Post your current roster projections

tunafish · Aug 8, 2009

This is actually my favorite projection so far, but I don't think we keep 5 safeties. I have a feeling we won't cut Aiken or Thomas, and I also don't know that we need LK Smith on the roster with Brace there (think if we cut him he passes waivers and makes it to the PS?). My changes in bold.

Urgent said:
OFFENSE (25)
QB (3) Brady, O'Connell, Hoyer
RB (4) Taylor, Morris, Maroney, Faulk
WR (6) Moss, Welker, Galloway, Lewis, Nunn, Aiken
TE (4) Watson, Baker, Thomas, Smith
OT (4) Light, Kaczur, LeVoir, Vollmer
OG/C (5) Mankins, Koppen, Neal, Hochstein, Ohrenberger

DEFENSE (25)
DL (6) Wilfork, Seymour, Warren, Wright, Green, Brace
OLB (5) Thomas, Woods, Burgess, Crable, Banta-Cain
ILB (4) Mayo, Bruschi, Guyton, Alexander
CB (5) Bodden, Springs, Wheatley, Wilhite, Butler
S (4) Meriweather, Sanders, Chung, Williams

SPECIALISTS (3)
K (1) Gostkowski
P (1) Hanson
LS (1) Hodel

STARTING THE SEASON ON THE PUP LIST (1)
Tate

STARTING THE SEASON ON IR (1)
McKenzie

Tough cuts:
Ventrone, BJGE, Lenon, Walter, McGowan, LK Smith

Rookie releases:
Bussey, Pryor, Richard, Ingram, Edelman

Free agent releases:
Walter, Lenon, Ciurciu, McGowan

Prior team member releases:
LK Smith, BJGE, Aiken, TE Thomas, O'Callaghan & Britt, Yates & Connolly, Richardson, Slater

patfanken · Aug 8, 2009

Interesting conversation, Here's my 2 cents

OFFENSE (24)
QB (2) Brady, O'Connell, - (Hoyer to the PS and can dress as the emergency QB for games I can't waste a valueable spot on a guy who will never play. THe only way Walter makes this squad is if he beats out O'Connell...not gonna happen)

RB (4) Taylor, Morris, Maroney, Faulk - (This will be an area of change....next year)

WR (5) Moss, Welker, Galloway, Lewis, Aikens, Edelman/Nunn (One will make it the other can both go to the PS. We are a pass first team and need 6 WRs)

TE (3) Watson, Baker, Thomas (Smith is my surprise cut - Thomas looks like the better player to me....right now. Smith will end up with the Jets...or Thomas if I'm wrong)

OT (4) Light, Kaczur, LeVoir, Vollmer - (Could be OCallahan or Britt if LeVoir doesn't get on the field soon)

OG/C (5) Mankins, Koppen, Neal, Hochstein, Yates (I don't see the why there is all the love for Ohrenburger, a 290lb OG who can't get on the field)

DEFENSE (26)
DL (7) Wilfork, Seymour, Warren, Wright, Brace, Green, LK Smith (this one is easy)

OLB (5) Thomas, Woods, Burgess, Crable, Banta-Cain (actually this one is even easier)

ILB (4) Mayo, Bruschi, Guyton, Alexander (Alexander edges Lenon because he is better on special teams and has some position flexibility. ILB is the first place to replace in several packages so we only keep 4

CB (5) Bodden, Springs, Wheatley, Wilhite, Butler (back to easy again)
S (5) Meriweather, Sanders, Chung, Slater, McGowan (Slater because he's on so many special teams, and McGowan edges Williams. BTW Williams has worked almost exclusively with the ILBs during coverage and run work

SPECIALISTS (3)
K (1) Gostkowski
P (1) Hanson
LS (1) Ingram (I'm not sure if I want to put the LSing into a rookie's hands, but since they both look to be just as good, the rookie makes more sense to the cap and contract control

STARTING THE SEASON ON THE PUP LIST (1)
Tate

STARTING THE SEASON ON IR (1)
McKenzie

Tough cuts:
Ventrone, BJGE, Lenon, Walter (Walter isn't a tough cut, let him be this year's Vinnie T. Thank him for his time and tell him to sit by the phone. Ventrone will be the 54th guy and will probably end up on the roster...eventually. Lawfirm to the the PS)

Rookie releases:
Bussey, Pryor, Richard, Edelman Ohrenburger (Edelman to the PS, as well as Ohrenburger, you can't make the club from the tub, maybe others as well. We had too many damned picks anyway

Free agent releases:
Walter, Lenon, Ciurciu (Ciurciu will also end up on the roster when injuries start to whittle it down.)

