Rex Ryan talks Patriots and BB AGAIN

PatsfanGlo · Aug 18, 2009

So funny seeing this fat slob being played by NY media.

And I thought Fat Bastard was played by Mike Myers in costume.

Gwedd · Aug 18, 2009

You know, initially, earlier today, I wasn't gonna comment on this stuff. But fer goodness sake, Ryan just makes it so easy. I mean, he practically serves up straight lines waiting to be hit on.

He ain't gonna last too long with the NY/NJ media, that's for sure.

Captain Cliche · Aug 18, 2009

I'm not afraid....I'm not afraid....I'm not afraid....

Tunescribe · Aug 18, 2009

Where or when has it ever been suggested that BB's goal is to "intimidate" other coaches? Tubby Wrecks must really be feeling intimidated if he has to keep asserting that he's not intimidated. I think he's just stirring bluster to get himself and the Green Beans some publicity.

DarrylS · Aug 19, 2009

Rex Ryan continues to run mouth...

this guy seems like the opposite of Bill, continuing to generate bulletin board material... here is a suggestion, STFU and concentrate on the Jets...

Same drill at Jets camp as Ryan talks more about Belichick - The Boston Globe

“When I said that about Belichick, I’m just letting him know I’m not intimidated by him,’’ Ryan said. “He’s got the same position I have. We’re both head coaches in this league. He just happens to have a hell of a lot more Super Bowl wins. I don’t have a win. I understand that, but we’re not going to tiptoe our way through this thing.

“You don’t line up and beat a Bill Belichick-coached team by tiptoeing in there

nashvillepatsfan · Aug 19, 2009

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looks familiar

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england.../261381-rex-ryan-talks-patriots-bb-again.html

PATSYLICIOUS · Aug 19, 2009

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slash83 said:
Seems like more of a compliment than an attack imo.

That's how I see it.

When you read the title of these threads or articles you'd think he called Belichick a cheater and a fraud.

PatsFanSince74 · Aug 19, 2009

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PATSYLICIOUS said:
That's how I see it.

When you read the title of these threads or articles you'd think he called Belichick a cheater and a fraud.

you mean you missed that part?

seriously, tho, i read the clip too and i think he is in bb's face. the pats have used perceived disrespect and bulletin board material to motivate players for years. saying he's gonna kick the pats butts if they get motivation from that (when everyone knows they do) isn't exactly being subtle. so, while i don't read this as a ranting, raving "in your face" throw down, I do see it as provocative on Wrecks' part.

DarrylS · Aug 19, 2009

Tunescribe said:
Where or when has it ever been suggested that BB's goal is to "intimidate" other coaches? Tubby Wrecks must really be feeling intimidated if he has to keep asserting that he's not intimidated. I think he's just stirring bluster to get himself and the Green Beans some publicity.

That is the myth and perception, created by some of the media outlets who tend to beg issues and sensationalize what they call facts...

PATSYLICIOUS · Aug 19, 2009

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PatsFanSince74 said:
you mean you missed that part?

seriously, tho, i read the clip too and i think he is in bb's face. the pats have used perceived disrespect and bulletin board material to motivate players for years. saying he's gonna kick the pats butts if they get motivation from that (when everyone knows they do) isn't exactly being subtle. so, while i don't read this as a ranting, raving "in your face" throw down, I do see it as provocative on Wrecks' part.

It's definitely trash talk, and he's picking on BB because he knows BB is the man right now. Doesn't bother me all that much until people start with personal attacks like Tomlinson in '06. If his team can back it up on the field good for them. But they won't

WelshPat · Aug 19, 2009

"this guy seems like the opposite of Bill, continuing to generate bulletin board material"

Where is the BB matterial? And tbh, BB material is the most overrated thing going into a game. Remember antony smith? He got picked on because he STUNK. The pats would have gone after him even if he didn't say anything.

If say, Ed Reed started mouting off before a game, do you really think they would attack him? No chance.

Ryan is doing nothing wrong, if i was a jets fan i'd be thinking why not talk about our team, but they are his main rivals.

NYCPatsFan · Aug 19, 2009

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SVN said:
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iam just worried about dirty phycial play from the jets defense like the ravens teams..

Exactly what I am also worried. Dirty play.

