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I remember the opposite claimed in this article.

I remember at the time that the Patriots, Belichick, and Kraft were hamstrung from giving their side of the story because they were told/ordered to keep their mouths shut by Goodell.

I remember that distinctly too which is whats confusing about this whole Goodell thing. If he meted out such a huge fine and penalty because BB wouldnt apologize the way he wanted too, well that would explain why the punishment doesnt fit the crime.
 
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People will continue to bring it up.They wanna know what was on those tapes.They got destroyed.Winning a superbowl would cure that.
No it wouldn't. In fact, it would make people bring it up more.
 
I don't think the NFL is a completely un-manipulated league, and the cynic in me thinks the NFL will never let the Patriots with Belichick and Brady win another Superbowl until they can remove themselves from the tarnish of the Video Witch Hunt.
As a huge business with a massive audience, it just wouldn't be very popular for the NFL if the Patriots won again, with the wide perception that they were cheaters who got away with it, where the evidence was quickly destroyed that would have incriminated them further.

Bob Kraft needs to fight back against the un-truths.
 
The Patriots have made a MAJOR mistake by not addressing this publicly whenever these silly fires flare up.
It's just foolish to sit there and take it year after year. Foolish!
Belichick's personality disorder harms that organization a great deal in situations like this. I'm amazed Kraft allows his organization to be continually dragged through the dirt and says/does nothing. Amazed!!
(and their silence only verfies their guilt among the greater public)
FOOLISH!
 
The Patriots have made a MAJOR mistake by not addressing this publicly whenever these silly fires flare up.

Option 1. Offer a rebuttal over an offense that was adressed 4 years ago and create a war of words between one of the most powerful owners in the league and the commissioner a week before the 1st round of negotiations between the league and the NFLPA.

Option 2. Do nothing and let it resurface in some innocuous sports show that is completely irrelevant.


It's just foolish to sit there and take it year after year. Foolish!

No. It is a tried and true PR strategy that is taught in masters-level public communications classes.


Belichick's personality disorder harms that organization a great deal in situations like this.

You are right. He should just resign and put us out of our misery. C'mon now.

I'm amazed Kraft allows his organization to be continually dragged through the dirt and says/does nothing. Amazed!!
(and their silence only verfies their guilt among the greater public)
FOOLISH!

I'm willing to bet that Kraft has called Goodell and expressed his concern that he has brought the issue back to light and hopes that everyone can move on. Goodell will consider that as a show of respect and moving forward, keep his mouth shut.

There is nothing to be gained by having a public pissing match. It will only escalate the issue.

Rise above it, Rhody. Rehashing the past does no one any good.
 
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Mediots are piling on; the Globe's Gaspar wrote an article saying BB needs to come clean aout Spygate. WTF? And no I don't mean Winning The Future. Boston sportswriters are the worst. G is now Dead To Me.
 
This always kills me. What exactly do you think could be on those tapes that would be so incriminating?? They filmed the opponent's sideline from their own sideline. Out in the open. With a shaky-cam. All that could possibly be on there are opponent players and coaches, the game clock, and some gratuitous cheerleader shots :rolleyes:.... This was hardly Robert Ludlum-esque espionage, here.

I've always believed the incriminating stuff was the occasional shot of the opposing teams cameraman doing his thing when the Pats were sending in their defensive signals. What better reason to destroy the tapes? Goodell simply used the Pats as an example and warning to the rest of the league, yet he didn't want to look foolish releasing them when they showed the Pats weren't the only one.
 
I've always believed the incriminating stuff was the occasional shot of the opposing teams cameraman doing his thing when the Pats were sending in their defensive signals. What better reason to destroy the tapes? Goodell simply used the Pats as an example and warning to the rest of the league, yet he didn't want to look foolish releasing them when they showed the Pats weren't the only one.

I hope BB kept a few of those tapes. He signed an affidavit that those were the tapes and that he had no others. Goodell destroyed them, supposedly. What's the statue of limitations on such an affidavit? Can Belichick say, "15 years have gone by, these are the tapes?"
 
