Mikel Leshoure draft projections

SanAngeloState · Dec 30, 2010

I like Leshoure too...he runs low and hard, keeps his body over his feet if that makes any sense...doesn't remind me of maroney...kind of like bjge more.

I think the FB out of usc havili or whatever would be a good pickup too. Not great speed but that's sometimes overrated

Ochmed Jones · Dec 30, 2010

SanAngeloState said:
I like Leshoure too...he runs low and hard, keeps his body over his feet if that makes any sense...doesn't remind me of maroney...kind of like bjge more.

I think the FB out of usc havili or whatever would be a good pickup too. Not great speed but that's sometimes overrated

I really don't like the idea of using a first round pick on a RB, but Leshoure really looked good last night. Regardless of what RB BB picks, you can rest assured that BB will not take a fumbler.

If we take any FB, it has to be Owen Marcecic of Stanford. What a beast! He plays offense, defense and ST. He was born to play in our organization.

West Philly Patriot · Dec 30, 2010

reamer said:
Interesting, considering he has quite a few long, long runs (75+ yard runs in three different games this year). I think he accelerates very well. He's sudden, powerful, and always moves forward. I don't know how you can average over 6 yards a carry without some sort of burst. :idontgetit:

I only say that because he's been clocked as low as 4.6 As far as the long runs it's the college game even BJGE ripped off some long runs in college. For every future pro athlete there are guys who will never step onto a field after college.

Leshoure just seems faster in real time. I watched some of the beef o'brady bowl and he didn't jump out at me on those runs But he is impressive for a man his size and would be happy if he slipped to us somehow.

I thought leshoure may have flown under the radar which is why i liked him but as others have said he will be a sexy pick come april.

West Philly Patriot · Dec 30, 2010

dryheat44 said:
Really? Those are the measureables everyone is thinking about? Not me. Give me a 5'10"-5'11" guy who goes 215-220 (Delone Carter, maybe?). Very few of those tall guys have long successful careers. There's Eddie George, and .........

More so the 230 not the 6-1. Like I said bigger/stronger than woodhead and faster than BJGE who has had a lot of chances for big runs that a faster back would have broke away with. I'm nitpicking tho as I love what BJGE has done for us this year.

West Philly Patriot · Dec 30, 2010

Ochmed Jones said:
I really don't like the idea of using a first round pick on a RB, but Leshoure really looked good last night. Regardless of what RB BB picks, you can rest assured that BB will not take a fumbler.

If we take any FB, it has to be Owen Marcecic of Stanford. What a beast! He plays offense, defense and ST. He was born to play in our organization.

I agree with you and pat chick's assesment. No way we go RB in the 1st considering they will be going to a RBBC. I think FB will also get addressed due to the fact we are going back to the ball control offense. We had no need of a FB in the spread.

I haven't really looked at FB's I will probably do so the closer the draft gets to see who i like. I have been focusing on who we take round 1-3. De's, OLB and OL's O my!!

Taxed in Maine · Dec 30, 2010

I agree that another RB or two in the mid-late rounds is the way to go. I am very happy with BJGE and Woody.

A guy I have been interested in that noone seems to talk much about is Jamie Harper. 5'11-230 4.5 guy, north-south runner with great hands.
I am thinking he could be had in the 3rd round?

CTHuskies · Dec 30, 2010

BelichickFan said:
230 pounds but he runs too much like Maroney for my liking. I do want 1-2 young RB to replace Morris and Taylor but I'm not sure this guy is the one I want, especially in the second round.

I concur. That was my thought last night too!

cupofjoe1962 · Dec 30, 2010

ESPN insiders have access to Scouts inc - rankings.

They have Mikel Leshoure as the 8th best running back with a 71 rating.
He is the 100th best overall prospect.

