Bill O'Brien Getting Thrown Under A Bus

Utterly appalled by all the BOB critics. Almost everyone on ESPN college game day says it's a terrible hire by Penn State. Plus all the former Penn State players and Alums saying he's "clueless." They would prefer someone in-house. But wouldn't it make more sense to bring someone from outside who has no ties to Penn State or the Sandusky thing?

I think BOB is going to do really well. Penn State has been a crummy program for a long time now.

Here's to BOB calling a great playoffs and telling the world what a great offensive mind he is and shutting up Lavar Arrington and all the other losers.

Really is a mess down there. Good luck to BOB ! I know all of us here will support him. They say, they want in house or former Grads? Might do them a world of good to get some fresh blood now. Start the healing BOB !:rocker:

JaxPats said:

Really is a mess down there. Good luck to BOB ! I know all of us here will support him. They say, they want in house or former Grads? Might do them a world of good to get some fresh blood now. Start the healing BOB !:rocker:

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Yeah, just what they need. More foxes running the henhouse. Good luck to BOB. He's going to need it, whether the dolts at ESPN support him or not.

TommyBrady12 said:

Utterly appalled by all the BOB critics. Almost everyone on ESPN college game day says it's a terrible hire by Penn State. Plus all the former Penn State players and Alums saying he's "clueless." They would prefer someone in-house. But wouldn't it make more sense to bring someone from outside who has no ties to Penn State or the Sandusky thing?

I think BOB is going to do really well. Penn State has been a crummy program for a long time now.

Here's to BOB calling a great playoffs and telling the world what a great offensive mind he is and shutting up Lavar Arrington and all the other losers.

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I'm not a BOB fan. I try to not watch ESPN, as promoting controversies like this is part of their MO. I do think this will turn out to be a bad hire by PSU. I've been critical of his play calling all season. While he does have some college OC experience, going to PSU is a big jump in my opinion. Time will tell.

Kerry Collins said it best, "He's not a 'Penn Stater', but we should all do our best to make him feel like one of us."

Hiring someone not connected to the program is the best possible thing. McGloin (their starting QB) said he's very excited to work with someone who has the experience of BOB. I think most players would generally be excited to work with someone who has been coaching the likes of Brady, Welker, Gronkowski, etc. and calling plays for a top offense in the pros year in and year out.

I don't understand the criticism either. Aside from a few games, O'Brien has done a phenomenal job in my opinion. The Pats went 14-2 then 13-3 with O'Brien, despite a porous defense. I think he's also been improving as a coach every year. He's clearly a smart guy. I was hoping he would stick around for a few years and then become the heir apparent.

Penn State's reaction is exactly why they needed to bring in someone from outside without any of those ties.

I'm rooting for O'Brien to take this team all the way. That would be the best recruiting tool, for O'Brien to convince recruits to stay and play for a Superbowl winning coach.

I can't get over how ridiculous some of the comments from these idiots are. Like this classic:

Former Penn State players upset with coaching hire, process

"There is a tangible standard at Penn State that this poor (O'Brien) guy knows nothing about,'' Short said.

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After all that's gone on at Penn State over the years, the criminal acts as well as the cover-ups, it's absolutely unbelievable that someone is going to talk about standards. Sorry PSU people, you lost the right to talk about standards when you chose football over abusing little boys.

I'm glad they're not bringing in someone familiar with the program who would only seek to cover up the atrocities committed in the background. Keep your tangible standards to yourselves, PSU.

Gee, it was my impression that there was not a line for the next head coach of Penn State.

O'Brien made the choice and will have to live with whatever it brings. He will be paid handsomely regardless. As long as he works hard through the playoffs and does his job here I don't care either way.

LaVar Arrington, just like Jerome Bettis a few weeks ago, is letting his loyalty to Joe Paterno seriously cloud his judgement. Ironically it was Joe Paterno's loyalty to Jerry Sandusky that created this whole mess.

