Re: Well i made it back to MA alive from the game today..some comments/thoughts from
Nah..I disagree with you.
There are more MA's in the NY area than vice virsca.
True, many NYers go to college in Boston, that's it.
Boston is not a transplant area like DC, nor is the financial capital that NY is.
So it is much more common to have people, grown ups, from MA relocating to the NY area for jobs, than vice verca.
The percent of Boston's population is more homogenous and Boston market based than NY, even with the colleges, and let me remind you college kids are in MA short term and don't have the $$$$$ to get into games like relocating adults would.
Also, when the Red Sox are in NY, it just seems like they have a 20% of the crowd, but it never seems like the Pats can get that in NY.
Which is weird because the Steelers/Dolphins/Eagles/and Cowboys ALL bring out large amounts to the Meadowlands.
I don't get why the Pats don't bring a high amount (20%) or more.
Hudlander,
I was not there but a few things to consider:
The cameras can (and often do) paint a deceiving picture. They'll find a fan for his expression after a score. And since the Jets scored more often than the Pats, there was little or no reason to find a group of Pats fans. Had the Pats won, I'm sure it would have been different.
In comparison to fans at an event in the Boston area, it has always been my experience there are more New Yorkers watching in MA than New Englanders watching in NY/NJ. I think the primary reason is that you find a much larger percentage of NY natives living in the Boston are than the other way around. I attribute this to the large number of colleges in the Boston area, and the number of New Yorkers who end up staying in the area after they get out of school too. Obviously Bostonians move to New York too, but not as many in either whole numbers or as a percentage of the population.
As for fanbase and market share, it is still New York. It is still a much, much larger population than Boston. One-fourth of a 15-pound pie is more than than three-fourths of a 4-pound pie.
Regarding Pittsburgh, they dispersed when the steel mills shut down. At the same time the team hit their glory years, so the fans became and retained their loyalty, and passed it down to their kids. It has nothing to do with them traveling well; it's because their fans left the area and moved elsewhere. Passionately following the Steelers is their link to their roots and the homes they left behind.
One last thing to consider is that regardless of whether or not is true, is that there is a perception that it may not be safe for an opposing fan in the Meadowlands. Part of that comes from incidents with both Jets and Giants fans at the other stadium. I'm not saying it is or is not, but perception will influence people's decisions. You mentioned the three other sports, but going to those games is not the same as going to an NFL game, especially for opposing fans. Venturing into a rival's stadium with your out of town visiting team jersey for an NFL game is not the same as doing so for a baseball game.
Nah..I disagree with you.
There are more MA's in the NY area than vice virsca.
True, many NYers go to college in Boston, that's it.
Boston is not a transplant area like DC, nor is the financial capital that NY is.
So it is much more common to have people, grown ups, from MA relocating to the NY area for jobs, than vice verca.
The percent of Boston's population is more homogenous and Boston market based than NY, even with the colleges, and let me remind you college kids are in MA short term and don't have the $$$$$ to get into games like relocating adults would.
Also, when the Red Sox are in NY, it just seems like they have a 20% of the crowd, but it never seems like the Pats can get that in NY.
Which is weird because the Steelers/Dolphins/Eagles/and Cowboys ALL bring out large amounts to the Meadowlands.
I don't get why the Pats don't bring a high amount (20%) or more.