Mediots are piling on; the Globe's Gaspar wrote an article saying BB needs to come clean aout Spygate. WTF? And no I don't mean Winning The Future. Boston sportswriters are the worst. G is now Dead To Me.

BOSTON mediots are piling on. Everyone else (except Roger rabbit) moved on long ago.
BTW when Gaspar is old enough to shave I may pay attention to him. On second thought....Nah!! Why?? I own shoes older than he is.
Gaspar is quite an irrelevant little mediot.
 
I hope BB kept a few of those tapes. He signed an affidavit that those were the tapes and that he had no others. Goodell destroyed them, supposedly. What's the statue of limitations on such an affidavit? Can Belichick say, "15 years have gone by, these are the tapes?"

They should make a "Al Capones Vault" type show and entitle it, "Belichick's Double-Secret Spygate Tapes".

After 45 minutes of Geraldo yammering on, flip on the VCR with a billion people watching and it's BB and the kids in Disney World then an episode of "The Simpsons".
 
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They should make a "Al Capones Vault" type show and entitle it, "Belichick's Double-Secret Spygate Tapes".

After 45 minutes of Geraldo yammering on, flip on the VCR with a billion people watching and it's BB and the kids in Disney World then an episode of "The Simpsons".

They already did that' comissioner Goodell had the Matt Walsh hoax carry on for 3 months and then did a press conference and said "never mind" yet he's the one to feel betrayed. Why couldn't that whole drama have been solved in about 45 minutes? Truth us BB's real transgression was thumbing his nose at NY and becoming successful here.
 
Gee, I wonder why Peter didn't ask Goodell about the Favre/Sterger situation. Must have simply been an over-sight.
 
The only deception is the one Goodell pulled on the owners to get them to believe he's a leader with a vision. $10 mil per yr for this guy?!
 
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Recently the Jets were found guilty of "CHEATING" in such a manner as to possibly cause injury to a player. What was the league's response? A slap on the wrist and a lot of detective work to find tape on the Patriots doing it> Did Charlie Casserly or Jay Glazer go out of their way to spread the story about the jets taping in 06; did they comb game tapes to see other teams taping from the sidelines? THen a player from his beloved Jets called a Pats player an A-hole and another player from the Jets threatened a Pats player's career: the league response, warn all of the teams left in the playoffs although every other team accounted itself with the decorum expected. The Jets team was responsible for so many indiscretions this year that it's hard to recall all of them yet the league seemed unconcerned about it, a complete 180 from their hyper controlling interest in all of the other teams.
IN 08 Goodell in his press conference stated that other teams "scouted" signals but the Pats did it illegally. Probably the stupidest comment on the whole farce yet he was never called on it. Kind of like saying "my kids helped themselves to candy from the drugstore but your kids stole it." The questions that were never asked are, "Isn't a stolen signal a stolen signal" and "why are some methods acceptable?" Along with. "During the 06 season the Jets were asked to stop taping the Pats yet continued to do so and claimed the Pats gave them permission, why would the Patriots allow the Jets to do this if it was such a
an advantage?" So it seems obvious to me that either the Jets lied or the Pats were cruxified over something they consider trivial.
 
Gee, I wonder why Peter didn't ask Goodell about the Favre/Sterger situation. Must have simply been an over-sight.

Or Inez Sains< or "I have pretty feet" or threatening player's careers, or "thigh-gate" or a complete lack of acceptable behavior in the media, or Illegal practices, or .........
 
You know what I find totally unbelievable in this story, if part of the punishment was that BB issue a verbal apology then why didn't Roger bring it up in 2007? Since he's all powerful Adolph why did he let BB off with no suspension if BB didn't fulfull his "punishment." Roger then does nothing for 4 yrs, nothing at all officially but now whines about being deceived in a magazine article with his buddy Peter King. Was he possibly drinking when he was interviewed for this story? Oh, in the same story he claims to be proud of Mike Vick, a man who lied to him face-to-face about killing animals and then lied further to cover it up. He's proud of Vick's turn around and Vick deserves a 2nd chance but a coach who has been in the league since 1975 worked his way up from special assistant can't make a mistake and deserve a 2nd chance. Please?! There's definitely some very personal hatred of BB by Roger, no other explanation. That or his hatred for old-time coaches in the league who've done things a certain way for yrs and yrs and he's the new sherriff in town who is going to change all that.
 