Dealing with dirty play once a season when Ravens play is more manageable than dealing with such plays twice a season, especially if the opponent coach shouts from the rooftop that his players and style are going to be more 'hard hitting' than ever. At some point, it is going to be plain dirty as compared to being just physical.

shmessy · Aug 19, 2009

UDATE!

Belichick has just issued a response!!!!!!

YouTube - Gargh! The Wizard says, "Go away!"

Return of the Nizz · Aug 19, 2009

I don't get where this apparent confidence is coming from by the Jets. This is one of the most paper-thin teams in the league. They have some very good players but their depth is attrocious.

The o-line looks good but they have a few older guys like Faneca and Woody and nobody behind them.

Their WR corps looks like a joke. Cotchery is a very good #2 but is in now way a #1 and they have zero proven talent behind him.

RB is probably their deepest position with Jones, Washington, and now the rookie Greene.

At TE they have Keller who is in the big WR style TE mold. What exactly did they not like about Baker? He looks like he'd be a perfect compliment to Keller but instead they have...?

The defense looks just as bad. An injury to either Revis or Rhodes would make this secondary one of the worst in the league. I would take any of the Pats 5 projected corners over Lowery or Lito. Seriously, if Revis gets hurt the Pats might throw up 70 on those guys.

Again at DL their is very little room for error. It makes you appreciate having the depth we do at this position.

As with RB on O, the LB position is probably their strongest on D. But there are even question marks there after the starters (and their best OLB Pace is out for the 1st 4 games). It is still a toss up as to who has the better career, Gholston or Crable. At least if our guy busts he was a 3rd rounder on a cheap contract. Vern is a disaster from a money/production standpoint.

I could easily see this team being last place in the East. Maybe Fatty should worry more about intimidating the Bills in their battle for 3rd place.

Return of the Nizz · Aug 19, 2009

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NYCPatsFan said:
Exactly what I am also worried. Dirty play.

Dealing with dirty play once a season when Ravens play is more manageable than dealing with such plays twice a season, especially if the opponent coach shouts from the rooftop that his players and style are going to be more 'hard hitting' than ever. At some point, it is going to be plain dirty as compared to being just physical.

The Jets can not win a war of attrition. I can't wait until their 'hard-hitting' defenders start dropping like flies. Is their a dumber coach-player combo than Rex and Bart Scott?

Dino 6 Rings · Aug 19, 2009

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Its the same nonsense I've been dealing with from the Ravens for years. And remember, no matter how bad you beat them or how many times you beat them, they are going to continue to talk smack. Like one of the Ravens is wearing a "Yes I hate the Steelers" T-shirt in Camp...dude, we don't play til October because your head office complained to the league about playing in Pittsburgh on Monday Nights....but they continue to talk smack...enjoy it. Once Ray Ray Retires I hope the Ravens learn to shut their over rated mouths.

PatsFanSince74 · Aug 19, 2009

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PATSYLICIOUS said:
It's definitely trash talk, and he's picking on BB because he knows BB is the man right now. Doesn't bother me all that much until people start with personal attacks like Tomlinson in '06. If his team can back it up on the field good for them. But they won't

doesn't "bother" me either, i was just saying that it is trash talk, not some "make nice" or innocent remarks.

the most favorable spin on it so far (Gary Myers of the NY Daily News) is that Wrecks is doing it to "take the pressure off the team and put it on himself." Personally, I think that gives Ryan far too much credit for brains, but it is definitely putting him in the media bullseye.

Deus Irae · Aug 19, 2009

Return of the Nizz said:
I don't get where this apparent confidence is coming from by the Jets. This is one of the most paper-thin teams in the league. They have some very good players but their depth is attrocious.

The o-line looks good but they have a few older guys like Faneca and Woody and nobody behind them.

Their WR corps looks like a joke. Cotchery is a very good #2 but is in now way a #1 and they have zero proven talent behind him.

RB is probably their deepest position with Jones, Washington, and now the rookie Greene.

At TE they have Keller who is in the big WR style TE mold. What exactly did they not like about Baker? He looks like he'd be a perfect compliment to Keller but instead they have...?

The defense looks just as bad. An injury to either Revis or Rhodes would make this secondary one of the worst in the league. I would take any of the Pats 5 projected corners over Lowery or Lito. Seriously, if Revis gets hurt the Pats might throw up 70 on those guys.