NAME POS HT WT SCHOOL GRADE POS RANK OVR RANK
Mark Ingram RB 5'10" 215 Alabama 92 1 24
Ryan Williams RB 5'10" 210 Virginia Tech 87 2 39
Daniel Thomas RB 6'2" 228 Kansas State 83 3 51
Demarco Murray RB 6'1" 217 Oklahoma 79 4 67
Kendall Hunter RB 5'8" 202 Oklahoma State 76 5 78
LaMichael James RB 5'8½" 185 Oregon 73 6 89
Shane Vereen RB 5'9¾" 203 California 72 7 95
Mikel Leshoure RB 6'0" 227 Illinois 71 8 100
Noel Devine RB 5'7⅝" 177 West Virginia 70 9 104
Dion Lewis RB 5'7½" 195 Pittsburgh 69 10 109
Jacquizz Rodgers RB 5'7" 190 Oregon State 66 11 119
Delone Carter RB 5'8" 219 Syracuse 64 12 130
Bilal Powell RB 5'11¾" 216 Louisville 61 13 137
Graig Cooper RB 6'0" 208 Miami (FL) 58 14 148
Anthony Allen RB 6'0" 230 Georgia Tech 56 15
John Clay RB 6'1" 248 Wisconsin 54 16
Derrick Locke RB 5'8" 181 Kentucky 51 17
Brandon Saine RB 6'0" 217 Ohio State 50 18
Roy Helu RB 5'11½" 223 Nebraska 49 19
Evan Royster RB 6'0" 212 Penn State 48 20
Vailala Taua RB 5'9½" 211 Nevada 43 21
Mario Fannin RB 5'10⅜" 230 Auburn 42 22
Damien Berry RB 5'10¾" 210 Miami (FL) 39 23
Baron Batch RB 5'9" 202 Texas Tech 34 24
Nicolas Grigsby RB 5'10¾" 195 Arizona 31 25
Armando Allen RB 5'9" 198 Notre Dame 30 26
Jay Finley RB 5'10⅞" 213 Baylor 30 27
Allen Bradford RB 5'11" 234 USC 30 28
Da'Rel Scott RB 5'11" 198 Maryland 30 29
Emmanuel Moody RB 6'0" 209 Florida 30 30
Donald Buckram RB 5'9½" 194 UTEP 30 31
Eddie Wide RB 5'9½" 197 Utah 30 32
Shaun Draughn RB 6'0" 205 North Carolina 30 33
John Griffin RB 5'11½" 206 Massachusetts 30 34
C.J. Gable RB 6'0" 208 USC 30 35
Dujuan Harris RB 5'7" 197 Troy 30 36
Matthew Asiata RB 5'11" 226 Utah 30 37
Richard Murphy RB 6'0½" 207 LSU 30 38
Brandon Thermilus RB 5'11" 223 Buffalo 30 39
Josh Nesbitt RB 6'0½" 218 Georgia Tech 30 40
Derrick Washington RB 5'11½" 216 Missouri 30 41
Justin Bartlett RB 6'0½" 243 Carroll (MT) 30 42
Joshua Adams RB 5'10⅜" 181 Wake Forest 30 43
Vondrell McGee RB 5'10" 203 Texas 30 44
Johnny White RB 5'1" 205 North Carolina 30 45
Jonathan Williams RB 5'11½" 217 East Carolina 30 46
Henry Harris RB 5'8" 187 Southeast Missouri State 30 47
Wendell Williams RB 6'1" 217 Eastern Illinois 30 48
Jeramy Avery RB 5'8¾" 175 Boise State 30 49
Tavares Pressley RB 6'0" 197 Florida State 30 50
Kodi Burns RB 5'11½" 207 Auburn 30 51
John Goebel RB 6'0½" 217 Cincinnati 30 52
Ricky Dobbs RB 6'0⅛" 200 Navy 30 53
Dwight Dasher RB 5'10" 207 Middle Tennessee State 30 54
Chad Spann RB 5'7⅝" 202 Northern Illinois 30 55
Chase Reynolds RB 5'10⅞" 196 Montana 30 56
Alexander Robinson RB 5'9" 187 Iowa State 30 57
Deangelo Branche RB 5'10⅜" 196 Norfolk State 30 58
Alexander Green RB 6'0" 227 Hawaii 30 59
Devon Moore RB 5'8" 192 Appalachian State 30 60
Isaac Odim RB 5'11" 215 Minnesota-Duluth 30 61
Chevon Walker RB 5'9⅝" 199 Eastern Illinois 30 62
Terrence Holt RB 5'5" 175 Austin Peay 30 63
Fredrick Winborn RB 5'10⅜" 196 Texas A&M-Kingsville 30 64
Kyle Minett RB 5'9½" 216 South Dakota State 30 65
Rudell Small RB 5'8⅝" 187 Jacksonville 30 66
Steven Robinson RB 5'10⅞" 215 Hampton 30 67
Xavier Martin RB 5'8" 178 Fordham 30 68
Gino Gordon RB 5'9¾" 192 Harvard 30 69
Carl-Hans Volny RB 5'9⅝" 197 Central Michigan 30 70
Philip Sylvester RB 5'8¾" 194 Florida A&M 30 71
Richard Medlin RB 5'11" 207 Fayetteville State 30 72
Connell Davis RB 6'1" 202 Texas A&M-Kingsville 30 73
Anthony Stewart RB 5'6⅝" 174 Central Missouri State 20 74
Jamad Williams RB 5'8" 202 Tulsa 20 75
Phillip Tanner RB 5'10⅝" 209 Middle Tennessee State 20 76
Chantz Staden RB 5'9¾" 203 Washington State 20 77
Courtland Marriner RB 5'7" 182 William & Mary 20 78
D'Andre Webb RB 5'9⅝" 203 West Chester 20 79
Michael Brown RB 5'6⅝" 185 Furman 20 80
Trevar Deed RB 5'9" 206 Delta State 20 81
Lironnie Davis RB 6'0½" 254 Albany State (GA) 20 82
Griff Yancey RB 5'10¾" 202 James Madison 20 83
Donald Babers RB 5'9" 188 Prairie View A&M 20 84
Winston Thompson RB 5'7⅝" 192 Clark Atlanta 20 85
Patrick Riley RB 5'9¾" 181 Benedict 20 86
James Potempa RB 5'6" 177 Eastern Illinois 20 87
Henry Sailes RB 5'6" 169 Tennessee Tech 20 88
Christopher Evans RB 5'11½" 205 Samford 20 89
Anthony Boykins RB 5'8" 209 Kentucky State 20 90
Christopher Massey RB 5'10¼" 218 South Carolina State 20 91
Jocques Crawford RB 5'10¾" 234 Tennessee Tech 20 92