Prior team member releases:
BJGE, O'Callaghan & Britt, (Calley or Britt will end up with us eventually if there is an injury [/QUOTE]

sdh7711 · Aug 9, 2009

Well here's my roster projection

OFFENSE (26)
QB (3) Brady, O'Connell, Walter
RB (5) Taylor, Morris, Maroney, Faulk, Ben G
WR (5) Moss, Welker, Galloway, Lewis, Nunn
TE (4) Watson, Baker, Smith, Thomas
OT (4) Light, Kaczur, LeVoir, Vollmer
OG/C (5) Mankins, Koppen, Neal, Hochstein, Wendell

DEFENSE (24)
DL (6) Wilfork, Seymour, Warren, Wright, Brace, LeKevin
OLB (4) Thomas, Woods, Burgess, Banta-Cain
ILB (5) Mayo, Bruschi, Guyton, Lenon, Ciuriciu
CB (5) Butler, Bodden, Springs, Wheatley, Wilhite
S (4) Meriweather, Sanders, Chung, McGowan

SPECIALISTS (3)
K (1) Gostkowski
P (1) Hanson
LS (1) Ingram

STARTING THE SEASON ON THE PUP LIST (2)
Tate, Crable

STARTING THE SEASON ON IR (1)
McKenzie

Practice Squad
Edelman, Slater, Ohrnberger, Bussey, Titus, Pryor, Craig, Robertson (if Slater is claimed then love)

Here are my breakdown explanations by postion:

QB: none needed
RB: they will carry 5 since 3 are over 30 and all have a history of injuries and two are under 25 but one of them is as durable as a tin can.
WR: Nunn is my darkhorse to make the squad as an UDFA beating out Aiken for the ST roll.
TE: I think BB would love to carry 4 and have great depth.
OT: as much as I love Britt Levoir edges him out and O'Calla is an easy cut
OG/C: heads roll ie Yates and Wendell sneaks it out, I think too many people give Ohrn too much credit when hes been on the pup for a while and a late round rookie pick

DL: flip a coin with LeKevin and Green...I think green is the surprise cut, mainly because of contract considerations
OLB: pretty straight forward.....unless Crable gets his butt in gear and puts Banta on the outside looking in who is nothing more than a rush specialist
ILB: Unless Lenon really falters he makes it over Alexander and Ciur is the heir apparent to Izzo
CB: no explanation Richardson out on numbers game
S: McGowan makes it cause of contract implications over Tank. Now he royal sucks in preseason Tank is in and McGowan is out. Ventrone a tough cut.

ST: Ingram beats out Hodel

This of course is barring the inevitable injuries and one or two guys just flopping that no one expects.

jmt57 · Aug 9, 2009

My guess is that Green will not be cut. Look past the $2.04 million cap savings if he is traded or released; the Pats would take a $2.9 million cap hit if he is released or traded. I just don't see BB taking that hit and losing flexibility should the team need it to replace injured players over the course of the season.

In my opinion Jarvis Green is close to a lock to making this 2009 roster.

sdh7711 · Aug 9, 2009

jmt57 said:
My guess is that Green will not be cut. Look past the $2.04 million cap savings if he is traded or released; the Pats would take a $2.9 million cap hit if he is released or traded. I just don't see BB taking that hit and losing flexibility should the team need it to replace injured players over the course of the season.

In my opinion Jarvis Green is close to a lock to making this 2009 roster.

Sorry you read the cap page wrong....Green is in the very last year of his contract.....no SB to be accelerated. Thats a 2 million savings not a hit to the cap, a hit is in red on the page and in ().

Green 2.9 million hit with 2 mill ni savings...Le Kevin 560 hit. With only 3.5 million in space some cap room will need to be created for the 52 53 men, PS and IR cushion money. He's a candidate.

Brady'sButtBoy · Aug 9, 2009

Don't have the time to do the whole squad but...

Faulk is a lock, too many questions at RB in terms of durability/growth to send him packing. BJGE? There are 5 RB's in the NFL 32 or over, the Pats have 3 of them! They might need to keep BJGE somehow just for the depth. I'd say Morris would be the surprise cut/trade at RB, not Faulk.

