Would Kraft ever let Belichick trade Brady?

IcyPatriot · Jan 16, 2010

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It's not a dumb question at all. Bottom line is what Brady are you trading and for what. Would you trade the 2003-2004 Brady ... heck no. How about the 2007 Tom Brady ... still no way.

Does Belichick know enough about Brady's medical history to know what he can get out of him into the future. Let's face it - none of us know what's the situation in his shoulder. or knee even. We make jokes about the injury list but there could be chronic problems in there that will only get worse.

All that being said ... 1 year of Brady could be worth everything to a team. They may want to sacrifice an entire draft of picks for 1 year of Brady.

You have to listen if someone calls you ... if you don't you suck as a GM and as a coach. Bill can win another Super Bowl without Brady if he could make a once every 10-20 years kind of defense out of the picks he gets.

PATRIOTSFANINPA · Jan 16, 2010

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Jimke said:
Kraft's ace in the hold should he decide to let BB trade Brady

is 50,000 people waiting in line for season tickets. I'm sure

several thousand fans would not renew their tickets if Brady

was dealt but waiting list people would take their places.

I have an idea,Trade Brady to the Browns for Brady Quinn....That way a Brady stays in the Patriots family,Eh?

patsfan-1982 · Jan 16, 2010

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no. even if tom brady, wants to be the highest paid. QB in the NFL kraft, will pay him. if it's one thing kraft knows how to do it's make money and brady, makes him money he is not just the face of the pats. he is the face of the NFL and kraft would loose more money then he would save. by not keeping brady,

Disco Volante · Jan 16, 2010

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cupofjoe1962 said:
Brady still has a lot of value & we appear to be more than 1 o 2 players away from being a superbowl contender.

This team isn't rebuilding.

They were Super Bowl contenders this year, then their All-Pro slot receiver producing at a historic level went on IR.

PatsFanSince74 · Jan 16, 2010

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upstater1 said:
Tom Brady might care more about his legacy.

If he thinks the Patriots are done, then he cashes out. If he thinks Super Bowls are on the horizon, a small discount will be worth it.

emphasis on "small" and i'd agree. what i don't buy is the notion that since he is married to a woman who has high earning potential that he wouldn't be interested in maximizing his own earing potential. both of them should be paid what they are worth for whatever they do.

FalconHeavy · Jan 16, 2010

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Well, super dome just became a "silent" dome ! That was way too easy

FalconHeavy · Jan 16, 2010

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PatsFanSince74 said:
emphasis on "small" and i'd agree. what i don't buy is the notion that since he is married to a woman who has high earning potential that he wouldn't be interested in maximizing his own earing potential. both of them should be paid what they are worth for whatever they do.

If only we could have paid the market value for so many players that we let go...

TriplecHamp · Jan 16, 2010

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nope, I am starting to worry about all these shots Brady is taking, you never hear about Peyton Manning with a sprianed shoulder and broken ribs.

FalconHeavy · Jan 16, 2010

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WOW, I mean wow... flea flicker !!! Please NO go all the way and win it all. I don't want to hear about manning until next year

PATRIOTSFANINPA · Jan 16, 2010

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TriplecHamp said:
nope, I am starting to worry about all these shots Brady is taking, you never hear about Peyton Manning with a sprianed shoulder and broken ribs.

Because Manning has enough targets to get the ball out and in a receiver's hands in 3 seconds and avoid the sack...Brady only has Welker and thats about it most of the time.

ausbacker · Jan 16, 2010

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If it's in the best interests of the team of-course he does.

PatsFanInVa · Jan 16, 2010

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A few things:

- It is quite possible a 40-year old quarterback will be in the Super Bowl this year.

- The possibility exist, then, that 33-year-old, 34-year-old, or 36-year-old QB could do likewise (i.e., we're not there yet, in terms of "unloading a liability". We'd be getting low value, in terms of "getting good trade value" -- see below.)