From Arrington's Twitter:

By the board doing what they've done they have in their minds effectively made Joe [Paterno] and the football team a scapegoat when in fact they are the very people that should've been fired due to the lack of action!

Alums I will always love you and the Penn State I knew. but until there's a new board and new leadership they can have their corrupt/disgusting school that they've created. I'm done all my PSU stuff will be down before obriens introduction! We are!

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Even if Arrington's allegations are spot on, he's completely missing the point. Paterno was one of the first to know, he did nothing, and didn't follow up on it. How people like Arrington, Kerry Collins, Brandon Short and others cannot understand that a hire had to be made from the outside simply tells me that they are in denial and don't have a clue as to what the situation is there.

Unfortunately for O'Brien it is a foreshadowing of the criticism that will follow him no matter how well he does. Recruiting is going to become appreciably more difficult and the likelihood of continued success is going to decrease dramatically immediately. And when that inevitably happens Arrington and his fellow alums will say it's all because they hired an outsider while ignoring the reality of the situation.

I hope the money will be worth it for BOB, because he's in a no-win situation.

The alumni uproar is hilarious. They want a "PSU Man", but the qualified alum are all filthy.
They want a cleansing, but they want it via a "PSU Man".... but, again, they're all filthy.


Jim Rome started his 01/06/12 show against BoB... and then all for him, then against him and all for him at the same time. He's the typical schizophrenic radio hack, forever stating that he only takes "choice calls/messages" (execute the opposition), all the while astoundingly swayed by those same unheard/unread messages. Rome likes to think that he's unswayed, he is his own man. But he's just like the rest, albeit with a coy twist that disguises his true motive: he must stay on air, after all. He has always known what time it is. Loser with a big mouth.


I say, to the devil with anyone before or behind a microphone as it applies to Penn State University. Most of the B.S. I've heard lately is just this: "We want a Penn State Guy!" But the "Penn State Guys" that are qualified to be head coach there are pretty much all complicit in the filth.... How badly does the collective PSU alum want to move forward? Probably not fast enough, otherwise there would not be such an uproar against an outsider such as Bill O'Brien.

Here's the bottom line with the PSU alum: They've one foot in the past, and one foot in the future while their chestnuts are a-roasting in hideous scandal.
Time to put the shame in its grave and move forward, or wallow in the filth.

Ron Sellers said:

LaVar Arrington, just like Jerome Bettis a few weeks ago, is letting his loyalty to Joe Paterno seriously cloud his judgement. Ironically it was Joe Paterno's loyalty to Jerry Sandusky that created this whole mess.

From Arrington's Twitter:


Even if Arrington's allegations are spot on, he's completely missing the point. Paterno was one of the first to know, he did nothing, and didn't follow up on it. How people like Arrington, Kerry Collins, Brandon Short and others cannot understand that a hire had to be made from the outside simply tells me that they are in denial and don't have a clue as to what the situation is there.

Unfortunately for O'Brien it is a foreshadowing of the criticism that will follow him no matter how well he does. Recruiting is going to become appreciably more difficult and the likelihood of continued success is going to decrease dramatically immediately. And when that inevitably happens Arrington and his fellow alums will say it's all because they hired an outsider while ignoring the reality of the situation.

I hope the money will be worth it for BOB, because he's in a no-win situation.

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For the record, Collins supports BOB.

One alum, quarterback Kerry Collins, released a statement Friday offering O'Brien his support.

"Much is being said about the hiring of Bill O'Brien as the next football coach at Penn State. I do not know him. I have never met him nor been coached by him. One thing I do know is that I will support him and I call on all Penn State football lettermen to do the same," Collins said. "Whether you agree or disagree with his hiring, we should support him. Instead of chastising him for not being a Penn Stater, let's show him what it means to be a Penn Stater. Coach O'Brien is faced with the daunting task of resurrecting our beloved, yet bruised program. Let's support him in any way we can."