Again at DL their is very little room for error. It makes you appreciate having the depth we do at this position.

As with RB on O, the LB position is probably their strongest on D. But there are even question marks there after the starters (and their best OLB Pace is out for the 1st 4 games). It is still a toss up as to who has the better career, Gholston or Crable. At least if our guy busts he was a 3rd rounder on a cheap contract. Vern is a disaster from a money/production standpoint.

I could easily see this team being last place in the East. Maybe Fatty should worry more about intimidating the Bills in their battle for 3rd place.

New coach. New QB. You're underestimating the defense, which should be pretty good once suspension issues are finalized. Good running game.

They're banking on a rookie QB, and that will probably cost them, but it's not as if the entire team is a steaming pile.

PatsFanSince74 · Aug 19, 2009

Return of the Nizz said:
I don't get where this apparent confidence is coming from by the Jets. This is one of the most paper-thin teams in the league. They have some very good players but their depth is attrocious.

The o-line looks good but they have a few older guys like Faneca and Woody and nobody behind them.

Their WR corps looks like a joke. Cotchery is a very good #2 but is in now way a #1 and they have zero proven talent behind him.

RB is probably their deepest position with Jones, Washington, and now the rookie Greene.

At TE they have Keller who is in the big WR style TE mold. What exactly did they not like about Baker? He looks like he'd be a perfect compliment to Keller but instead they have...?

The defense looks just as bad. An injury to either Revis or Rhodes would make this secondary one of the worst in the league. I would take any of the Pats 5 projected corners over Lowery or Lito. Seriously, if Revis gets hurt the Pats might throw up 70 on those guys.

Again at DL their is very little room for error. It makes you appreciate having the depth we do at this position.

As with RB on O, the LB position is probably their strongest on D. But there are even question marks there after the starters (and their best OLB Pace is out for the 1st 4 games). It is still a toss up as to who has the better career, Gholston or Crable. At least if our guy busts he was a 3rd rounder on a cheap contract. Vern is a disaster from a money/production standpoint.

I could easily see this team being last place in the East. Maybe Fatty should worry more about intimidating the Bills in their battle for 3rd place.

as much of an idiot that i think Ryan is, i do think he knows how to get the best out of a D and even make it overachieve; so, i wouldn't be so sure about your read on that side of the ball. on offense, one big gap is at WR and the Jets are working the phones to fill the hole; latest rumor is Sinorice Moss if the Giants don't need him.

Sanchez, assuming that Ryan can't control himself and makes him starter to play to the hearts of the same moronic fanbase that welcomed Favre with open arms, is the big question mark. Personally, I don't think that lightening strikes twice in the first round of the same draft at the same position and that Stafford will emerge as the star of the 2009 first round but that Ryan will ride the Sanchez express until the day he is fired. the loser in this is Clemens, not that he's a Matt Cassell in hiding but that he's not getting a shot. i don't know his contract status, but he'll be a good pickup for someone.

as for the battle for third place, i think the dolphins are more likely to be fighting for that than the bills, who i think will be respectable this year.

PatsDparty · Aug 19, 2009

PatsFanSince74 said:
as much of an idiot that i think Ryan is, i do think he knows how to get the best out of a D and even make it overachieve; so, i wouldn't be so sure about your read on that side of the ball. on offense, one big gap is at WR and the Jets are working the phones to fill the hole; latest rumor is Sinorice Moss if the Giants don't need him.

Sanchez, assuming that Ryan can't control himself and makes him starter to play to the hearts of the same moronic fanbase that welcomed Favre with open arms, is the big question mark. Personally, I don't think that lightening strikes twice in the first round of the same draft at the same position and that Stafford will emerge as the star of the 2009 first round but that Ryan will ride the Sanchez express until the day he is fired. the loser in this is Clemens, not that he's a Matt Cassell in hiding but that he's not getting a shot. i don't know his contract status, but he'll be a good pickup for someone.

as for the battle for third place, i think the dolphins are more likely to be fighting for that than the bills, who i think will be respectable this year.

I'm not convinced that Ryan is a defensive mastermind. He inherited a great Defense at Baltimore, that was actually pretty weak in his first few years in control of it.

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