Watson is major trade bait to me. I have to believe Cincy has already called the Pats about which of their 4 best TE's can be had. Watson's in his last year and some team might daydream that he's ready to 'break out.' If Thomas stays healthy look for Watson to be moved, he won't bring much but Cincy is desperate...

Edelman makes the team or gets a redshirt. He's a burgeoning talent by nearly all accounts who may need a year for refinement but he's not going anywhere. (And though we may not see it in camp or pre-season, Julian is going to get some Wildcat time if he doesn't get redshirted, bank on it. The lack of Wildcat talk/practice is conspicuous by its total absence and by Kraft's "why would we remove the best QB in football" talk.)

Hard to see Hoyer making this team unless Walter is a complete dud in the preseason games.

Man, the other ILB's (Lenon especially) would have to stink for Alexander to make the team. Sorry, but Eric has always looked terrible at play from scrimmage, IMHO. He's fine on ST's but that's it. How about shipping him to KC for a 6th then package it with our 6th and turn both into a fifth come draft day to give the Raiders so we can get our 4th back? Then you could sorta say we traded Alexander for a fourth, that'd be a heck of trade.

mgteich · Aug 9, 2009

A) Faulk is going nowhere. BJGE would likely not make a non-AFCWest roster.
B) Watson could be traded, but he makes the roster for now.
C) I suspect Hochstein will still make the team, although Wendell could take his spot.
D) I like seven DL's this year, given the contract situations. That being said, Carter could replace Green, who could be traded. For now, I expect Green to make it.
E) I have McGowan over Tank Williams. Special teams is key for the #4 safety.
F) For now I have Hodel, but Ingram could make the squad instead with a great camp.
G) There will be great competition for the special team spots. I could see Ciurciu and/or Alexander getting a spot. For example, we could keep only six DL's or Crable could go on regular season PUP. It is time for Slater and Ventrone to go. Spann is already gone.
H) Edleman, Nunn, Pryor, Richard, Hoyer, Wendell and BJGE seem like fine Practice team prospects.

OFFENSE (23)
QB (3) - Brady, O'Connell, Walter
RB (4) - Taylor, Morris, Maroney, Faulk (This is plenty)
FB (0) - (I'm not as comfortable with this as some)
WR (4) - Moss, Welker, Galloway, Lewis (Faulk and TE's have the rest of the catches)
C/OG (5) - Mankins, Koppen, Neal, Orhenberger, Hochstein
OT (4) - Light, Kaczur, LeVoir, Vollmer
TE (3) - Watson, Baker, Smith (time for Thomas to go)

DEFENSE (24)
DL (7) - Seymour, Wilfork, Warren, Green, Smith, Wright, Brace
OLB (4) - Thomas, Burgess, Woods, Crable
ILB (4) - Mayo, Bruschi, Guyton, Lenon
CB (5) - Bodden, Springs, Wilhite, Wheatley, Butler
S (4) Meriweather, Sanders, Chung, McGowan

SPECIALISTS (3)
K (1) Gostkowski
P (1) Hanson
DS (1) Hodel

SPECIAL TEAMS (3)
ST (3) Aiken, Jones, Banta-Cain

PUP
Tate

IR
McKenzie

WAITING FOR AN INJURY
Alexander, Ciurciu, Slater, Ventrone, Edleman, BJGE, Nunn

captain stone · Aug 9, 2009

I realize that because of salary cap considerations & the unfortunate, inevitable injuries, this Opening Day 53 will never happen, even if Bill himself wants it to happen. With that in mind, I humbly submit:

OFFENSE - 25

QB - Brady, KOC; Waltah to...? Hoyer to PS?

RB - Faulk, Taylor, Maroney, Morris; BJGE to...?

TE - Baker, ASmith, DThomas, Watson; DeVree to PS, if eligible?

WR - Moss, Welker, Galloway, Lewis, Aiken, Edelman; Nunn to PS? Tate to PUP/IR.

OC - Koppen, Hochstein; Connelly remote, Wendell to PS?

OG - Mankins, Neal, OBurger; Bussey to PS? Yates not good enough.

OT - Light, Kaczur, SeaBass, LeVoir; ROC to KC or Denver? Britt very remote.