- 07 was a high water mark. Absent injury and recovery, athletes, nay, humans will steadily decline from an absolute peak somewhere in their mid-late 20s, athletically speaking (19, sexually speaking.)

- There's a problem in this trajectory. A few actually:

-- Brady's not "absent injury." Either he does or does not recover further from the knee than he has gotten. Either he does or does not recover from whatever rib and finger injuries he has. If he recovers just a little, we've sold low.

-- But let's tweak that. The optimal move would be to give him more recovery time -- say, he proves a further level of recovery through '10. Then we could get a bunch for him, relatively speaking. BUT, Brady would not be likely to get the type of "prove it" offer we give to the Mosses and Welkers of the world, so that's a non-starter, right? It's "now or never" in terms of getting a bunch of stuff for Brady.

-- So, um, no. Maybe after 1 more 5-6 year deal or whatever, sure, "Montana to the Chiefs" and all that.

Now, that said: unwise as I think such a move would be now, that whole Bledsoe thing worked out, and I'd just have to hope this would too (knowing in my heart of hearts that it would not.) Then again, I knew that very thing in 2002 as well LOL.

PowerAlley.com · Jan 16, 2010

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I wonder when Tom Brady's "Joe Montana it's time for you to go" moment will come.

IcyPatriot · Jan 16, 2010

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PowerAlley.com said:
I wonder when Tom Brady's "Joe Montana it's time for you to go" moment will come.

Could already be here ... :scared:

dhamz · Jan 16, 2010

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PowerAlley.com said:
I wonder when Tom Brady's "Joe Montana it's time for you to go" moment will come.

Joe's its time to go moment was he missed a year to injury and the guy who replaced him led the team to a 14-2 record and won the NFL MVP.

Not exactly something I expect we will see Hoyer do anytime soon.

tanked_as_usual · Jan 16, 2010

first, BB has full control of football operation. unless kraft wants to look for a new front office and coaching staff, he is not calling any shots

second, BB ain't trading brady because he does not have a hall of famer like steve young on the bench

PatsFanSince74 · Jan 16, 2010

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parthasas said:
If only we could have paid the market value for so many players that we let go...

well, your sig line sums it up: "It is what it is." But he will have to be paid what he's worth.

Fanfrom1960 · Jan 16, 2010

cupofjoe1962 said:
Would you take Patrick Willis, Vernon Davis , Crabtree & two #1 picks for Brady?

Brady would sell a lot of tickets in San Francisco.....
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Are you out of your mind? Those are the three best players on a .500 team, including maybe the best linebacker and the best tight end in all of the NFL, plus two #1's? SF could go back down to 4 - 12 giving up all of that for a QB who has been great but we don't know how he does from here. You do know that some QBs lose it after 9 - 10 years in the league, right?

MoLewisrocks · Jan 16, 2010

tanked_as_usual said:
first, BB has full control of football operation. unless kraft wants to look for a new front office and coaching staff, he is not calling any shots

second, BB ain't trading brady because he does not have a hall of famer like steve young on the bench

That's not true. At some level decisions become ownership level decisions. Even Moss was. And I guarantee you Seymour was as well.

That said, I don't think Brady will ever be traded because I don't think they would even consider it until he showed he was truly entering the downside of his career (which would also limit his trade value) and frankly I think he's the kind of guy who will walk away if he believes he can't compete and function at the highest level.

In something of a bizarre turn of fate, Brady the QB has emerged as Bill the DC's football matters guy. Each has the others back and backs each other play. They're like the couple after 30 years that finishes each others sentences. And Kraft the businessman knows the value Brady will have to this team even after he retires. Kinda like the reason the Packers tried to pay Favre to just stay retired rather than ruin a legacy that had long term financial implications for all of them.

ctpatsfan77 · Jan 16, 2010

cupofjoe1962 said:
Would you take Patrick Willis, Vernon Davis , Crabtree & two #1 picks for Brady?

This is the NFL, not The Gift of the Magi.

Brady would sell a lot of tickets in San Francisco.....

So?

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