Bruschi to Ochocinco: 'Join the system, buddy'

Rusty Coupe · Sep 14, 2011

There is probably a bigger overall picture here that is being missed. The media breaks things down into tidy 30 second segments and has this simply focused on Twitter.

Bruschi's 8/29 column after the Lions game says essentially the same thing he said on EEI yesterday with less urgency.

The Patriots run a play in which the tight end is lined up on one side and is the primary target, running across the offensive formation. The receiver on the opposite side of the primary target must time his route, and as soon as the ball is caught on the opposite side, he must be in position to block the defender at the right moment. It's a coordinated effort with the quarterback and the primary target on the opposite side; you run your route in unison, and as the ball is caught, you're in position to either block or be "in the way."

Ochocinco got there too early, he was in the way, and he attempted to throw a block as Rob Gronkowski caught the ball. That's what the officials saw. Watching at home, it might have looked like Ochocinco was blown up, but overall it was a case where the timing to run the play hasn't been perfected yet.

Bruschi then wen't on to say the pats were hoping he could take a leadership role with the team if he catches on.

One hopes that coming to New England and conforming to a team-first attitude doesn't lessen Ochocinco's ability to be a vocal leader. With running back Kevin Faulk looking more likely to land on the reserve/physically unable to perform list, meaning he won't be out there for a while, the Patriots need someone like Ochocinco.

Bruschi on Tap -- New England Patriots need more than just Tom Brady - ESPN Boston

shmessy · Sep 14, 2011

Garbanza said:
Bull. Tedy does have a twitter account...is part of the media....hell, he should be breaking Twitter now. He isn't.

I know a great many of you are just start struck at the sensation that is Ochocino....and kudos for him for creating it. He's a super marketer and brand manager. But lets get real, he's not what he used to be and does appear to have issues understanding the offense. Spare me the lock-out crap. Burress looked okay and he was in jail for two years and endured a lock-out. Oh, I know, the Patriots system is sooooo complicated it takes a rocket scientist to get it. Does Rob Gronkowski seem like a bright bulb to you folks? C'mon. Ocho will never live up to expectations...and perhaps the expectations were too high for a guy on the downside of his career. Chad is a media sensation with diminishing skills. Period.

1) Tedy didn't have a Twitter account when he was a PLAYER. And he WAS a media hog when he played.

2) My expectations as I've written all along about Ochocinco is ~40+ catches this year (2.5 per game). So yes, he's waaaaaay behind so far.

mac · Sep 14, 2011

Bruschi is photogenic, personable, and eloquent, but, as an analyst, he really doesn't bring much to the table. He's mostly hot air. Ocho's reaction seems quite honest to me. Watching MNF with Gruden as color guy, now that is a diffeernt story. Gruden educates.

borg · Sep 14, 2011

Kid~Brady said:
Obviously not verbally slain people that are really trying their hardest and if they do, get the facts straight before doing so.

If they try really really hard, but do a lousy job, then analysts can't criticize them? Does every player get a trophy after the game?

Patriot_in_NY · Sep 14, 2011

mac said:
Bruschi is photogenic, personable, and eloquent, but, as an analyst, he really doesn't bring much to the table. He's mostly hot air. Ocho's reaction seems quite honest to me. Watching MNF with Gruden as color guy, now that is a diffeernt story. Gruden educates.

Jaws is good too.

shmessy · Sep 14, 2011

Clonamery said:
I generally agre with you on this but I am pretty sure ESPN had to have given a green light to this......

Bingo, they are positively orgasm-ing over it.

Just heard 20 minutes of it on ESPN radio with Rusillo and Van Pelt. They say Bruschi isn't "on campus" at Bristol University today, but they will have him on tomorrow (after he picks up his bonus check).

Ratings, baby! Tedy has learned the tricks of the trade.

Kid~Brady · Sep 14, 2011

borg said:
If they try really really hard, but do a lousy job, then analysts can't criticize them? Does every player get a trophy after the game?

I bet Tedy doesnt scream and yell at his kids when they makes mistakes or isnt learning their high school algebra as fast as he likes. This makes people feel uncomfortable and takes a toll of their attitude.

The points is this way about handling things only makes matters worse. Like we all stated, he could have done things a bit differently. He didnt have to go off like he did. Thats childish to me.

shmessy · Sep 14, 2011

tobias funke said:
Try to remember that Bruschi isn't calling out CJ for his play (or lack thereof). He's calling him out for an attitude that even CJ himself may not realize isn't conducive to progression with this team.

If anyone thinks Brady is going to throw a teammate under the bus in the media, they are sorely mistaken. Keep in mind that this is the same Brady who froze Moss out of the offense due to his attitude, yet will say "I'd love to play with him again" until the day he dies. If you spend $5,000,000 on a player, it is not a stretch to believe that every ounce of his focus should be on contributing to the team.

That being said, it is also important to remember Branch, Welker, Hernandez, Gronkowski, Woodhead, BJGE, and Slater are all very healthy and know the system very well. Chances are high that all 7 of them will not be able to maintain that health for the entire season. If we don't need 85 to be productive in weeks 1-4, why force him into service while he continues to acclimate and those guys are healthy?

Once guys start getting dinged up and CJ is pressed into service, that will be the time to worry about his on-field contributions (which, again, Bruschi is not really referring to). Brady has said "we're going to need him", leading me to believe that getting CJ involved is not something the team has decided to rush into willy-nilly.

THIS.

#85 was brought almost for depth insurance. Someone will go down at some point this year. I'd rather have him in the wings than Buddy Farnham.

FirstAndGoal · Sep 14, 2011

All I know is this. Tedy and Rodney don't have to be in the locker room. They both feel (and even Troy Brown does if you listen to him) that Chad needs to get it in gear.