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Gee, I wonder why Peter didn't ask Goodell about the Favre/Sterger situation. Must have simply been an over-sight.
Ha Ha, great point!

Why is it the two self-proclaimed official keepers of the integrity of the game didn't discuss that topic?

For King, anything negative to do with Favre is a great big no comment.

For Goodell, anything to do with the Jets is a great big no comment.

Monkey see, monkey do; hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil.
 
Recently the Jets were found guilty of "CHEATING" in such a manner as to possibly cause injury to a player. What was the league's response? A slap on the wrist and a lot of detective work to find tape on the Patriots doing it> Did Charlie Casserly or Jay Glazer go out of their way to spread the story about the jets taping in 06; did they comb game tapes to see other teams taping from the sidelines? THen a player from his beloved Jets called a Pats player an A-hole and another player from the Jets threatened a Pats player's career: the league response, warn all of the teams left in the playoffs although every other team accounted itself with the decorum expected. The Jets team was responsible for so many indiscretions this year that it's hard to recall all of them yet the league seemed unconcerned about it, a complete 180 from their hyper controlling interest in all of the other teams.
IN 08 Goodell in his press conference stated that other teams "scouted" signals but the Pats did it illegally. Probably the stupidest comment on the whole farce yet he was never called on it. Kind of like saying "my kids helped themselves to candy from the drugstore but your kids stole it." The questions that were never asked are, "Isn't a stolen signal a stolen signal" and "why are some methods acceptable?" Along with. "During the 06 season the Jets were asked to stop taping the Pats yet continued to do so and claimed the Pats gave them permission, why would the Patriots allow the Jets to do this if it was such a
an advantage?" So it seems obvious to me that either the Jets lied or the Pats were cruxified over something they consider trivial.

You don't always have to go looking too hard, sometimes things just kind of fall into your lap. I'm sure that it was just hard work on Glazer's part that he was able to have the video evidence of the Pats purportedly doing their own tripping on the sidelines, just in time to broadcast it before the Pats-Rats playoff game. Coincidentally "Lucky Jay" Glazer was also the recipient of the Spygate tape that was released to Fox Sports. Ol' "Lucky Jay" is real good at being in the right place at the right time.

'Spygate' leak could lead to investigation - Shutdown Corner - NFL - Yahoo! Sports

'The NFL may launch an internal investigation into how the videotape at the heart of the "spygate" controversy involving the New England Patriots and New York Jets became public Sunday.
Two sources said Monday the leak could result in a probe of the league's offices.
Fox reporter Jay Glazer obtained a copy of the tape, made during New England's season-opening victory over the Jets and shown on the network's pre-game show Sunday. The tape clearly shows that the Patriots were taping the Jets' defensive signals, time on the clock and down-and-distance situations.
"It should not have happened and we are very disappointed about it," NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said of the leaked tape. "But it does not impact what we are doing."
The sources said NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell was exceptionally angry the tape got out and there are concerns among other league officials that the leak could hurt the credibility of a further investigation of the Patriots."

I also found THIS part extremely interesting:


"This is the kind of thing where (Patriots owner Robert) Kraft looks at us and says, 'All you guys do is favor the Jets,'" said the league source, suggesting there is a perceived bias for the New York-area teams.
"This kind of stuff puts us in a bad position.""


So maybe Kraft HAS objected to the league about this crap already, and he isn't silent like we thought. Maybe he needs to get louder and more public with this.

Maybe the league has something to do with Kraft not going public like we're all screaming for, but what could it be that could cause him to stand by helplessly while the league stalks and violates the Pats' reputation?
 
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