Off The Grid · Dec 30, 2010

patsfaninpa said:
Isn't Aaron Hernandez basically our h-back? He's not a TE in the way use one. If you play a fb, it's to pick up a yard or two on 3rd and short. In most other schemes you'd have to take Hernandez or Gronk out. We've even run Aaron a few times and he's done it well. I just don't think FB is a position in our offense.

patchick said:
Hernandez is often used like a WR, I think. But I agree, BB hasn't been carrying a classic fullback for a reason. That's why Havili is the one FB on my shopping list -- I think he has the athleticism to line up at RB and be a threat both running and catching.

The Game is changing, and it requires that we expand our vocabulary, I think.

Aaron Hernandez is what I'm inclined to call a Wing End, and a STUNNING one.

Rob Gronkowski is a Wing Back, and an amazing Wing Back, for one so young.

Alge Crumpler is, of course, a Tight End, and an utter BEAST.

Stanley Havili and Peyton Hillis are simply Full Backs, in the Classic sense, but we can no longer call them Full Backs, can we ~ ?? ~ any more than we can call a Libertarian a "Liberal", as the inference has changed, dramatically.

"Full Back" now elicits visions of Owen Marecic and my BOY, Sam Gash.

Stanley Havili and Peyton Hillis ~ as well as Shaun Chapas, Charles Clay, and ~ above all ~ Marion Fannin and Owen Schmitt ~ are what I now prefer to call Swing Backs: "Full Service" Full Backs, if you will.

Off The Grid · Dec 30, 2010

Give Me

~ TB Danny WoodHead ~ Super Lighting Bug SLASHER!!

~ SB Owen Schmitt ~ Godzilla!!

~ FB Owen Marecic ~ THRASHER. BLASTER.

~ TB DaRel Scott ~ SLASHER. Runs like a MASHER. ~ 5th Rounder

~ HB Allen Bradford ~ Hard Yard MASHER. ~ 6th Rounder

~ SB Marion Fannin ~ Full Service Swing Back. ~ 7th Rounder

patchick · Dec 30, 2010

Off The Grid said:
The Game is changing, and it requires that we expand our vocabulary, I think.

Aaron Hernandez is what I'm inclined to call a Wing End, and a STUNNING one.

Rob Gronkowski is a Wing Back, and an amazing Wing Back, for one so young.