DEFENSE - 25

DE - Seymour, Warren, Green, Wright; Richard to PS/PUP? Williams back to K-Mart.

DT - Wilfork, Brace, LKSmith; Pryor to PS? Adams to...?

ILB - Mayo, Bruschi, Guyton, Lenon, Ciurciu; McKenzie to IR, Alexander to...who cares?

OLB - Thomas, Burgess, Woods, TBC; Ninkovich to PS, if eligible? Chicken Legs to PUP/IR again.

CB - Bodden, Butler, Springs, Wheatley, Wilhite; Love to PS? Richardson to KC or Denver?

S - Chung, Stomper, Sanders, McGowan; HDJ to...? Bubba,Tank to Shadow Roster? Slater to...who cares?

ST - Ghost, Hanson, Ingram; Hodel to Shadow Roster?

PS - Hoyer, DeVree, Nunn, Bussey, Wendell, Pryor, Ninkovich, Love.

PUP/IR - Tate, Richard, McKenzie, Crable.

Toughest cuts - Waltah, Ventrone.

JAGs I cut but Bill probably won't - Alexander, Slater.

Players I kept but Bill prob. won't - Lenon, McGowan.

mgteich · Aug 9, 2009

A) You say that we are a passing team and therefore need six wide receivers. How many passes were caught in 2007 and 2008 by the #5 and #6 wide receivers? I think you will find that the number is very very small.

We do need more than FOUR receivers, but not more than four WIDE receivers. The other receivers are called tight ends and running backs. Even the #4 wide receiver often catches fewer balls in the season than a couple of non-widereceivers.

I'm fine with Aiken as the #5 wide receiver, but I list him as a special teamer first and foremost. We don't need a 6th.

B) Your point on Ohrenberger and LeVoir is well taken. They need to get back on the field.

C) It is interesting to see the love for Alexander and Slater. I think that the new Special Teams coach brought in Jones and Ciurciu as special teams upgrades.

D) Wendy?

E) I'll take Walter over Edleman any day, but you certainly could be right.

patfanken said:
Interesting conversation, Here's my 2 cents

OFFENSE (24)
QB (2) Brady, O'Connell, - (Hoyer to the PS and can dress as the emergency QB for games I can't waste a valueable spot on a guy who will never play. THe only way Walter makes this squad is if he beats out O'Connell...not gonna happen)

RB (4) Taylor, Morris, Maroney, Faulk - (This will be an area of change....next year)

WR (5) Moss, Welker, Galloway, Lewis, Aikens, Edelman/Nunn (One will make it the other can both go to the PS. We are a pass first team and need 6 WRs)

TE (3) Watson, Baker, Thomas (Smith is my surprise cut - Thomas looks like the better player to me....right now. Smith will end up with the Jets...or Thomas if I'm wrong)

OT (4) Light, Kaczur, LeVoir, Vollmer - (Could be OCallahan or Britt if LeVoir doesn't get on the field soon)

OG/C (5) Mankins, Koppen, Neal, Hochstein, Yates (I don't see the why there is all the love for Ohrenburger, a 290lb OG who can't get on the field)

DEFENSE (26)
DL (7) Wilfork, Seymour, Warren, Wright, Brace, Green, LK Smith (this one is easy)

OLB (5) Thomas, Woods, Burgess, Crable, Banta-Cain (actually this one is even easier)

ILB (4) Mayo, Bruschi, Guyton, Alexander (Alexander edges Lenon because he is better on special teams and has some position flexibility. ILB is the first place to replace in several packages so we only keep 4

CB (5) Bodden, Springs, Wheatley, Wilhite, Butler (back to easy again)
S (5) Meriweather, Sanders, Chung, Slater, McGowan (Slater because he's on so many special teams, and McGowan edges Williams. BTW Williams has worked almost exclusively with the ILBs during coverage and run work

SPECIALISTS (3)
K (1) Gostkowski
P (1) Hanson
LS (1) Ingram (I'm not sure if I want to put the LSing into a rookie's hands, but since they both look to be just as good, the rookie makes more sense to the cap and contract control

STARTING THE SEASON ON THE PUP LIST (1)
Tate

STARTING THE SEASON ON IR (1)
McKenzie

Tough cuts:
Ventrone, BJGE, Lenon, Walter (Walter isn't a tough cut, let him be this year's Vinnie T. Thank him for his time and tell him to sit by the phone. Ventrone will be the 54th guy and will probably end up on the roster...eventually. Lawfirm to the the PS)

Rookie releases:
Bussey, Pryor, Richard, Edelman Ohrenburger (Edelman to the PS, as well as Ohrenburger, you can't make the club from the tub, maybe others as well. We had too many damned picks anyway

Free agent releases:
Walter, Lenon, Ciurciu (Ciurciu will also end up on the roster when injuries start to whittle it down.)