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Greetings,
This was an unattractive hire regardless of the Sandusky issue. College football fans are even worse than Pro fans when it comes to their teams, even the ones who never even stepped foot on the campus. Especially when the program has a certain prestige(Always ranked, Always going to bowl games, National Championships) and a head coach that was as popular as Paterno, that had been their decades before I was even born. Many have a sense of entitlement of big names coaches, and winning National Championships.

Add this Sandusky mess to the mix and that hardly anyone from Penn State wants him to be Head Coach, and let him know from that the moment he was hired, is the ultimate way to be set up to fail. I mean these fools are calling for recruits to de-commit, and current player to transfer because of his hire. If anything players are de-commiting and transferring is because of this Sandusy crap. Good look to Bill O'Brien, he needs all he can get!!
Celticboy04

Peter King is usually a biased guy but as he said today on weei

Some prominent former Nittany Lions have questioned the school's decision to pursue someone with no Penn State ties and not consulting them. King called the commenters "stupid alumni."

"What a bunch of idiots," King said, adding: "Why don't you go in the real world and do your job? You're not on the search committee."

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TommyBrady12 said:

Utterly appalled by all the BOB critics. Almost everyone on ESPN college game day says it's a terrible hire by Penn State. Plus all the former Penn State players and Alums saying he's "clueless." They would prefer someone in-house. But wouldn't it make more sense to bring someone from outside who has no ties to Penn State or the Sandusky thing?

I think BOB is going to do really well. Penn State has been a crummy program for a long time now.

Here's to BOB calling a great playoffs and telling the world what a great offensive mind he is and shutting up Lavar Arrington and all the other losers.

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Alumni groups can be helpful, but they are also a big pain in the ass.

strngplyr said:

Kerry Collins said it best, "He's not a 'Penn Stater', but we should all do our best to make him feel like one of us."

Hiring someone not connected to the program is the best possible thing. McGloin (their starting QB) said he's very excited to work with someone who has the experience of BOB. I think most players would generally be excited to work with someone who has been coaching the likes of Brady, Welker, Gronkowski, etc. and calling plays for a top offense in the pros year in and year out.

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He's not a "Penn Stater?" What an entitled, out of reality fan base. That program is about as relevant these days as AIC. Time for a reality check.

Really not surprised at the reaction of Penn St Alums and fans. You should have read Black Shoe Diaries - For Penn St. Nittany Lions Fans after the Child abuse news came out.

You have to realize that PSU is a crazed football cult. These clowns honestly believed they were do for an Urban Meyer level hire.

I honestly don't know why BOB wants the job. He has a huge task in front of him and that fan base will not accept 6-7 win seasons from someone not named Joe Paterno. He could be gone after 3 mediocre years and then what?

I swear we had the same exact conversations after JMD was hired and people thought he'd be the one to turn the tide with the BB coaching tree.

It may not be an awful hire, but until one of these actually pan out I wouldn't consider any of them a good hire, of course they've all done great here but the history don't lie. I gave JMD 3 years and was off by 1 year, I give BOB about the same.

The fundamental issue is that the alum, PSU die hards and the Joe Pa apologists would have complained if they hired Vince Lombardi. These people are delusional to the fact that PSU needs to start with a completely clean slate and not have anyone with any prior affiliation lead the football program. The football brand has been compromised and bringing in a "Joe Pa" disciple would have been the wrong move. As wrong as it is, it would have been perceived as, 'more of the same'...

Last year, PSU's revenue from football was $72.7M and gross profit was $53.2M. That was 2nd in the country next to U of T. It is expected that the school's revenue and profit will dip sharply over the next year or so as licencing contracts, sponsorships, etc. contracts expire. With the scandal, it's obvious that the PSU brand has been severely tarnished.

The school had no choice by to pick and outsider to save the brand- essentially create a new one in the process. We'll find out if BOB is the right man for the actual job of coaching a BCS- caliber program but the logic that PSU followed in his hiring makes total sense.

Good luck to BOB. He did a decent job for the team. I hope he and his family have the strength to turn that school around and be successful.