, because I can hardly believe that I'm saying this. I don't mean to be a downer, but I don't believe in Tom Brady anymore. I just don't think he has it anymore, from a "fire in the belly" standpoint.

He comports himself in all of the requisite ways, playing the part as he always has. I just saw the look in his eyes during the fourth quarter on Sunday, and I didn't see determination. I saw something else...pain from his shoulder perhaps. It looked like he just wanted it to end, rather than wanting the moment. He has nothing to gain. He will always be "Tom Brady, 3-Time SB Champion, 2 time MVP, sure-fire HOFer, etc.". The thought of him at 35 surviving uninjured through another rigorous 18 NFL contests just to get back to that point is unrealistic. The Championship TB12 we all know and love is on the wane. And, like I said in another post, I hope that I am wrong...sorry to be the turd in the punchbowl.


I disagree. By all accounts he took this loss very hard. There is no other QB in the league I would rather have than Brady. I do think as he gets towards the end of his career we will need a better running game. I hope BB and McDaniels commit to the running game next season and take some pressure off Brady.
 
They finished their season 13-3. That's a success in anyone's book.

Their post-season was a failure.
 
The way our defense played during the regular season, I really doubted we would even make it to the big game. Us getting there to me made this a successful season. We lost but to battle the way our team battled all year made this a success for me and should for everyone. We can't win every single game guys, but our team made every single Sunday relevant for us for the last 5 months.

It was a hell of a season.
 
Its a parody driven league with a single elimination tournament. The vast majority of these playoff games are coming down to 3 or 4 plays. The win the Super Bowl or bust attitude of the 90s Cowboys/49ers is no longer relevant. Making the playoffs most years is a fantastic achievement and really all that can be controlled.
 
Its a parody driven league with a single elimination tournament. The vast majority of these playoff games are coming down to 3 or 4 plays. The win the Super Bowl or bust attitude of the 90s Cowboys/49ers is no longer relevant. Making the playoffs most years is a fantastic achievement and really all that can be controlled.

Parity = the idea that every team has a chance to win every single season
Parody = the idea that the JEST are a real football team
 
I honestly didn't envision them getting as far as the AFC championship..so to me,definitely a success.
 
They were the best team in the AFC.

They were a "TEAM" and should be proud of what they accomplished together.

They made it to the superbowl.

There's only 1 thing they could have done better. They did enough to win the game, but could not overcome some bad luck. One of those fumbles bounces a different way and were talking a different game/score. Gronk plays and its very different. Granted, they could have overcome the luck with better play, but I like this group of players.

National media is hating on them and they aren't going away.

Win or lose it's the team I cheer for.
 
Their post-season was a failure.

No, the Patriots 2012 post-season was not a failure. They went 2-1, reminded the upstart Broncos and any other pretender what team was the best in the AFC, went toe-to-toe with the Ravens who blinked and took the NFC champion to the last tick of the clock in the Super Bowl.

The 15-1 Packers failing to show up and getting smoked at home by the Giants was the big failure of the 2012 playoffs, not the Patriots near-miss in Super Bowl 46.

The losses in 2011 and 2010 were 0-1 failures in the post-season. Belichick got that monkey off his back in dramatic fashion by stomping the Broncos and gaining a small measure of revenge against the Ravens.

Mr. Kraft got it right in his press conference upon their return. We should all be proud of this team.
 
Yes, its a success. not the success we were excpeting but relativly to the other 30 teams i think we did very good, and the way to a complete success with a SB win was by an inch (if welker didnt drop that pass we 100% winning the SB). to be honest i didnt expect us to reach the SB in the after 10-11 weeks.
 
He comports himself in all of the requisite ways, playing the part as he always has. I just saw the look in his eyes during the fourth quarter on Sunday, and I didn't see determination. I saw something else...pain from his shoulder perhaps. It looked like he just wanted it to end, rather than wanting the moment. He has nothing to gain. He will always be "Tom Brady, 3-Time SB Champion, 2 time MVP, sure-fire HOFer, etc.". The thought of him at 35 surviving uninjured through another rigorous 18 NFL contests just to get back to that point is unrealistic. The Championship TB12 we all know and love is on the wane. And, like I said in another post, I hope that I am wrong...sorry to be the turd in the punchbowl.

Lordy, you not only are one terrible writer, you have terrible perspective. Now, please comport yourself with requisite haste and make yourself scarce (i.e., vamoose you ingrate!).
 
I thought I'd share some interesting perspective from a high school coach who received a letter of encouragement from Marv Levy (ex-Bills head coach who lost four consecutive Super Bowls).

Link: Dealing with the crushing defeat - Bob Seggerson - varsity.limaohio.com

Levy’s message to me was we make too much out of winning and losing and the real reward was in the journey not the destination. Coach Levy was a scholar. He earned a masters degree in English Literature from Harvard before entering the coaching profession.

Coach Levy quoted from a Rudyard Kipling poem, “triumph and disaster are both imposters.”

That line, from the poem “If,” hit home for me. It reminded me we don’t live life riding on the crest of success, or wallowing in the misery that can accompany defeat. We live life in the middle, the every day. It does not mean we shouldn’t strive for the very best in everything we attempt, but that we shouldn’t become over-inflated when we reach the top, or diminished by the losses that are inevitable. An athlete or coach caught on the extremes is bound for disappointment. Life can change in an instant.

By the way, for a man who was not an athlete, Kipling’s poem “If,” published in 1896, comes as close to describing the athletic experience as anything I have read. I recommend it for any young athlete or coach. In fact, I’ll make it an assignment for you young jocks, male and female, although you girls will have to change the gender in the poem. Google the poem, read it, copy it, and then place it where you will see it often. The older you get, the more it will mean to you.

Here is the poem:

IF ...


IF you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:

If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: 'Hold on!'

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
' Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch,
if neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!
 
nice Tunes but..I prefer Judge Smails.........

It's easy to grin / When your ship comes in / And you've got the stock market beat. / But the man worthwhile, / Is the man who can smile, / When his shorts are too tight in the seat.

judge_smails.jpg
 
The New England Patriots 2011-2012 season was definitely a success since they exceeded my personal expectations.

Looking forward to a prosperous unrestricted free agency period and an intriguing NFL Draft (with plenty of defensive players selected).

With the NFL lockout resolved, business is back to usual.
 
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