Alge Crumpler is, of course, a Tight End, and an utter BEAST.

Methinks you've taken your fondness for neologism too far. Any terminology which takes the label "Tight End" away from Gronk is overthinking in a big, big way. He's the dictionary definition.

sg14 · Dec 30, 2010

neologism?? Really??

patchick said:
Methinks you've taken your fondness for neologism too far. Any terminology which takes the label "Tight End" away from Gronk is overthinking in a big, big way. He's the dictionary definition.

patchick · Dec 30, 2010

sg14 said:
neologism?? Really??

No good? Maybe we should coin a new word for it!

Off The Grid · Dec 30, 2010

Off The Grid said:
The Game is changing, and it requires that we expand our vocabulary, I think.

Aaron Hernandez is what I'm inclined to call a Wing End, and a STUNNING one.

Rob Gronkowski is a Wing Back, and an amazing Wing Back, for one so young.

Alge Crumpler is, of course, a Tight End, and an utter BEAST.

Stanley Havili and Peyton Hillis are simply Full Backs, in the Classic sense, but we can no longer call them Full Backs, can we ~ ?? ~ any more than we can call a Libertarian a "Liberal", as the inference has changed, dramatically.

"Full Back" now elicits visions of Owen Marecic and my BOY, Sam Gash.

Stanley Havili and Peyton Hillis ~ as well as Shaun Chapas, Charles Clay, and ~ above all ~ Marion Fannin and Owen Schmitt ~ are what I now prefer to call Swing Backs: "Full Service" Full Backs, if you will.

patchick said:
Methinks you've taken your fondness for neologism too far. Any terminology which takes the label "Tight End" away from Gronk is overthinking in a big, big way. He's the dictionary definition.

How is it possible to take neologism too far??

And let us be clear: I never said Gronk wasn't a Tight End, though that's a very reasonable out take on my statement.

I am merely proposing ~ for the sake of clarity ~ to break down Tight End roles, as we now clearly have 3 kinds.

And as you acknowledge my pursuit of neologism ~ something I announced in my previous post ~ why would you think I'd give a rat's @$$ what the "dictionary definition" has to say?

My precise point is that we need to disrupt current definitions, as they are not longer sufficient.

The Dictionary, after all, is not a rule book.

It is a record.

As such, it requires constant updating...which is precisely the point of my original post.

Gronkowski IS, clearly, a Wing Back ~ the unspeakably vapid recent term that I would like to exterminate is "H Back" ~ but "Wing Back" , my esteemed colleague, is an ANCIENT term...and INFINITELY more savory.

Box_O_Rocks · Dec 30, 2010

Bigger backs:

Delone Carter RB 5'8" 219 Syracuse -- Productive runner, I'm not sure how good a receiver he is since the handful of receptions I found could have been screens.

Bilal Powell RB 5'11¾" 216 Louisville -- the first game I saw him in this season he made me think of Cory Dillon running "angry." Good receiver. His downside may be mental/fumbles per this media note found on NFL Draft Scout PLAYERS TO WATCH: RB Bilal Powell - If Powell is going to fumble the ball, the coaching staff would at least like for him to not let that affect the rest of the game, as it has throughout his college career. That was the most positive sign in the season opener, which saw him run effectively both before and after he put the ball on the ground.

Anthony Allen RB 6'0" 230 Georgia Tech -- I watched him the other night in their bowl game, the kid hits top gear fast, lead blocks, and is a good receiver. He's also played well in Louisville's pass happy offense before transferring to GT and playing well there.

Vailala Taua RB 5'9½" 211 Nevada -- Productive kid, decent receiver.

Damien Berry RB 5'10¾" 210 Miami (FL) -- He caught my eye as a strong runner earlier this season.

John Goebel RB 6'0½" 217 Cincinnati -- I've liked kid as a change of pace back at Cincinnati behind Isaiah Pead. He's an okay receiver too.

