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Its totally ludicrous for you ton think you know whether Brady conceeded defeat. Thats foolish. Find a different way to rationalize the loss so you don't look so idiotic.

LOL Andy, you're really too much sometimes. You'll note that I said the Tom Brady "I saw"--denoting that my observations were subjective to a degree, just like everyone else's. I suggest you become familiar with this very basic concept before you insult other posters and make yourself look foolish.
 
I saw this as well. There were definitely open receivers but Brady just for some reason didn't pull the trigger. And although the line did give up some legit sacks, quite a few of them was because Brady held on to the ball. And I too saw him ducking imaginary defenders. The guy was shook.

What was that about? He was really seeing ghost. The guy was just ducking, moving backs on two man rushes.
 
First of all, I'll say this again; Patriots fans don't really know what a bad quarterback performance looks like, as we haven't really seen one in several years. The number one job for the quarterback is to protect the football. After that, any big plays and above-average yardage per pass is a bonus. A bad quarterbacking performance is marked by frequent turnovers.

Brady is smart. He knows when the offense is not clicking. He knows when the defense has momentum and has them figured out. That's when you start to see him hesitating and making the lowest-risk throws possible. In a game like Sunday, it's easy for someone to look really bad in a game where the stakes were so high. Truth is, 90% of quarterbacks would have finished that game with 3 INTS; yes, they would have slung the ball for a few nice gains and highlight reel plays, but they wouldn't have won the game.

That said, the problem wasn't Brady's performance on on the field on Sunday, despite all of the media's obsession with him being "soft." Brady is not soft and was not soft. The problem was the preparation by the Patriots, with Brady included. After the game, Deion Branch said he expected the Jets to play man coverage. Really? So, in all their years as pros, the Patriots couldn't adjust to a zone coverage, and they've never seen anything like the defense they saw there? That's what's disappointing, because that is exactly why Belichick and Brady should give their teams the advantage. They've seen it all and should not be surprised by any type of defense.

The Patriots came down the field on the first two positions with some pretty great playcalling. They proved to the Jets that they can drive on them (although they didn't score) using a completely different gameplan from the 45-3 game. It was working to perfection. After that, they relied too much on overthinking the game and believing they needed to outfox the Jets in order to move the ball. Truth is, this was a very talented offense that should have scored 24+ points (let's be honest, they really scored 14) and moved the ball decently against any defensive formation. I chalk most of this up to a lack of preparation, lack of adjustments, and trying to be too smart in a game that would have been better suited to getting the ball to players in the flat and letting them win the quickness battles for consistent 6-8 yard gains.


Stop making excuses for Brady. He played awful. Irrespective of what defense the Jets played, Brady had open receivers that he missed. Whether he had 2 seconds or 10 seconds to throw the ball, his job is to find the open man which he couldn't. When he plays well, he is finding the open receiver whether the defense is zone or man. So how can we make excuses for him when he simply can't find them even though there are open receivers. Jaworski explained it, but I saw it too. Welker was open several times in the middle of the field on slants and Tate was also open several times, one of which Brady overthrew him. Not to mention, Woodhead was open in the flat a few times as well.

I can't blame the coaches because the players played flat. The coaches put the players in position to succeed and there were plays to be had. Yeah, I think it was dumb to bench Welker in the beginning of the game, but there were tons of plays to be made after the fact. I can't blame this on the defense either, because I was never convinced that this was a legit top defense. I remember a thread someone started a month ago where posters were actually saying they would rather have this defense over the Jets. LOL. If you can't rush the passer, you're a lame duck defense in today's NFL. At least the Jets will scheme a pass rush effectively. Our pressure defense is lame, but it's not like we haven't been seeing the same crap for the past 5 years.

The main culprit for this loss is Brady. It was up to our offense to carry this team and they sure seemed poise to do so. What's most disappointing is that we've heard analysts and other fans say that if you hit Brady he'll wilt under pressure. I've always defended him and ALWAYS had excuses. But after this last lost, their is no excuse for the way Brady performed, other than he choked.
 
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If Crumpler and Branch make the plays they are paid to make and BB makes the decisions he is paid to make, we win and this thread does not exist.
 
Belichick used to be the master of adjustments at half time-what has happened? ...

I might be wrong but I thought many former players debunked the whole concept of half time adjustments.
 
If Crumpler and Branch make the plays they are paid to make and BB makes the decisions he is paid to make, we win and this thread does not exist.

But I was told Branch is a magically clutch performer who steps his game up when it matters and is inherently a "winner". What you talking bout Willis

This thread is a pretty big fail, I'd blame Brady for 8 minutes of clock in the 4th quarter while down 10 if and ONLY if he wasn't just doing what the coaches told him to and the INT. But he did more than enough to win.

