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Kontradiction · Jan 23, 2011

Deus Irae said:
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Just a look at these headlines will bring back painful memories of similar Patriots threads, but will offer a bit of schadenfreude at the same time.

This thread is the best...

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RHbT76 · Jan 23, 2011

RayClay said:
Mind, you, this is with a defensive back on the line, we get more runs, ranging from -1 to 10 yards. We completed some passes too. Where is the indication that we could score quickly by using BJ more? There is none. At best, long clock killing drives, at worst, they guess right and we have to punt.

When did I say we would score quickly? I don't consider that to be important in the least.

When have I said BJGE would make "game breaking runs"?

RayClay said:
Getting to know how the game turned out, then saying for sure if we did the opposite it would have worked is meaningless, unless you're George Costanza.

You can use your crystal ball and say you would have, without knowing how the game turned out, decided to take the ball out of Brady's hands, even though he had time to throw and gone with a BJ running attack.

Personally I don't believe you.

I don't particularly care what you believe. And I said before I would have opened up the first half with a running attack, I never suggested running for the entire game.

Of course, since we know Ryan was letting us run, we can see how many game breaking runs our RBS had.

Here's our 7 minute drive in the 4th. BJ ran in series in the third and we stayed behind. If you think replacing Woodhead's runs with 3-5 yard runs from BJ would have made a difference, fine. I don't. That's a lot of clock to run when you're behind.

No, I don't really care about how was carrying the ball here. And there was plenty of time left on the clock at that point, it was a huge mistake to resort to throwing the ball on 2-10, 3-13 and 4-13. If the offense was patient they would have ran the ball and setup a FG to make it a 1 score game with over 5 minutes left.

pheenix11 · Jan 23, 2011

No ring for you LT. Stay classy *****.

Deus Irae · Jan 23, 2011

RHbT76 said:
I don't particularly care what you believe. And I said before I would have opened up the first half with a running attack, I never suggested running for the entire game.

Given that the passing attack shredded the Jets for the first 2 drives, and that the Patriots were only stopped by bad plays they themselves made, you've now essentially told us that you'd be a trainwreck as an offensive coordinator.

RHbT76 · Jan 23, 2011

Looks like jetnation and gang green forums are closed to visitors tonight

WhiZa · Jan 23, 2011

coolworx said:
Ummm...
Aren't the Eagles the Eagles of the NFL?

Maybe you meant the Jets are the Eagles of the AFC.

Right, I should of clarified they are now the 2001-2004 Eagles of the NFL right now

pheenix11 · Jan 23, 2011

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJpje2dhanQ

RHbT76 · Jan 23, 2011

Deus Irae said:
Given that the passing attack shredded the Jets for the first 2 drives, and that the Patriots were only stopped by bad plays they themselves made, you've now essentially told us that you'd be a trainwreck as an offensive coordinator.

Actually those were more balanced drives than just passing and those 2 drives got us 3 our only points in the first half. We then abandoned the balanced approach for more shotgun and empty backfield and we didn't score again until close to the end of the 3rd quarter.

Meanwhile we have people saying the patriots running game only works when the defense focuses on Brady, but the Patriots shouldn't have ran the ball because the Jets were completely focused on Brady.

PATRIOTSFANINPA · Jan 23, 2011

WhiZa said:
Right, I should of clarified they are now the 2001-2004 Eagles of the NFL right now

The Eagles did eventually make the SB you know.

However I am not sure the Jets will

strongside · Jan 23, 2011

Re: Thats LT in a nutshell

He sucked. What a loser. On the other hand Sanchez can play.

WhiZa · Jan 23, 2011

Re: Thats LT in a nutshell

strongside said:
he sucked. What a loser. On the other hand sanchez can play in the california sand for the summer.

ftfy

123456

Deus Irae · Jan 23, 2011

RHbT76 said:
Yes, those 2 drives that got us 3 points, and we didn't score again until close to the end of the 3rd quarter.

Meanwhile we have people saying the patriots running game only works when the defense focuses on Brady, but the Patriots shouldn't have ran the ball because the Jets were completely focused on Brady.

