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I agree. From all accounts, he's a good kid who made some mistakes. But he appears to have overcome them and learned from them, and he's landed in the best place possible for him.

This pick really shocked me, but it's growing on me now.

Nothing BB does in the draft shocks me anymore. Since 2000, BB has drafted a QB six times. Two picks have come in the 3rd RD, One in the in 4th, two in the 6th and one in the 7th.

With that said, after you rationalize everything (Brady is 34, good value pick, etc.) it's a well-thought out pick.

The debate is that is spending a 3rd rounder on a QB worth more than perhaps bundling that pick with say another one to draft a OLB who can improve the pass rush OR use that pick as compensation for a vet who can help the team win now?
 
Let's say that Brady does not get injured during the next two years. How does Mallet then improve his trade value?

His trade value probably bumps up if he stays out of jail, takes the number two spot, and plays well in pre-season and mop-up situations; I could see someone using a late two on him in that situation.

He'll have to start a few regular season games to really amp up his trade value.
 
Let's say that Brady does not get injured during the next two years. How does Mallet then improve his trade value?
no failed drug tests,
no suspensions for being late for anything,
no arrests,
no outbursts that people would point to for evidence of arrogance or "being a bad teammate",
staying healthy, and
playing well in any mop-up duty as well as in preseason.

The first 5 are concerns that kept him from being a first round draft choice. If every one of them fails to get reinforced in any way, then it stands to reason that his value will creep back up toward his perceived QB skill set, which is regarded as first-round caliber.
 
He can play in the pre-season about 1/2 a game. And, mop-up duty in weeks 16 and 17 as we roll to 9th divisional title in 11 years.
 
His trade value probably bumps up if he stays out of jail, takes the number two spot, and plays well in pre-season and mop-up situations; I could see someone using a late two on him in that situation.

He'll have to start a few regular season games to really amp up his trade value.

Nobody questions his talent or even his football smarts or work ethic. The only questions surround his alleged use of illegal substances (i.e., drugs). If everyone thought he had impeccable character, he very well may have been a top 5 pick.

So all he really needs to do, IMO, is stay healthy, do a pretty good job in his pre-season game work, and stay clean. People will ask BB about him if he can do that.
 
Completely agree. Which is why you should go and take a look at some film of Mallet breaking down his game tape, where he is making multiple reads, dealing with hot routes on both sides of the formations, site reads, etc.

He was the best QB in the draft at that. Of course he has issues, but hes a damn site better prospect than the Pats have had in a long time.


O'Connel and Mallet aren't similar prospects at all.

Kevin O'Connel was a big QB with lots of scrambling ability which is so fashionable these days. Most who do it can't be broken of the habit when they turn pro. In the NFL the QBs job is to execute the passing game, first, last and always.

KOC couldn't change; his developed instinct when his first reciever was covered, was to pull it down and run. Despite Mr. Vick and Mr. V Young and Mr. J Russell that doesn't make you a great, very good, or even an acceptable NFL QB.

But it may bring the crowd to their feet for a play or two. But the accompanying losing won't make them happy for long.

Ryan Mallett is a pocket passer, who passes the ball, first, last and always. He couldn't run if he wanted to do so. But he does shuffle and sidestep around in the pocket, and has the instinct to sense the pass rush, something Brady does superbly, and Bledsoe never seemed to develop.

Mallett's footwork and throwing motion are fine and could be fine tuned. What he needs most is to work on his short and intermediate game while developing more "touch" and accuracy. That and try to develop some runningn quickness and explosion.

I kid you not, I recall some QB and WRs going to Ballet school and Boxing footwork training, to gain some athletic body control. That would be a fine thing for Ryan Mallett to do.
 
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I dont know if this was covered yet, but can ryan mallett play TE? maybe redzone TE?

he has the size and the weight to be a TE, but can he be converted into a productive NFL TE?
 
