I have one small piece of advice for the Patriots front office

chillinvillin said:

Id like to add something. The pats better hire an offensive coordinator. Whoever is doing the playcalling is clueless. Im sitting there, watching the game, predicting the plays before they happen. Who out there was thinking to themselves that the pats would go ultra conservative in their playcalling in the second half. Which they did and hence, they went three and out..and lost the game.

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I agree...... Josh McDainel was up for the task, but Bill O'Brien seems better
fit for filling the vending machines and picking people up at the airport.

cupofjoe1962 said:

I agree...... Josh McDainel was up for the task, but Bill O'Brien seems better
fit for filling the vending machines and picking people up at the airport.

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I'm not sure I would trust him to pick people up at the airport. How about just the vending machines.

crowell33 said:

I'm not sure I would trust him to pick people up at the airport. How about just the vending machines.

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I'd hit the button for a Mountain Dew and end up with a Fresca...

I agree...... Josh McDainel was up for the task, but Bill O'Brien seems better
fit for filling the vending machines and picking people up at the airport.

I'm not sure I would trust him to pick people up at the airport. How about just the vending machines.


Tell me something please. IF WE all see this; don't BB and Kraft as well?
If he can't do the job than replace him.

This team has been on a decline since 2005 and it isn't going to change overnight. Bill is not a very good evaluator of talent and should leave that up to someone else. Why would he say there was no pass rushing DE/OLB that fit the Pats mould of 6'4" with a 4.65 time in the last draft, then waste 2 draft picks on aquiring Derrick Burgess. Then lets look at his $9mil a year failure Adalius Thomas. The list goes on, Bill should just stick to coaching the team and get that right.

DaBruinz said:

Yes, lets be frigging stupid and sign a 31 year old DE who is already over-paid.

As for drafting Bradford, the guy is a noodle arm and isn't that great a QB. Gutsy? Yes. But that's about it.

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Well, if there is no cap next year, if Kraft can swing it who cares how much the Pats pay for Peppers? If there is a cap, I agree he isn't the answer unless he backs up his words and say it isn't about the money but getting out of Carolina and moving to a 3-4 defense.

PATSYLICIOUS said:

Why not trade if you can get a better value later on?

Don't we have like 10 rookies on the roster anyways how much more do you want???

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I think the original poster's thought process is that we keep trading out of positions of getting top notch talent, only to wind up with 200 3rd round picks, and they never seem to work out. I think maybe it's worth taking a shot at 1st round talent every once in a while. I know they all don't work out, but I think the odds of them working out, rather than th 3rd rounders is probably higher. Look, I'm not going to say I'm a better talent evaluater than anyone. But, as an example, two guys we could have possibly had, by either trading up our assets, or staying where we were, Darrelle Revis and David Harris of the Jets, look to be Pro Bowl talents, and guys that could have made our team better. That's just a small example of guys we could have taken.

PATSYLICIOUS said:

Why not trade if you can get a better value later on?

Don't we have like 10 rookies on the roster anyways how much more do you want???

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Because this team has more holes than Swiss cheese and stands to lose

Neal, Watson, Bodden, Burgess, Wilfork, and Green. This may be a very

loaded draft due to a lot of juniors declaring. The 2011 draft may be a very

weak draft minus these juniors.

Bartmac36 said:

1. SIGN PEPPERS
2. RE-SIGN BODDEN
3. TRADE UP TO DRAFT SAM BRADFORD
4. DRAFT/SIGN A SOLID WR
5. RESIGN WILFORK
6. FIRE THE COORDINATORS! (bring in someone, ANYONE with good coordinating experience)...

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one of these things is not like the others....

DaBruinz said:

The Pats have 2 receivers that they added this year. They added Edelman and Tate. Unfortunately, Edelman broke his arm and Tate was recovering from a torn ACL.

As for LBers, they DID add a guy in the draft. His name is McKenzie. Unfortunately he tore his ACL in rookie camps.

Next you two knuckle heads are going to say that BB should have precognition and should have know that McKenzie would have torn his ACL in camp, that Tate would get re-injured and that Edelman would break his arm during the season.

Also, there wasn't a LB or DE who the Pats could have added that would have addressed their issues on defense, directly.

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Hey GENIUS

Edelman was a 7th round pick
You think BB counted on him for the roster?

Tate was drafted while recovering from an ACL his senior year in college

McKenzie? Who knows

How about Cushing at linebacker?
Had a chance at him and passed

That other USC guy Malumalamula...whatever
Playing well for Cinci....passed on that too

If you watch the tape these defensive outside linebackers read and react.
Their first move move is up to look at the play then rush after 2 seconds.
They have not the speed to beat the tackle outside nor the strength to bullrush through them

Face it Bruin fan
Bad decisions and poor planning have wasted the talent we do have
BB has no clothes

State said:

Hey Bro, you were right this summer and you're right now.

You and I were critical of the lack of drafting outside linebackers and the prospect of Pierre Woods starting was an obvious non-starter to some of us. Though people here haven't realized until recently that BB isn't perfect.

Tully Banta-Cain is having a nice season. But it's odd to realize he's our best passrusher.

That Burgess guy we got from Oakland is a waste. We need outside pressure desperately. And receivers to spell Welker some relief.

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Thanks State. Banta-Cain is playing hard and is clearly is the Pats best pass rusher on the team. Unfortunately, that's not a good thing. At first, I was open to the trade for Burgess, but not for a 3rd round pick. No more trading with the Raiders please.

DaBruinz said:

The Pats have 2 receivers that they added this year. They added Edelman and Tate. Unfortunately, Edelman broke his arm and Tate was recovering from a torn ACL.