The drives produced only 3 points because the Patriots called a screen pass against a team that was reeling and back on its heels, and Brady threw a terrible pass that was picked off, and then the team followed that up with a TD dropped in the end zone.

There's no use talking about this if you can't even admit the obvious about the start of the game. The plan was working up and down the field. The Jets couldn't stop the Patriots, until the Patriots screwed up.

Lansdowne · Jan 23, 2011

Somebody please tell me there's a clip or screencap of that ******* Santonio Holmes crying on the sideline.

RayClay · Jan 23, 2011

RHbT76 said:
When did I say we would score quickly? I don't consider that to be important in the least.

When have I said BJGE would make "game breaking runs"?

I don't particularly care what you believe. And I said before I would have opened up the first half with a running attack, I never suggested running for the entire game.

No, I don't really care about how was carrying the ball here. And there was plenty of time left on the clock at that point, it was a huge mistake to resort to throwing the ball on 2-10, 3-13 and 4-13. If the offense was patient they would have ran the ball and setup a FG to make it a 1 score game with over 5 minutes left.

Look, if you want to replay the game and have it come out the way you want, more power to you. They never stopped running the ball, Woodhead and BJ both ran it in the second half.

RHbT76 · Jan 23, 2011

Deus Irae said:
The drives produced only 3 points because the Patriots called a screen pass against a team that was reeling and back on its heels, and Brady threw a terrible pass, and then followed that up with a TD dropped in the end zone.

There's no use talking about this if you can't even admit the obvious about the start of the game. The plan was working up and down the field. The Jets couldn't stop the Patriots, until the Patriots screwed up.

Yes, the offense was using a balanced attack including a good amount of runs by Woodhead/BJGE which was working I agree. But that was abandoned for a pass happy offense focusing on lots of shotgun, empty backfield looks that got Brady sacked a lot and got us no where.

Patspsycho · Jan 23, 2011

RayClay said:
Look, if you want to replay the game and have it come out the way you want, more power to you. They never stopped running the ball, Woodhead and BJ both ran it in the second half.

Who's beating a dead horse?

BJGE ran it a total of 9 times. Woodhead ran a total of 14 times. Spin it however way you want to.

Deus Irae · Jan 23, 2011

RHbT76 said:
Yes, the offense was using a balanced attack including a good amount of runs by Woodhead/BJGE which was working I agree...

Thus demonstrating that your argument had no merit.

Patriotist · Jan 23, 2011

I actually felt pretty good about Pittsburgh's chances after Green Bay won because once they were in, the statistical probability of TWO Six-Seeds getting to the Super Bowl in the same year virtually guaranteed that the Jets were going to lose.

RayClay · Jan 23, 2011

Deus Irae said:
Given that the passing attack shredded the Jets for the first 2 drives, and that the Patriots were only stopped by bad plays they themselves made, you've now essentially told us that you'd be a trainwreck as an offensive coordinator.

I even posted at least three actual second half drives. I think we ran more as a percentage, than we did our first two almost successful ones. Some people are convinced they can pick every incomplete pass and turn it into a 10 yard run with their way back machine.

Here's a good sequence.

1st and 10 at NE 37 B.Green-Ellis left end to NE 45 for 8 yards (S.Ellis).
2nd and 2 at NE 45 D.Woodhead right guard to NE 46 for 1 yard (D.Harris).
3rd and 1 at NE 46 B.Green-Ellis left guard to NE 45 for -1 yards (B.Scott, D.Harris).

Wow, I wonder if the Jets defense played it different on 2nd and 2 and 3rd and 1?

BJ went from an 8 yard pc Juggernaut to a -1 in just two carries. Still a 3.5 average, for you playing the board game at home.

RayClay · Jan 23, 2011

Patspsycho said:
Who's beating a dead horse?

BJGE ran it a total of 9 times. Woodhead ran a total of 14 times. Spin it however way you want to.

I posted the actual second half drives. That's not spin, it's copy/paste.

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