Nnamdi Asomugha Sweepstakes(merged, again!)

The Scrizz said:

Plus they used failed CB Dwight Lowery at safety last year.

See, they Jets have an embarrassment of mediocrity at safety. And DL. And WR. And TE (I would take our top 5 including Yeats before their #2).

The more I think about it, let them have Nmadi. With their depth, this team is 2 or 3 injuries from a bottom-5 team.

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RxJock1120 said:

I disagree 100% with your statement. A chain is only as strong as it's weakest link. Revis and ASO can only cover 2 receivers, and most passing plays have 3-4 receivers, it makes a huge difference who is covering the other 2 receivers. Teams are always burned by the weakest player on their defense.

Think about it, what are the top Defenses outside of the Jets? Ravens, Steelers, Bears, Packers, maybe Chargers. All those teams are strong up the middle--> DT, LB, and Safeties. Even in the Pats defensive haydays, we were strong up the middle, not necessarily at CB.

Plus if the Jets can't get any pressure on the QB they are gonna get light up by most decent QB's throwing to the middle of the field. But then again that's why they play the game!!!!!

Just saying.

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skri65 said:

Ok, just so we're all on the same page, if the Jets sign Aso, the New England Patriots will have a better secondary than the New York Jets? This is to verify that we're all on the same page

You both do realize that Aso and Revis will never need safety help. Right? And that, um, kind of allows them to cover for any weaknesses they have at any other positions. Speaking of weaknesses, their nickleback is a first round pick from last year. So really you're getting down to their dime packages and safeties, and Jim Leonhard is pretty damn good. Most importantly, like I said before, Aso and Revis will never need help, allowing their secondary to make up for any small weaknesses.

I'm sorry but am I alone on this? Does anyone else think that a Jets secondary with Aso is better than our secondary?

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skri65 said:

Ok, just so we're all on the same page, if the Jets sign Aso, the New England Patriots will have a better secondary than the New York Jets? This is to verify that we're all on the same page

You both do realize that Aso and Revis will never need safety help. Right? And that, um, kind of allows them to cover for any weaknesses they have at any other positions. Speaking of weaknesses, their nickleback is a first round pick from last year. So really you're getting down to their dime packages and safeties, and Jim Leonhard is pretty damn good. Most importantly, like I said before, Aso and Revis will never need help, allowing their secondary to make up for any small weaknesses.

I'm sorry but am I alone on this? Does anyone else think that a Jets secondary with Aso is better than our secondary?

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AndyJohnson said:

Im not commenting on this until after it goes one way or the other, but I think the Jets are much less of a challenge if they break the bank for Aso.

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LuthierJr said:

I think the real crux comes down to this in terms of backfield.

Which is better:

Option # 1: Aso + Revis + the other JAGS and zero depth

Option # 2: Revis + another good but not elite corner + solid depth + solid safties/nickel/dime players.

I'd rather have option #2 even if it is not as sexy as option #1

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Hey folks...

die hard Raider fan here... just wanted to give you my take on the whole Nnamdi deal.

First off, I think Revis is a better CB than Nnamdi and I think Nnamdi is horribly overrated. When he signed his 2 year deal in 09 I was expecting around 11 mil per... When I saw $15 I was livid.

In addition... the whole "lack of targets" on him is terribly overrated for a few reasons.

The Raiders always had a terrible run D and teams were content with just running it down their throat. Also, the Raiders run a heavy dose of Man 1 and teams were also content with just picking apart the soft spot underneath.

I have watched Nnamdi the last 4 years in total frustration because they refused to move him on to the other teams #1. I don't know why our staff was totally content with letting him shut down the other teams #2. When he WAS matched up on a #1 he had his share of issues.

What really nailed the coffin for me with Nnamdi was when his contract was voided because he couldn't create one turnover. He had a stipulation where if he made one turnover (FF, fumble recovery or INT) he would have activated the option for another 15 mil... He couldn't even make one play.

So... while I think Nnamdi is certainly a GOOD corner. Expecting him to take away one half of the field is definitely not going to happen on any other team with a cornerback worth their weight in salt opposite of him.

Just my $.02 if you lose out on the Nnamdi sweepstakes.. I wouldn't feel too bad about it at all. Plenty of Raider fans are actually happy to see him go. It will actually be a blessing for the Jets, IMO, because the finishing touches on that Lombardi run can be made. Why have the dude cripple your cap for the next 5 years you know? I can definitely see him doing a face plant.

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TheSolderKing said:

DEPTH IS MUCH MORE IMPORTANT 1 cb injury and they r screwed

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patriot lifer said:

Interesting post someone forwarded me from a Jets board. It was posted by a Raiders fan. I don't know if this is representative of other Raiders' fans, but have a look:



Needless to say, the poster was skewered for his blaspheming thereafter.

Nnamdi Asomugha... still waiting - Page 75 - TheGangGreen.com Message Board

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jsull87 said:

Honestly... if all this big money is true, would nnamdi going to the jets be that terrible? How can any team possibly pay all those contracts? Ravis, NNamdi, Dbrick, Mangold, Sanches, Holmes, Harris...

You would have absolutely nothing after that.

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skri65 said:

People seem to be claiming that the Jets are screwed depth-wise if they lose either Aso or Revis to injury for any period of time. I think you all are ignoring they have a Kyle Wilson (first rounder last year) to fill in any void in that respect. I understand that we have better depth, but it's not like they have 0 depth. Having a first rounder CB from last year as 3rd on your depth chart isn't bad.

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skri65 said:

People seem to be claiming that the Jets are screwed depth-wise if they lose either Aso or Revis to injury for any period of time. I think you all are ignoring they have a Kyle Wilson (first rounder last year) to fill in any void in that respect. I understand that we have better depth, but it's not like they have 0 depth. Having a first rounder CB from last year as 3rd on your depth chart isn't bad.

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PATSNUTme said:

I don't think anyone is ignoring that they have Kyle Wilson.

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PATRIOTSFANINPA said:

The Jets are sacrificing the growth of Sanchez and that offense if Asomugha is signed.

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PATRIOTSFANINPA said:

The Jets are sacrificing the growth of Sanchez and that offense if Asomugha is signed.

They will likely be all but guaranteed to lose Edwards and not have much for Sanchez to build upon.

The Jets would be a version of the Ravens ....All D but nothing to talk about on offense and we all see what the Ravens have failed to do the past few years with a great D but pourous offense....and no Super Bowl Appearance

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