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Can somebody confirm that Michael Hayes, senior halfback out of Houston, is draft eligible?

My Phil Steele college preview said he's a senior. Juco player who played last year 2010 as a junior and a senior in 2011. Houston roster on Rivals has him a senior too.

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Okay, I know the Super Bowl is Sunday, and we need to exact revenge on the GMen...but I'm a total draft nut. I'm always trying to figure out how to improve the team, and our defense needs it (so Edelman doesn't have to cover Cruz or Manningham EVER again) so I stumbled upon this interesting mock draft:

sportsmasher dot com (mock draft link on top right)

This guy (who has the Giants winning it all by the way)

Has us picking:

Cornerback Alphono Dennard (Nebraska) and Linebacker Vontaze Burfict (Arizona State) in the first.

I know we'll probably trade out of this pick, but what do you guys think?:rocker:
 
Okay, I know the Super Bowl is Sunday, and we need to exact revenge on the GMen...but I'm a total draft nut. I'm always trying to figure out how to improve the team, and our defense needs it (so Edelman doesn't have to cover Cruz or Manningham EVER again) so I stumbled upon this interesting mock draft:

sportsmasher dot com (mock draft link on top right)

This guy (who has the Giants winning it all by the way)

Has us picking:

Cornerback Alphono Dennard (Nebraska) and Linebacker Vontaze Burfict (Arizona State) in the first.

I know we'll probably trade out of this pick, but what do you guys think?:rocker:

Dennard's stock is dropping.. He'll probably be around, but I'm not sure he's what the pats are looking for.

I think that Burfict would be an ILB for the Pats, not an OLB... So he doesn't really fill a need..
 
I think that Burfict would be an ILB for the Pats, not an OLB... So he doesn't really fill a need..


I like your practical approach to the question, pointing out his positional lack of fit and not his mental one. I would have responded that I don't think there's a more un-Belichickian player to have ever walked the earth.

Which of course means we'll pick him late second round as a value pick.
 
Dennard and Burfict gives us the two defenders with the most nastiness in the draft. I personally don't love either guy but Burfict's size and speed and production makes him a great gamble in the 2nd (cus all 2nd round picks are gambles). In the 1st I don't like Burfict.
 
I just checked it out and he's got tough choices at those picks. In his mock Ingram, Konz, and Cox were all on the board when he took Barron, and although I would be fine with Barron I would have to take Konz over him because I think it would give them the best OL in football for years to come. I really like Cox and ingram as well so it would be a great situation for the Patriots imo if all these choices really were there on draft day, although I think most will be gone.

Hightower has become my first choice among players that have a shot at being there at 27, although that could easily change and he may well be long gone, I think he's going to be a beast and would make that LB corps nasty and flexible, with Ninkovich, Fletcher and Anderson rounding it out as one of the best units in football.


The Patriots have needs but they also have the ability to meet them and make them strengths with the right choices, as much as I am looking forward to and focused on the SB I am also looking forward to this offseason and the moves they are going to make. This draft sets up well for them in that the depth appears to be there to give them good options at the end of the first round, the drop-off doesn't seem as steep as some other years from 15-32.

I can't begin to imagine what Dante Scarnecchia could do with a player like Konz. You give the guy someone with first round talent to teach and you get a stud just about every time. Although the team needs are elsewhere imo, I would not be unhappy with a Center of his caliber at all. You would have to be crazy not to like the pick.
 
Burfict seems un-Belichickian.

Anyway, new mock based on some constructive criticism.

1. Barron - complete safety also called all the signals for 3 years in top SEC defense

1b. Coby Fleener - TE

2a. Andre Branch - would be a good 3-4 OLB, although with Ninkovich, Cunningham (where did he go), Silvestro, Anderson, and possibly Carter, maybe there's not as much of a need here. Anderson is a FA I think. Carter may be also. Plus there's the other Carter on PS.

2b. Josh Norman - CB


3. Kheeston Randall 3-4 DE

4. Marvin McNutt WR - maybe not enough room with Ocho (fresh with a year to learn the playbook), Branch, Welker, Brandon Lloyd (hopefully get him)..he'd be the fifth WR. Not a lot of speed but always makes the catch in traffic.
 
Burfict seems un-Belichickian.

Anyway, new mock based on some constructive criticism.

1. Barron - complete safety also called all the signals for 3 years in top SEC defense

1b. Coby Fleener - TE

2a. Andre Branch - would be a good 3-4 OLB, although with Ninkovich, Cunningham (where did he go), Silvestro, Anderson, and possibly Carter, maybe there's not as much of a need here. Anderson is a FA I think. Carter may be also. Plus there's the other Carter on PS.

2b. Josh Norman - CB


3. Kheeston Randall 3-4 DE

4. Marvin McNutt WR - maybe not enough room with Ocho (fresh with a year to learn the playbook), Branch, Welker, Brandon Lloyd (hopefully get him)..he'd be the fifth WR. Not a lot of speed but always makes the catch in traffic.

Not bad, though I'd prefer taking an OL at some point; I'd be willing to give up on one of Branch or Randall to get him. And, of course, a lot of Pats fans would be apoplectic over the Fleener pick. :)
 
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Burfict seems un-Belichickian.