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I don't know if you put me on ignore because I've haven't heard a lot from you lately. Anyways, the Pats did a lazy job this off season acquiring a WR to take some relief off of Welker and Moss. There were plenty of free agent veteran WR's available that the Pats could've had but went the cheap route (as usual) and tried to squeeze anything that Galloway had left in the tank. As for Edelman, at this point he's a jag and he has a lot to learn. And Tate should've even seen the field this season.

As for LBers, they DID add a guy in the draft. His name is McKenzie. Unfortunately he tore his ACL in rookie camps.

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That's great, but our point is that the Pats haven't valued their LB's until the 2008 draft. Because they've waited so long, their defense is an absolute mess if you haven't noticed. And by the way, don't expect much out of McKenzie next season after suffering a pretty severe injury.

Also, there wasn't a LB or DE who the Pats could have added that would have addressed their issues on defense, directly.

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That could've easily been avoided had they thought about this sooner.


The fact is, BB will never win another super bowl with Tom Brady as his QB until he changes his schemes, get's players that can actually play defense, drafting stud lineman when they fall into your lap, stop trading out, and stop the insanity they call an offense.

DaBruinz, if you still don't get it now, you never will.

Indeed.

Every time I hear the announcers state that Banta-Cain is our best passrusher, I die a little bit inside. Because Banta-Cain, god love him and his over achievement, is flat-out not that good.

Ishdul said:

You have 4 picks in the first 2 rounds, USE THEM ALL AND DO NOT TRADE INTO NEXT YEAR.

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That's the effin problem, BB thinks he's smarter than everyone else and deals down and out of drafts and gets praised for it and instead of drafting the Clay Matthews or Rey Maualuga's or Brian Cushings or Michael Oher's of the world he deals down and out of drafts and picks up guys like Ron Brace, Kevin O'Connell and Terrence Wheatey. It's horrible strategy and we clearly need a personnel guy in this FO, BB has proven the he isn't that guy.

by HEY BRO! WHAT UP

Thanks State. Banta-Cain is playing hard and is clearly is the Pats best pass rusher on the team. Unfortunately, that's not a good thing. At first, I was open to the trade for Burgess, but not for a 3rd round pick. No more trading with the Raiders please.

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Originally Posted by DaBruinz
The Pats have 2 receivers that they added this year. They added Edelman and Tate. Unfortunately, Edelman broke his arm and Tate was recovering from a torn ACL.

I don't know if you put me on ignore because I've haven't heard a lot from you lately. Anyways, the Pats did a lazy job this off season acquiring a WR to take some relief off of Welker and Moss. There were plenty of free agent veteran WR's available that the Pats could've had but went the cheap route (as usual) and tried to squeeze anything that Galloway had left in the tank. As for Edelman, at this point he's a jag and he has a lot to learn. And Tate should've even seen the field this season.

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As for LBers, they DID add a guy in the draft. His name is McKenzie. Unfortunately he tore his ACL in rookie camps.

That's great, but our point is that the Pats haven't valued their LB's until the 2008 draft. Because they've waited so long, their defense is an absolute mess if you haven't noticed. And by the way, don't expect much out of McKenzie next season after suffering a pretty severe injury.


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Also, there wasn't a LB or DE who the Pats could have added that would have addressed their issues on defense, directly.

That could've easily been avoided had they thought about this sooner.


The fact is, BB will never win another super bowl with Tom Brady as his QB until he changes his schemes, get's players that can actually play defense, drafting stud lineman when they fall into your lap and stop the insanity they call an offense.




Great post. And right on with this one
That's great, but our point is that the Pats haven't valued their LB's until the 2008 draft. Because they've waited so long, their defense is an absolute mess if you haven't noticed

As for Edelman, at this point he's a jag and he has a lot to learn.

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This is idiotic beyond words...

JackBauer said:

Indeed.

Every time I hear the announcers state that Banta-Cain is our best passrusher, I die a little bit inside. Because Banta-Cain, god love him and his over achievement, is flat-out not that good.

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Banta-Cain is this year's Ellis Hobbs. A solid player who would be excellent at 3rd on his depth chart, but should not be a starter.

FrreeeBird said:

This is idiotic beyond words...

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Tell me what he's done that is so spectacular? He could turn out to be a fine player but his field awareness isn't very good. There were a few times this season where he caught the ball and danced around instead of driving ahead for a first down. Those ended up being drive killers. He has promise but he has a lot to learn.

the part that sucks the most is that if the pats ever get a 6.5 265lbs LB that runs a 4.4 40 to fall to them at the 25th to 28th pick casue that the only way he will ever draft a OLB in the first round

BB system is so hard to pick up that the same rookie that would have 12 sacks with any other team would only get 5 with the pats or they would use him to cover a TE and not rush the QB

HEY BRO! WHAT UP? said:

Tell me what he's done that is so spectacular? He could turn out to be a fine player but his field awareness isn't very good. There were a few times this season where he caught the ball and danced around instead of driving ahead for a first down. Those ended up being drive killers. He has promise but he has a lot to learn.

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Yeah, averaging 8.8 yards a catch as a rookie transitioning from QB to WR means he's just another guy.

DaBruinz said:

No we don't. We need quality 3-4 LBers/4-3 DEs who can put pressure on the QB while not slacking in coverage or in the running game. Getting a pure pass rusher would do NOTHING to help this team..

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totally wrong.... if we had a pass rusher then it would take less pressure off the secondary. at this point the scheming doesn't appear so complicated. what's more simple that getting after the QB? now if the pass rusher is dumb and can't interpret a screen, etc then he shouldn't be drafted. we need a smart pass rusher that can be taught sooner than later.