I mean he's an overthrow and crumpler drop away from leading us to 14-0 going into the 2nd quarter. The Jets defense is really good, Brady is one human and BoB must be stripped of all OC duties.
 
If Crumpler and Branch make the plays they are paid to make and BB makes the decisions he is paid to make, we win and this thread does not exist.

Brady choked. Sorry to say, but he did. He hates pressure, and the Jets weren't even blitzing but they got Brady to feel the pressure. The Jets had great coverage too, but Brady definitively could have done a better job hitting his receivers.

Seriously, we're going to try to blame Crumpler and Branch? We already knew Brady was our biggest playmaker on offense. If people want to compare him to the greatest quarterbacks of all time when he's winning, then people better be ready for some major scrutiny when he puts up his third straight mediocre post-season performance.

We can't pin this loss on a bunch of rookies and an old tight end who had 6 receptions this year to protect our star quarterback from criticism.
 
Brady choked. Sorry to say, but he did. He hates pressure, and the Jets weren't even blitzing but they got Brady to feel the pressure. The Jets had great coverage too, but Brady definitively could have done a better job hitting his receivers.

Seriously, we're going to try to blame Crumpler and Branch? We already knew Brady was our biggest playmaker on offense. If people want to compare him to the greatest quarterbacks of all time when he's winning, then people better be ready for some major scrutiny when he puts up his third straight mediocre post-season performance.

We can't pin this loss on a bunch of rookies and an old tight end who had 6 receptions this year to protect our star quarterback from criticism.

I'll still compare Brady with the greatest QB's since they've all had uglier choke jobs in the playoffs and more of them.
 
Brady choked. Sorry to say, but he did. He hates pressure, and the Jets weren't even blitzing but they got Brady to feel the pressure. The Jets had great coverage too, but Brady definitively could have done a better job hitting his receivers.

Seriously, we're going to try to blame Crumpler and Branch? We already knew Brady was our biggest playmaker on offense. If people want to compare him to the greatest quarterbacks of all time when he's winning, then people better be ready for some major scrutiny when he puts up his third straight mediocre post-season performance.

We can't pin this loss on a bunch of rookies and an old tight end who had 6 receptions this year to protect our star quarterback from criticism.

You are totally correct. Sometimes he chokes- pure and simple. Remember the playoff game against Denver in '05. How many interceptions? 3 or 4.
He choked again last year against the Saints. More interceptions. I think Brady is very inconsistent. Sometimes great, sometimes bad. Plus he's stubborn and egotistical. He admits that he ran the clock down in the 7 minute 45 second 4th qtr drive, figuring they'd get the ball back again in time to win. Meanwhile he had already been previously stopped twice in the 2nd half.
 
Yeah, that guy Brady sucks. We should get rid of him.:rolleyes:
 
LOL Andy, you're really too much sometimes. You'll note that I said the Tom Brady "I saw"--denoting that my observations were subjective to a degree, just like everyone else's. I suggest you become familiar with this very basic concept before you insult other posters and make yourself look foolish.

Subjective or not, it's pretty hard to accuse Tom Brady of "conceding defeat." You can criticize his performance but to impugn his effort is pretty questionable.
 
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He wasn't off imo.
The whole pats team was off.

Stupid benching
stupid fake punt
stupid broken tackles that made braylon edwards look like marshawn lynch
stupid onside kick coverage
stupid guard PLAY
STUPID 4th quarter 7 minute drive.

The whole team played bad
 
LOL Andy, you're really too much sometimes. You'll note that I said the Tom Brady "I saw"--denoting that my observations were subjective to a degree, just like everyone else's. I suggest you become familiar with this very basic concept before you insult other posters and make yourself look foolish.
Right, you think you can read Bradys mind, and that makes me look foolish
 
Stop making excuses for Brady. He played awful. Irrespective of what defense the Jets played, Brady had open receivers that he missed. Whether he had 2 seconds or 10 seconds to throw the ball, his job is to find the open man which he couldn't. When he plays well, he is finding the open receiver whether the defense is zone or man. So how can we make excuses for him when he simply can't find them even though there are open receivers. Jaworski explained it, but I saw it too. Welker was open several times in the middle of the field on slants and Tate was also open several times, one of which Brady overthrew him. Not to mention, Woodhead was open in the flat a few times as well.

I can't blame the coaches because the players played flat. The coaches put the players in position to succeed and there were plays to be had. Yeah, I think it was dumb to bench Welker in the beginning of the game, but there were tons of plays to be made after the fact. I can't blame this on the defense either, because I was never convinced that this was a legit top defense. I remember a thread someone started a month ago where posters were actually saying they would rather have this defense over the Jets. LOL. If you can't rush the passer, you're a lame duck defense in today's NFL. At least the Jets will scheme a pass rush effectively. Our pressure defense is lame, but it's not like we haven't been seeing the same crap for the past 5 years.