Anyway, new mock based on some constructive criticism.

1. Barron - complete safety also called all the signals for 3 years in top SEC defense

1b. Coby Fleener - TE

2a. Andre Branch - would be a good 3-4 OLB, although with Ninkovich, Cunningham (where did he go), Silvestro, Anderson, and possibly Carter, maybe there's not as much of a need here. Anderson is a FA I think. Carter may be also. Plus there's the other Carter on PS.

2b. Josh Norman - CB


3. Kheeston Randall 3-4 DE

4. Marvin McNutt WR - maybe not enough room with Ocho (fresh with a year to learn the playbook), Branch, Welker, Brandon Lloyd (hopefully get him)..he'd be the fifth WR. Not a lot of speed but always makes the catch in traffic.

I don't see Fleener as 1st round talent.

Deion Branch won't be back and it's unlikely that Ocho will be back either.

You are correct in that Anderson and Andre Carter are both FAs. Carter could retire. Particularly if something special happens on Sunday.

Anderson will probably be re-signed. Yes, the Pats have Markell Carter, Ninkovich and Cunningham, but time is running out on Cunningham.

I wasn't impressed with McNutt at the Senior Bowl, but I believe a lot of that has to do with the QBs who were throwing him the ball.

Many people who have followed Barron don't feel he's a complete safety. Maybe a complete STRONG Safety, but many have said he's weak against the Pass. The Pats have that in Chung (who has gotten better) and Ihedigbo (who has also gotten better, but is still 2 steps behind Chung). The Pats need someone who has the ability to cover and is willing in run support. More likely, they will either go with McCourty or Dowling there and add someone via free agency, unless they view a Stephon Gilmore or Trumaine Johnson as a good conversion candidate. George Iloka looked pretty good in the Senior Bowl, but, again, most of the DBs (except Donnie Fletcher who looked totally outclassed the entire game) looked good.
 
Brandon Replenishment Syndrome?? :confused: :eek:

So,an hour later after another SB loss,can somebody argue that we don't need talent upfront ? Patriots can't stop the run and they can't run when it matters.
 
So,an hour later after another SB loss,can somebody argue that we don't need talent upfront ? Patriots can't stop the run and they can't run when it matters.

In my eyes, after a generally good run in the playoffs, Kyle Love was ordinary today. Big Vince can't do it all on his own.

And as for not being able to run the ball, I don't think the O/line was the problem, the lack of a dynamic back is the problem there. Law-firm is great for what he is, but opposing teams don't have to respect him as an offensive threat because of his lack of speed.

And I know, with his big contract, that Mayo isn't replaceable, but did he even play today? Spikes is the premier linebacker in the middle right now.
 
And I know, with his big contract, that Mayo isn't replaceable, but did he even play today? Spikes is the premier linebacker in the middle right now.

Mayo forced a fumble.
 
Mayo forced a fumble.

Okay. But he's a first round player on a big contract, I'm not convinced his playmaking is consistent enough to match up. I'm not really hating on Mayo, he's a fine player, I just don't see him as a playmaker which this defense needs. But if Brandon Spikes steps into that role, which he's done throughout the playoffs, then it's not too much of a problem.
 
I think we all saw that the team lacks dynamic playmakers on both sides of the ball and that is what is needed. We need an overhaul of the WR position. Keep Welker and start fresh everywhere else. We need to see if Ridley/Vereen is a runningback combo that can make teams to start respecting the run so the offense can be more balanced. We need D-lineman who can create pressure and force double teams. We need a consistent playmaker at linebacker and we need corners that can track a ball and at least knock it down. Other than that, the patriots are good.
 
#27. Brandon Thompson DT
#32. Brandon Washington OL
That's two players ready to step in week 1.

Brandon Replenishment Syndrome?? :confused: :eek:

So,an hour later after another SB loss,can somebody argue that we don't need talent upfront ?

Patriots can't stop the run and they can't run when it matters.

C'MON, man!! Are you trying to sell ME on drafting Grizzlies?? :rofl:

I've been advocating for drafting Grizzlies since before I was BORN!! :D

Needless to say: I'd go with different guys, but I LOVE your Picks. :cool:
 
C'MON, man!! Are you trying to sell ME on drafting Grizzlies?? :rofl:

I've been advocating for drafting Grizzlies since before I was BORN!! :D

Needless to say: I'd go with different guys, but I LOVE your Picks. :cool:

I am more and more convinced that Fletcher Cox is the guy that we need on this defense. He can play DE next to Wilfork in the 3-4 and flip inside on passing downs and penetrate the way Love was unable to last night. He's got a monster frame and can block fg's the way Seymour used to.

if he falls to #27 and we can grab Stephon Gilmore at #31 I think that goes a long way towards making this D a lot more versatile.
 
And I know, with his big contract, that Mayo isn't replaceable, but did he even play today? Spikes is the premier linebacker in the middle right now.

From the official NFL stats
T-A SCK INT FF
J. Mayo 8-3 0.0 0 1
B. Spikes 8-3 0.0 0 1

They had the same stats mayo was all over the place.
 


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