Tedy's point is that Chad is getting paid to be part of the solution, not someone who is looking in at it and amazed at how it just works. He's supposed to be a part of the machine. He's saying "Stop acting like a fan and learn your role".

He's right too. Chad shouldn't be in awe of it. He should be knee deep in it and pulling the machine apart to see how it works and how he fits in.... that's Tedy's point and the whole "magic" thing just pissed him off.

Ever hear the phrase "Work smarter not harder"? We say it all the time in my field. Tedy's telling him to work smarter and figure it out because he shouldn't be looking at it as a magician pulling a rabbit out of a hat. He should understand exactly how the trick works.

shmessy · Sep 14, 2011

PatsWickedPissah said:
Edelman went to see the flick "Warrior" according to his Facebook posts. He liked it. Next up, he reviews "The Help".

And he liked Miss Columbia last night in the Miss Universe contest.

Bru, where are you???????? Edelman dropped one on Monday!!!!!!!

Steve102 · Sep 14, 2011

Kid~Brady said:
So the "Patriot Way" is publicly airing someone out that plays for your former team?
How do you think BB feels about what Bruschi did ?

I am tempted to say he may have been prompted by BB, but that certainly goes against grain. I would say if Hoodie stood up in front of a podium and was asked, we'd get a "I can't comment on every little thing someone in the media says" dismissive. I would also wager that privately, he welcomes the call to action.

Garbanza · Sep 14, 2011

mac said:
Bruschi is photogenic, personable, and eloquent, but, as an analyst, he really doesn't bring much to the table. He's mostly hot air. Ocho's reaction seems quite honest to me. Watching MNF with Gruden as color guy, now that is a diffeernt story. Gruden educates.

That is the FUNNIEST thing I have read all day. Gruden educates. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He loves everyone, makes sunshine out of JAG manure, is almost unlistenable. Gruden educates. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Steve102 · Sep 14, 2011

Garbanza said:
That is the FUNNIEST thing I have read all day. Gruden educates. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He loves everyone, makes sunshine out of JAG manure, is almost unlistenable. Gruden educates. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this guy, right here, he educates. :rocker:

patsfaninpittsburgh · Sep 14, 2011

borg said:
If they are not allowed to talk about players, what are analysts allowed to do?

Did you ever watch the 2003 Patriots episode of America's Game. Rodney hammers Jackson on the hating the coach comment.

Consistency and principles. If you don't like it, why practice? If the Patriot's way is to keep things inhouse, why are these guys running their mouthes?

If the new Patriot Way is to violate all the principles of the old Patriot Way because it furthers the analyst career; I'm actually fine with it.

I'd just like to get the memo.

shmessy · Sep 14, 2011

Steve:Section 102 said:
.....Sorry, but I disagree. It's very clear that Tedy still has the passion he had while playing. Now instead of having to hold the company line, he lets it rip. I have no problem with it......

Actually, you are wrong.

He DOES toe his (current) company's line.

The man is a good employee.

Steve102 · Sep 14, 2011

patsfaninpittsburgh said:
Did you ever watch the 2003 Patriots episode of America's Game. Rodney hammers Jackson on the hating the coach comment.

Consistency and principles. If you don't like it, why practice? If the Patriot's way is to keep things inhouse, why are these guys running their mouthes?

If the new Patriot Way is to violate all the principles of the old Patriot Way because it furthers the analyst career; I'm actually fine with it.

I'd just like to get the memo.

Looks to me like you just distributed the memo

reflexblue · Sep 14, 2011

Like i said before i always wanted to see him play for the pats, i thought he and TB would be great. I went back and started reading some of the earlier posts i don't get why so many are intensely defending Ocho. Its not like he has played for the pats and for years and put up great numbers. I could see defending Moss, he was here a couple of years and put up some really good numbers, Chad hes only been here a couple of months theres no history. Is it some of you are still fantasize about moving in with him for Three weeks

livinginthe past · Sep 14, 2011

Steve:Section 102 said:
I am tempted to say he may have been prompted by BB, but that certainly goes against grain. I would say if Hoodie stood up in front of a podium and was asked, we'd get a "I can't comment on every little thing someone in the media says" dismissive. I would also wager that privately, he welcomes the call to action.

So despite the fact that your theory rides polar opposite to what we actually KNOW about how Belichick deals with these issues you are 'tempted' to go with it?

Could that be because it falls neatly in with your absurd alternate reality?

Its also pretty brave of you to 'wager' a bet on something that is completely unprovable.

If posts were football players your one would be Aaron Maybin.

patsfaninpittsburgh · Sep 14, 2011

reflexblue said:
Like i said before i always wanted to see him play for the pats, i thought he and TB would be great. I went back and started reading some of the earlier posts i don't get why so many are intensely defending Ocho. Its not like he has played for the pats and for years and put up great numbers. I could see defending Moss, he was here a couple of years and put up some really good numbers, Chad hes only been here a couple of months theres no history. Is it some of you are still fantasize about moving in with him for Three weeks

The debate is really about Rodney and Tedy.

it might be time to have Adam Seward knock some reality into those guys.

Steve102 · Sep 14, 2011

livinginthe past said:
So despite the fact that your theory rides polar opposite to what we actually KNOW about how Belichick deals with these issues you are 'tempted' to go with it?

Could that be because it falls neatly in with your absurd alternate reality?

Its also pretty brave of you to 'wager' a bet on something that is completely unprovable.

If posts were football players your one would be Aaron Maybin.

the question to me was "How do you think BB feels about what Bruschi did ?" Would you prefer that I answer in the Patriotesque: "I have no idea what coach Belichick thinks. I haven't spoke to him." ?

That's right up there with "I have no idea what Chad was asked to do in Cincinatti last season, I didn't coach him."

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