Bring on the Ravens

RavensfanfromPA said:

LOL. Like I said believe what you want chief.

You're not scaring anyone with your threats.

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Dude, Deus is not a Mod. You can see who is pretty easily by looking to your left. Deus talking about a possible ban isn't a threat, it's a prediction based on years of observing this forum.

RavensfanfromPA said:

Like I said believe what you want to believe. I'm not going to talk you into believing otherwise.

Just can't wait until my team bounces the cheaters.

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Why is it that a lot of posters from PA are obnoxious? Even from our own fanbase. (Not everyone from PA mind you, but a good amount).

Found this gem from Ravens 24x7: Patriots Bill Billicheat's next hire an ex-Raven? just wonderin'..

Belichick is like the Boogie man for a lot of these people. LOL.

Deus Irae said:

Originally Posted by flynismo View Post
You guys are funny. I thought you'd learn your lesson about talking smack the last time we came into your house.






Also, the "last time we came into your house":

Patriots 23, Ravens 20

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Way to quote me on something on a completely different context.

When I said that, I was refering to the people who said they'd steamroll us in the playoffs in 2009.
In other words I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT YOU WOULD HAVE LEARNED YOUR LESSON ABOUT DISMISSING A TEAM SO EASILY.

I did NOT however say that in context of that being any sort of guarantees this week.

Nice try though. You should have been a reporter.

And as for the "last time in your house", as I clarified, I was refering to the playoff game. Which you conveniently forgot to mention as well.

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ive heard so much about Tom Brady this, Tom Brady that, but if you think about it....Tom Brady isnt the ones Catching the football he throws. he certainly doesnt make those spectacular catches for 50-60-70 yards. its the wide recievers. Brady just gets the credit for "putting the ball in the perfect spot for the WR. well hmmm if his WR's run the wrong routes, dont run deep enough, dont run fast enough to get "under the ball for the perfect catch then its incomplete passes and mistakes. brady just sees the guy and throws it up hoping he makes the catch. IF the reciever doesnt do something (run quick enough, adjust his body right exc. then the pass fall incomplete, or is picked off)

thats essentially what our defense has got to do. take away his recievers. we do that, its "tom brady doesnt look like himself out there, he looks flustered, he looks fustrated. when in reality his WRs arent catching the ball.

Game Plan? take away the WRs. then its just tom brady. a normal quaterback whose having an off day.

Edited by Raven07, Today, 12:24 PM.

Its posts like these that make me keep reading other teams message boards.

flynismo said:

Way to quote me on something on a completely different context.

When I said that, I was refering to the people who said they'd steamroll us in the playoffs in 2009.
In other words I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT YOU WOULD HAVE LEARNED YOUR LESSON ABOUT DISMISSING A TEAM SO EASILY.

I did NOT however say that in context of that being any sort of guarantees this week.

Nice try though. You should have been a reporter.

And as for the "last time in your house", as I clarified, I was refering to the playoff game. Which you conveniently forgot to mention as well.

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Wait... another one trying to play "context" games when context is not an issue?

Is there a Ravens troll playbook in use this week, or something?

mitsudriver said:

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ive heard so much about Tom Brady this, Tom Brady that, but if you think about it....Tom Brady isnt the ones Catching the football he throws. he certainly doesnt make those spectacular catches for 50-60-70 yards. its the wide recievers. Brady just gets the credit for "putting the ball in the perfect spot for the WR. well hmmm if his WR's run the wrong routes, dont run deep enough, dont run fast enough to get "under the ball for the perfect catch then its incomplete passes and mistakes. brady just sees the guy and throws it up hoping he makes the catch. IF the reciever doesnt do something (run quick enough, adjust his body right exc. then the pass fall incomplete, or is picked off)

thats essentially what our defense has got to do. take away his recievers. we do that, its "tom brady doesnt look like himself out there, he looks flustered, he looks fustrated. when in reality his WRs arent catching the ball.

Game Plan? take away the WRs. then its just tom brady. a normal quaterback whose having an off day.

Edited by Raven07, Today, 12:24 PM.

Its posts like these that make me keep reading other teams message boards.

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take away the WRs, we will just use our TEs

Deus Irae said:

Wait... another one trying to play "context" games when context is not an issue?

Is there a Ravens troll playbook in use this week, or something?