Scatbacks:
LaMichael James RB 5'8½" 185 Oregon
Jacquizz Rodgers RB 5'7" 190 Oregon State
Chad Spann RB 5'7⅝" 202 Northern Illinois
Chase Reynolds RB 5'10⅞" 196 Montana

Three juniors whom I didn't see in the ESPN listing above and whom some have speculated may come out early:
Jordan Todman, UConn
Isaiah Pead, Cincinnati
Doug Martin, Boise State

I'd love any of them.

dryheat44 · Dec 31, 2010

reamer said:
Except two of the only guys in history with 2000 yard seasons were over 6'1, with ****erson measuring in at 6'3 according to NFL.com. Eric ****erson, RB at NFL.com

Peterson, one of the best runners in the game today, is 6'1.5. *Adrian Peterson*|*Oklahoma,*RB*:*2007 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile

Well, look, For my money, Eric ****erson at full health was the best RB I've ever seen. I don't think he was 6'3" (probably 6' 1.5" or so), but if we can draft that combination of power, grace, endurance, and intelligence, I'm all for it. I mean, his second year in the league was, to me, the best RB season ever in the modern NFL. The guy could process the game as it was happening the way Brady does, and he was a freakin' gazelle who could set up a linebacker and make an ankle-breaking cut running full speed and could touch the ball 400 times a year without breaking down. The only weakness to his career was that he didn't love playing football, he always saw it as a job where he could make a lot of money. He couldn't wait to retire and not get hit 25 times a game.

I like Peterson too, but, like Brandon Jacobs, we're already seeing his body break down.

My favorite bigger back is the K-State guy, Thomas. If BB feels he needs an RB to fit that profile, he should be available Day 3.

patsfaninpa · Dec 31, 2010

dryheat44 said:
Well, look, For my money, Eric ****erson at full health was the best RB I've ever seen. I don't think he was 6'3" (probably 6' 1.5" or so), but if we can draft that combination of power, grace, endurance, and intelligence, I'm all for it. I mean, his second year in the league was, to me, the best RB season ever in the modern NFL. The guy could process the game as it was happening the way Brady does, and he was a freakin' gazelle who could set up a linebacker and make an ankle-breaking cut running full speed and could touch the ball 400 times a year without breaking down. The only weakness to his career was that he didn't love playing football, he always saw it as a job where he could make a lot of money. He couldn't wait to retire and not get hit 25 times a game.

I like Peterson too, but, like Brandon Jacobs, we're already seeing his body break down.

My favorite bigger back is the K-State guy, Thomas. If BB feels he needs an RB to fit that profile, he should be available Day 3.

Anyone else you like playing over the next day or two? I enjoy your draft analysis. What a draft class 83; 6 hall of famers; Elway, ****erson, B. Matthews, Jim Kelly, Dan Marino and Darrell Green. Curt Warner might have been too if he didn't tear his knee up. ****erson was probably the best pure runner ever.Apologies to Jim Brown and maybe OJ. But, Walter Payton was a better running back. Because he could catch the ball, block, and even throw it on occasion. All the while being nearly just as good at running the ball.

West Philly Patriot · Dec 31, 2010

Off The Grid said:
Give Me

~ TB Danny WoodHead ~ Super Lighting Bug SLASHER!!

~ SB Owen Schmitt ~ Godzilla!!

~ FB Owen Marecic ~ THRASHER. BLASTER.

~ TB DaRel Scott ~ SLASHER. Runs like a MASHER. ~ 5th Rounder

~ HB Allen Bradford ~ Hard Yard MASHER. ~ 6th Rounder

~ SB Marion Fannin ~ Full Service Swing Back. ~ 7th Rounder

I don't think there is any way Fannin falls to round seis.

sg14 · Dec 31, 2010

OK,, I had to look up this word, neologism

It can mean crafting new words.

It also can mean
" meaningless words being used by a psychotic".

Not sure which applies here.

patchick said:
No good? Maybe we should coin a new word for it!

MVPatsfan13 · Jan 1, 2011

Since this thread seems to be a general RB draft one:

dryheat44 said:
My favorite bigger back is the K-State guy, Thomas. If BB feels he needs an RB to fit that profile, he should be available Day 3.

You're talking about Daniel Thomas, right? Just an FYI, I think hes risen in rating recently, as I've seen him as high as the #2 RB coming out. I liked him at the beginning of the season, but since BJGE has stepped up to the power back role and Thomas' stock has risen, I dont know if hes going to be worth the pic hes taken with(1st-2nd Rd) from a Pats POV. He'd just split time with BJGE & Woodhead(though that would make one hell of a trio:rocker

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