Yeah good point because we only drafted 1 this year :eek:

I think this pick is what it looks like - a really good college QB, purported to have character issues. I really liked the link posted earlier.... it looks like BB saw a guy who is supposedly arrogant, son of a coach, and supposed to have character issues, but with very scant substantiation that was then trumped up until he was Charles Manson.

Might he actually be a good QB? I dunno, might BB actually be a good coach?

I'm not saying BB had a purely emotional reaction and went with it. I'm saying he had plenty of experience to recognize this "feeding frenzy" pattern, and recognize if the reality matched the rumors.

Going by the assumption today that the posted link was accurate. They certainly made it sound like they did a lot of digging. They also might just as well have made an image-repair post for hire. Who knows.

Since I don't I'll go with hoping the guys with the post got it right. We'll see. Kind of nice to think that after Tom finally rides off into the sunset we've got a legit NFL-ready guy behind him, rather than a Brian Griese. Okay bad example, since Tom backed him up. I mean in the sense that he "succeeded" Elway in Denver.
 
dude?????????????





QUOTE ME. WHEN WE TRADE HOYER WE WILL ACQUIRE A SECOND ROUNDER



WHIZA HAS ME ON RECORD. I WOULD LOVE FOR MALLET TO BECOME BRADY'S SUCCESSOR.


IF HE IMPRESSES THAT EXTENSION IS ALREADY DONE:cool::rocker:
 
I dont know if this was covered yet, but can ryan mallett play TE? maybe redzone TE?

he has the size and the weight to be a TE, but can he be converted into a productive NFL TE?

The 40 yard dash time of over 5.3 seconds suggests he would be perhaps the slowest tight end ever, so probably not. I bet with his 12 inch hands (measured on the ESPN sports science show) he could catch, though.
 
In a couple years when Cam Newton goes JRussell in Carolina, they will be offering the Pats their '14 #33 pick and a '15 2nd for Mallett.
 
I dont know if this was covered yet, but can ryan mallett play TE? maybe redzone TE?

he has the size and the weight to be a TE, but can he be converted into a productive NFL TE?

Do you really think Mallett has ANY desire to be a TE rather than a QB?
 
Do you really think Mallett has ANY desire to be a TE rather than a QB?

Well if he wants to get some playing time he might have to, especially if TB is th QB ahead of him.
 
Well if he wants to get some playing time he might have to, especially if TB is th QB ahead of him.

He won't play TE, he wants to play QB and playing TE poorly gets him no closer to his goal and also exposes him to a lot of risk. There's no way in HELL he plays TE.
 
Kevin O'Connel was a big QB with lots of scrambling ability which is so fashionable these days. Most who do it can't be broken of the habit when they turn pro. In the NFL the QBs job is to execute the passing game, first, last and always.

KOC couldn't change; his developed instinct when his first reciever was covered, was to pull it down and run. Despite Mr. Vick and Mr. V Young and Mr. J Russell that doesn't make you a great, very good, or even an acceptable NFL QB.

But it may bring the crowd to their feet for a play or two. But the accompanying losing won't make them happy for long.

Ryan Mallett is a pocket passer, who passes the ball, first, last and always. He couldn't run if he wanted to do so. But he does shuffle and sidestep around in the pocket, and has the instinct to sense the pass rush, something Brady does superbly, and Bledsoe never seemed to develop.

Mallett's footwork and throwing motion are fine and could be fine tuned. What he needs most is to work on his short and intermediate game while developing more "touch" and accuracy. That and try to develop some runningn quickness and explosion.

I kid you not, I recall some QB and WRs going to Ballet school and Boxing footwork training, to gain some athletic body control. That would be a fine thing for Ryan Mallett to do.

I'd add martial arts to ballet and boxing. All of these cross training situations emphasize accurate body control discipline effective in those small displacements necessary to avoid the rush without panic, jerky moves. Martial and boxing add a speed dimension.
 
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