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That's what I thought. No real response. Just more of the usual..

flynismo said:

And as for the "last time in your house", as I clarified, I was refering to the playoff game. Which you conveniently forgot to mention as well.

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If you edit the original post to clarify it there is a better chance that someone will see it before they respond. Deus wasn't the only one who "forgot to mention it" (see: your OP).

Cant wait to shut up Suggs!

There are two games being referenced that will have no bearing on the reality that will be experienced in the Ravens VS the Patriots.

Ravens VS San Deigo

Patriots VS Broncos

I would suggest probably the games between the Ravens and the Patriots as a better indicator.

Which means boys and girls its gonna be whichever team Blinks first in the turnover, special teams and penalties battle.

I would be inclinded to say that in the intangible of 'desire' the Ravens probably have a slight edge.. last hurrah for a couple players on the Ravens and the main motivation for some of the veteran players signed (Evans, Boldin, Leach, Pollard)

There is an X-Factor element in terms of new personnel since the last matchup.. legitimate deep threat in the form of Evans and Torrey Smith.. it will play into Belicheck game planning adjustments from the last meeting..

If Suggs gets in Beast Mode (ala vs Steelers) it could be interesting.. Brady is not as mobile as Rothlisberger.. I suspect Pagano is going to dial up blitz mode, counter to the contain package that was implemented against TJ Yates. He would be crazy not to against Brady.

It's is going to be FUN for sure ! Enjoy.

flynismo said:

Way to quote me on something on a completely different context.

When I said that, I was refering to the people who said they'd steamroll us in the playoffs in 2009.
In other words I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT YOU WOULD HAVE LEARNED YOUR LESSON ABOUT DISMISSING A TEAM SO EASILY.

I did NOT however say that in context of that being any sort of guarantees this week.

Nice try though. You should have been a reporter.

And as for the "last time in your house", as I clarified, I was refering to the playoff game. Which you conveniently forgot to mention as well.

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Still here?

You said to me:

flynismo said:

If you say so. I know it sucks getting called on BS, so I understand why my reasoning appears piss poor to someone like you.

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So I said to you:

mgcolby said:

You have brought very little reasoning to any of your arguments. Everything you stated has been ra-ra fratboy BS. Name one thing I have posted in this thread that is not accurate in your opinion. Just one and then support that opinion with some facts and then we'll talk about being called on BS.

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Then went on to point out inaccurate things you have posted.

Still waiting to see where you call me on my BS?

Either man up admit you haven't called me out on ****. Find something I said that is not accurate. Or go back to that pathetic board of yours.

Overall you have looked like a fool that:

1. Does not understand x's and o's
2. Is ignorant of our team
3. Has been proven a hypocrite

mitsudriver said:

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Posted Today, 12:18 PM

ive heard so much about Tom Brady this, Tom Brady that, but if you think about it....Tom Brady isnt the ones Catching the football he throws. he certainly doesnt make those spectacular catches for 50-60-70 yards. its the wide recievers. Brady just gets the credit for "putting the ball in the perfect spot for the WR. well hmmm if his WR's run the wrong routes, dont run deep enough, dont run fast enough to get "under the ball for the perfect catch then its incomplete passes and mistakes. brady just sees the guy and throws it up hoping he makes the catch. IF the reciever doesnt do something (run quick enough, adjust his body right exc. then the pass fall incomplete, or is picked off)

thats essentially what our defense has got to do. take away his recievers. we do that, its "tom brady doesnt look like himself out there, he looks flustered, he looks fustrated. when in reality his WRs arent catching the ball.

Game Plan? take away the WRs. then its just tom brady. a normal quaterback whose having an off day.

Edited by Raven07, Today, 12:24 PM.

Its posts like these that make me keep reading other teams message boards.

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haha that's a nice find.

brady just sees the guy and throws it up hoping he makes the catch.

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Brilliant analysis. Dude really knows his football.

WelshPatriot said:

Cant wait to shut up Suggs!

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Many have tried my dude, BUT YOU CAN'T STOP A BALLER WHEN HE GETS TO ROLLIN' SON!

Just so ya'll know we have surrendered the second-fewest yards in the NFL to tight ends (665), the second-fewest touchdowns (three) and the sixth-fewest receptions (62). No tight end has gained more than 73 yards against the defense this season. We've played Antonio Gates and Vernon Davis.