The main culprit for this loss is Brady. It was up to our offense to carry this team and they sure seemed poise to do so. What's most disappointing is that we've heard analysts and other fans say that if you hit Brady he'll wilt under pressure. I've always defended him and ALWAYS had excuses. But after this last lost, their is no excuse for the way Brady performed, other than he choked.
The entire premise is flawed because you simply cannot see who is open from a TV view.
 
He wasn't off imo.
The whole pats team was off.

Stupid benching
stupid fake punt
stupid broken tackles that made braylon edwards look like marshawn lynch
stupid onside kick coverage
stupid guard PLAY
STUPID 4th quarter 7 minute drive.

The whole team played bad

28-21, 7 pts. Yet the whole team played bad? You put the Jets offense in the red zone 2x to start. They started on the 50 one time. Yet the whole team played bad? Sanchez only had 194 yards passing because he only had to do 1 long drive from his own 30 for 7pts.
You lost because of an interception, and Chung messed up his own call to fake punt, Thats it.

You have a right to be angry, but You might be throwing the baby out with the bath water here.
 
28-21, 7 pts. Yet the whole team played bad? You put the Jets offense in the red zone 2x to start. They started on the 50 one time. Yet the whole team played bad? Sanchez only had 194 yards passing because he only had to do 1 long drive from his own 30 for 7pts.
You lost because of an interception, and Chung messed up his own call to fake punt, Thats it.

You have a right to be angry, but You might be throwing the baby out with the bath water here.

HOW DID THEy LOSE Off A INTERCEPTION THAT THE INTERCEPTING TEAM FAILED TO SCORE OFF OF? where's the logic in that.

If none of those things i listed didn't happened, the score would has been a lot less
 
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HOW DID THEy LOSE Off A INTERCEPTION THAT THE INTERCEPTING TEAM FAILED TO SCORE OFF OF? where's the logic in that.

If none of those things i listed didn't happened, the score would has been a lot less

Patriots winning formula this year was get ahead early, get their opponent on their heels, force mistakes, and roll. The pick and Crump's drop on two good early drives hurt them that way. it wasn't everything, but it was a big part of it.
 
I'm not sure why Brady didn't take off on a run (albeit he's as fast as a turtle) given some of the room the Jets were affording us to take away the passing lanes. There was easy first down yards to be picked up.

The team was totally unprepared for the weekend. The problem is that has happened in the last three playoff games the Patriots have played.
 
HOW DID THEy LOSE Off A INTERCEPTION THAT THE INTERCEPTING TEAM FAILED TO SCORE OFF OF? where's the logic in that.

If none of those things i listed didn't happened, the score would has been a lot less

7 pts, you started an NFL team on your own 30 2x against a "bend don't break' defense, effectively eliminating the "bend" part, and just hoped they would not "break". They broke once, and wasted valuable clock. If you had punted the ball , chances are Sanchez would have never beat it down field for 7pts, and if the interception never happened, you would have had 3 minutes more on the clock, at least I believe that right. Brady with 3 minutes is a life time. Just how I see it.

If everything failed, I would expect a larger margin in the score. You know , like the Seahawks #23 offense scoring 41pts on the NFLs #2 ranked pass defense.
 
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Big Ben makes a lot of plays than Brady failed to make in face of pressure.

I don't know what's up with him (Brady) these days. The last 2 years watching him he always ducks to the floor with the slightest pressure.

His whole shtick of not cutting his hair, supposingly to please his wife just seems too individualistic for a superstar team leader. I don't see Manning or Brees doing that.

I don't like what I am seeing from Brady these days; I remember that he kissed Giselle before that fateful loss to Colts; he kissed her just minutes before the kickoff of the 2006 AFC championship game. After Brady choked in the 4th qtr (not able to convert 3rd downs), I kept thinking this woman can NOT be good for him. (just a gut feeling). It has been the same pattern with Brady, soft, and choking, we had heart break after heart break. In the past, I have always taken Brady's side; but now I start to feel for Bill for not having a true leader. Brady is simply too childish, too selfish, and too soft.

Football toughness and Hollywood glitz; You can not have both.

7 pts, you started an NFL team on your own 30 2x against a "bend don't break' defense, effectively eliminating the "bend" part, and just hoped they would not "break". They broke once, and wasted valuable clock. If you had punted the ball , chances are Sanchez would have never beat it down field for 7pts, and if the interception never happened, you would have had 3 minutes more on the clock, at least I believe that right. Brady with 3 minutes is a life time. Just how I see it.

If everything failed, I would expect a larger margin in the score.
 
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