Thoughts on Possible Moss return in 2011?

CheeseMonkeys said:

I don't care what anyone says, Randy Moss is still my favorite non patriot player.

Click to expand...

MoLewisrocks said:

Think about what you just said... Keeping him involved and engaged and protecting him from emotional insult and injury and potential disconnect just became a draining exercise in diminishing returns. That will never change because Randy is who he is. An emotionally fragile guy who doesn't have the mentally tough makeup or physicality for that matter that this team knows you need at your core irrespective of talent if your goal is to win championships.

I don't doubt he goes into the HOF as a Patriot. I doubt many fans in Minny will shed a tear after this. He'll probably ask Bill to present him. Who else would?? But it's over here from a playing standpoint. Been there, done that, got as much as we could, extracted added value by acting pre emptively and it's just a memory now. And no matter how fond that memory is for some here, Bill isn't an emotional guy when it comes to making football business decisions. Which is why he moved Moss and moved this team on from Moss when he did.

Click to expand...

IcyPatriot said:

So who would you dump next year to take Moss back?

Welker ... you're top slot receiver?

Edelman ... Welker's backup?

Tate ... you're one of the best in the league return players?

Price ... you would give up a decent draft pick for uncertainty?

Branch ... Well maybe if he truly has nothing left ... but it's a tough call.

granted none of them ever will be Moss or even a % of Moss ... but all those players are team players ... can you be certain that Randy would return as a team player? IMO ... I don't think that's more than a 50/50 call Unless Randy truly sees himself as a decoy.

if he accepts that he is a professional decoy sometimes red zone player then IMO he might be worth a risk. There are few HOF players who are satisfied with diminishing returns. It is rare to see that ... they are more marketable in the real world when they go out at or near the top.

Click to expand...

MoLewisrocks said:

I don't doubt he goes into the HOF as a Patriot.

Click to expand...

Bonzo said:

No way at this point Moss gets the FA payday he thought he was due. With his dramatically diminished production (<3 rec and <40 yds p/ game), I just don't see how he will command the big money offers from other teams that some are suggesting.

Our roster is not so stacked at wide receiver that we have no room for a Randy Moss, even in a reduced, "role player"-type capacity.

Also, enough with the "burnt bridges" business. (See: Branch, Deion) If BB thinks Moss has (at least somewhat) learned his lesson, then it's clear he can basically have him next year if he wants him. Granted, that's a big "if" . . .

Click to expand...

Moss' value isn't what you've been led to believe it is.

More importantly, winning at a high level in the NFL isn't about collecting individual talent. It's about building a team. Somewhere in the middle of the Moss era you all forgot that. Thankfully, Belichick remembered just in the nick of time.

Sure, Moss runs off safeties. Sure, he comes up with some jaw-dropping catches. But if that skill set can only get you 18 points against an unproven defense in a game you need to win to basically save your season . . . then maybe that skill set isn't as important as you think it is.

And in the meantime Moss' mere presence simply corrodes your foundation. It's hard to describe, but if you want to have a tough, clutch, resilient football team, then you're best not having Moss on it. He's just not tough, clutch or resilient. He doesn't play that way and he doesn't approach his job that way. And too many young players look up to him. Whether he's a captain (as he was in New England) or not, he's always going to be a prominent presence in any locker room he's in. And if things aren't going well (as is often the case in the NFL), he's not going to pull your team in the right direction.

When the going gets tough, Moss simply gets going. On Sunday he officially became the first Minnesota player to bail off the Vikings' sinking ship. And there are still nine games to go. Good luck the rest of the way, Brad.

That's what happens when you bring in Randy Moss. You sell your soul in exchange for a safety lined up 10 yards deeper than normal.

Thankfully, the Patriots made the right choice: A tighter safety in exchange for a stronger team.

Don't you understand yet?

Click to expand...

AzPatsFan said:

Randy would be greeted back with open arms.

Provided that is that he comes in for the money Belichick decided he was now worth, and not the inflated money from when he was in his Prime. Belichick has his CAP budget, to provide talent for a complete Team,and won't deviate much from it. Players whether they like it or not, must fit into it, or go elsewhere.

Moss held out for his customary salary and talked himself out of town. I think he is wrestling with the concept of reduced money. The Vikings are confirming Belichick's appraisal and have not signed Moss to an extension and the dollars he is used to getting.

Randy Moss is an Unrestricted Free Agent after the 2010 season. He can sign with whoever he wants.

It is not like Randy doesn't have millions stashed away. He really doesn't need $10 million/year. It is simply Randy's pride. He is discovering no one will pay him the big bucks, which is valuable information to have.

He rejected signing for less dollars, as it might make him look the fool, and business is business. It makes Belichick's money offer seem okay. He definitely enjoyed playing here. So if the money is the same every where, why not sign with the Patriots, where he would like to be?

Click to expand...

Silver said:

Emotionally, yes I would like to see him back. But BB being a "what's best for the team" kind of coach, I dont see it happening.

Click to expand...

CheeseMonkeys said:

I think if he can accept that the offense doesn't revolve around him anymore maybe he could still be a decent option at reciever even in 2011 and beyond. He has shown that he still has amazing hands and he is still a big target.

Click to expand...

Dr Pain said:

The offense doesn’t revolve around him but the other teams defense does.

Click to expand...