When we saw Wes Welker last year we held him to 53 yds

Terrell Suggs said:

Many have tried my dude, BUT YOU CAN'T STOP A BALLER WHEN HE GETS TO ROLLIN' SON!

Just so ya'll know we have surrendered the second-fewest yards in the NFL to tight ends (665), the second-fewest touchdowns (three) and the sixth-fewest receptions (62). No tight end has gained more than 73 yards against the defense this season. We've played Antonio Gates and Vernon Davis.

When we saw Wes Welker last year we held him to 53 yds

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Were Gates and Davis on the same team at the time?

Terrell Suggs said:

Many have tried my dude, BUT YOU CAN'T STOP A BALLER WHEN HE GETS TO ROLLIN' SON!

Just so ya'll know we have surrendered the second-fewest yards in the NFL to tight ends (665), the second-fewest touchdowns (three) and the sixth-fewest receptions (62). No tight end has gained more than 73 yards against the defense this season. We've played Antonio Gates and Vernon Davis.

When we saw Wes Welker last year we held him to 53 yds

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I don't even have to look at your schedule to say that overall you probably played against some ****ty tight ends.

You're facing the two best in the AFC on sunday.

RealityCheck52 said:

There are two games being referenced that will have no bearing on the reality that will be experienced in the Ravens VS the Patriots.

Ravens VS San Deigo

Patriots VS Broncos

I would suggest probably the games between the Ravens and the Patriots as a better indicator..

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I would say yes. But last year was the first game post Moss. Deion's first game back with the team. A much younger team on both sides of the ball. A lot of first year starters for New England all over the field. Not sure how much I would read into that game other than how each team might try to attack each other. But the results overall I would not put to much stock in.

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Which means boys and girls its gonna be whichever team Blinks first in the turnover, special teams and penalties battle..

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As in just about any game these will be huge factors. IMO, the Ravens need to come up +2 in the turnover battle to win. Unless Rice has a field day, which I don't expect. One thing I am confident of, Flacco will not be the reason we lose.

RealityCheck52 said:

I would be inclinded to say that in the intangible of 'desire' the Ravens probably have a slight edge.. last hurrah for a couple players on the Ravens and the main motivation for some of the veteran players signed (Evans, Boldin, Leach, Pollard).

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You don't think guys like Waters, Ellis, Warren are not in that boat? That goes both ways. And lets not forget about Brady and Belichick knowing they can cement themselves as the greatest of all time both individually and collectively.

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There is an X-Factor element in terms of new personnel since the last matchup.. legitimate deep threat in the form of Evans and Torrey Smith.. it will play into Belicheck game planning adjustments from the last meeting...

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Again that goes both ways. How do you handle the two TE monster offense? Yes, we had both last year, but this offense has been tweeked to make it the primary focus of the offense. Now sprinkle in the Hernandez lined up as a RB etc.... How do the Ravens account for all of that?

IMO, the only way is to get pressure from your front 4.

RealityCheck52 said:

If Suggs gets in Beast Mode (ala vs Steelers) it could be interesting.. Brady is not as mobile as Rothlisberger.. I suspect Pagano is going to dial up blitz mode, counter to the contain package that was implemented against TJ Yates. He would be crazy not to against Brady..

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Yes, Brady is less mobile than Big Ben. But being mobile is Big Ben's entire game. And the Steelers O-line is easily in the bottom third of the league.

Our O-line is as healthy as it has been in a while and is among the best in the league.

RealityCheck52 said:

It's is going to be FUN for sure ! Enjoy.

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Yes it will.

Uncle Rico said:

Were Gates and Davis on the same team at the time?

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great comment!

All Moot.

The QB ratings at the end of the game between Brady and Flacco are going to be close in all probablity. That is the history between the teams. That says it all.

There are some x-factor elements this season (Ravens deep threats) but I suspect Belicheck will adjust. How much that adjustment will assist Ray Rice and Tight-End play (****son, Pitta) will bear watching.

Turnovers, Special Teams, Penalties.

Focus on those areas.

randomk1 said:

I don't even have to look at your schedule to say that overall you probably played against some ****ty tight ends.

You're facing the two best in the NFL on sunday.

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edited it for you