Does Bill Polian influence referee's opinions?

stevedogc · Nov 16, 2009

Now I am not claiming that Polian talks to officials into making calls for the Colts or bribes them or anything like that. But over the past few Pats/Colts games, especially the ones in Indy, they have been some really questionable calls made in favor of the Colts. Does Polian's position on the competition committee influence the refereing. Meaning if a call is close, they lean in favor of the Colts. We all know he is vocal and has been such considering the officials. And please feel free to list any calls in past games as evidence. Here are a few:

1. PI call on Butler in yesterdays game.
2. Poor spot on Faulks catch on 4th down
3. Face gaurding call on Hobbs in 2006 AFCC. NFL even admitted it was wrong call.
4. Non PI call made on Colts defender against Reche Caldwell in 2006 AFCC (there's a great clip of this on youtube)
5. Not sure which game it was, or which Pats defender (Hobbs or Samuel) but there was a PI call against the Pats in 2006 regular season where Hobbs/Samuel got positioning on Wayne where Wayne actually tackled Pats player in endzone while attempting an int. PI was called. Pereira claimed that as Hobbs turned to play the ball, he brushed into Wayne.

ALP · Nov 16, 2009

stevedogc said:
Now I am not claiming that Polian talks to officials into making calls for the Colts or bribes them or anything like that. But over the past few Pats/Colts games, especially the ones in Indy, they have been some really questionable calls made in favor of the Colts. Does Polian's position on the competition committee influence the refereing. Meaning if a call is close, they lean in favor of the Colts.

this game of all the latest pats colts games, CANNOT be blamed on the refs

most of the rest yea, this one, no

stevedogc · Nov 16, 2009

ALP said:
this game of all the latest pats colts games, CANNOT be blamed on the refs

most of the rest yea, this one, no

sure it can. Bogus PI call on Butler and a poor spot on the 4th and 2nd catch by Faulk.

Brady_12 · Nov 16, 2009

Not sure if this is true but on EEI this morning a caller claimed that he'd looked at the last two Pats-Colts games and in 8 quarters of football the Colts D has zero penalties. If true, that is stunning to me.

WhoaDirty · Nov 16, 2009

Where's the "No, that is a ridiculous idea" option?

coltsfan · Nov 16, 2009

Brady_12 said:
Not sure if this is true but on EEI this morning a caller claimed that he'd looked at the last two Pats-Colts games and in 8 quarters of football the Colts D has zero penalties. If true, that is stunning to me.

It shouldn't be stunning considering that the Colts play a soft Cover 2 where all of your receivers are wideopen bc we give 10 yard cushions. Now if we played man to man like you do, then you may have a question.

PatriotWarrior · Nov 16, 2009

WhoaDirty said:
Where's the "No, that is a ridiculous idea" option?

why is it ridiculous to think that?

man2reg87 · Nov 16, 2009

How about adding to the Poll,

Does Bill Polian influence referee's opinions any more so than Brady?

Being on the competion commitee he just wants the rules enforced as we all do. All the owners vote upon what's on the table. Including the Brady Rule and/or the Tuck rule......

WhoaDirty · Nov 16, 2009

PatriotWarrior said:
why is it ridiculous to think that?

I should clarify that I was responding to the question as if it read "Does Bill Polian influence the referee's opinions to benefit the Colts"

The reason I think this is ridiculous is because there would be 31 teams getting screwed by Polian and the Colts. While I think this is not outside the realm of possibility, I generally have faith that the league is run in a fair manner and don't get caught up in conspiracy theories.

Now if you want to talk about whether or not the home team gets a slight advantage from refereeing, that is a different case.

Brady_12 · Nov 16, 2009

coltsfan said:
It shouldn't be stunning considering that the Colts play a soft Cover 2 where all of your receivers are wideopen bc we give 10 yard cushions. Now if we played man to man like you do, then you may have a question.

Okay, so you've covered pass interference. No offsides, no roughing the passer, no hits to the QBs knees (at least 2 last night IIRC)...

Not saying the Colts didn't deserve to win. The Pats gave it to them. But, if true, it's stunning...

mystrymaster · Nov 16, 2009

Brady_12 said:
Not sure if this is true but on EEI this morning a caller claimed that he'd looked at the last two Pats-Colts games and in 8 quarters of football the Colts D has zero penalties. If true, that is stunning to me.

Disciplined team is stunning? Really think about it, Aggressive teams get penalties called on them would you classify the colts Defense as aggressive?

PI calls are the Achilles of defenses, most PI calls are on man to man coverage. How much man do the colts play? .0001% and that might even be a stretch.

Shocking to say that a defense could possibly play two games without any defensive penatlies? Not really.

They replayed the PI call and if you watch, I think he got the PI call because of his left arm before he stuck his right arm up fo the ball he pushed Collie in the back. Was it close? sure. Did he technically interfere? yes. Could it have been let go? sure. But could it have been called? yes. It was close.

And on the fourth and two spot. He does bobble the ball so then forward progress doesn't count until he has posession and touches the ground. When his foot touches the ground it is on the 29 and 3/4 yard line and the ball is at the 29 and 1/2 The spot was actually pretty right on.

TrueBeliever · Nov 16, 2009

Sure, I think so. I'm not saying he pays them off or has pictures of them wearing women's underwear, but something sure makes them inclined to throw calls towards the Colts.

Brady_12 · Nov 16, 2009

mystrymaster said:
Disciplined team is stunning? Really think about it, Aggressive teams get penalties called on them would you classify the colts Defense as aggressive?

PI calls are the Achilles of defenses, most PI calls are on man to man coverage. How much man do the colts play? .0001% and that might even be a stretch.

Do Colts fans think the only penalty that can be called against D is PI? As I said previously,

Brady_12 said:
Okay, so you've covered pass interference. No offsides, no roughing the passer, no hits to the QBs knees (at least 2 last night IIRC)...

Not saying the Colts didn't deserve to win. The Pats gave it to them. But, if true, it's stunning...

stevedogc · Nov 16, 2009

mystrymaster said:
They replayed the PI call and if you watch, I think he got the PI call because of his left arm before he stuck his right arm up fo the ball he pushed Collie in the back. Was it close? sure. Did he technically interfere? yes. Could it have been let go? sure. But could it have been called? yes. It was close.

He did not technically interfere. Butler was playing the ball. the camera angle from the endzone showed the back of Butlers helmet, which meant he was watching Manning and the ball. Butler has every right to the ball the the WR does.

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