Prior team member releases:
BJGE, O'Callaghan & Britt, (Calley or Britt will end up with us eventually if there is an injury

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DaBruinz · Aug 9, 2009

captain stone said:
I realize that because of salary cap considerations & the unfortunate, inevitable injuries, this Opening Day 53 will never happen, even if Bill himself wants it to happen. With that in mind, I humbly submit:

OFFENSE - 25

QB - Brady, KOC; Waltah to...? Hoyer to PS?

RB - Faulk, Taylor, Maroney, Morris; BJGE to...?

TE - Baker, ASmith, DThomas, Watson; DeVree to PS, if eligible?

WR - Moss, Welker, Galloway, Lewis, Aiken, Edelman; Nunn to PS? Tate to PUP/IR.

OC - Koppen, Hochstein; Connelly remote, Wendell to PS?

OG - Mankins, Neal, OBurger; Bussey to PS? Yates not good enough.

OT - Light, Kaczur, SeaBass, LeVoir; ROC to KC or Denver? Britt very remote.

DEFENSE - 25

DE - Seymour, Warren, Green, Wright; Richard to PS/PUP? Williams back to K-Mart.

DT - Wilfork, Brace, LKSmith; Pryor to PS? Adams to...?

ILB - Mayo, Bruschi, Guyton, Lenon, Ciurciu; McKenzie to IR, Alexander to...who cares?

OLB - Thomas, Burgess, Woods, TBC; Ninkovich to PS, if eligible? Chicken Legs to PUP/IR again.

CB - Bodden, Butler, Springs, Wheatley, Wilhite; Love to PS? Richardson to KC or Denver?

S - Chung, Stomper, Sanders, McGowan; HDJ to...? Bubba,Tank to Shadow Roster? Slater to...who cares?

ST - Ghost, Hanson, Ingram; Hodel to Shadow Roster?

PS - Hoyer, DeVree, Nunn, Bussey, Wendell, Pryor, Ninkovich, Love.

PUP/IR - Tate, Richard, McKenzie, Crable.

Toughest cuts - Waltah, Ventrone.

JAGs I cut but Bill probably won't - Alexander, Slater.

Players I kept but Bill prob. won't - Lenon, McGowan.

Is Ninkovich eligible for the practice squad?

jmt57 · Aug 9, 2009

DaBruinz said:
Is Ninkovich eligible for the practice squad?

Good question. I think he might be,

Eligible players are restricted to those who:

Do not have an accrued season of free agency credit

OR

Were on the 45-player active list for less than nine regular season games during their only accrued season.

Where "accrued season" means: six or more regular-season games on a club's active, inactive, reserved-injured or PUP lists.

Max time on Practice Squad is three seasons; in the third season, the player must be moved to the 53 man roster if there's an open slot.

Rob Ninkovich Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com

According to Pro Football Reference, Ninkovich has been in eight games over three years. It looks like he would qualify in terms of games played. In his rookie year he was playing with the Saints but went on IR after an injury in September, so it looks like he was never on the PS in 2006. I know he was on the Dolphin's PS in 2008, so he should have at least one, if not two years of Practice Squad eligibility remaining.

Rob Ninkovich

Fencer · Aug 9, 2009

Re: Post your current Roster projections.

spacecrime said:
Anyone know Faulk's salary off the top of their head?

Considering the ever-present link to Miguel's Cap Page, that may be the laziest post in the history of this forum.

sdh7711 · Aug 9, 2009

jmt57 said:
Good question. I think he might be,

Eligible players are restricted to those who:

Do not have an accrued season of free agency credit

OR

Were on the 45-player active list for less than nine regular season games during their only accrued season.

Where "accrued season" means: six or more regular-season games on a club's active, inactive, reserved-injured or PUP lists.

Max time on Practice Squad is three seasons; in the third season, the player must be moved to the 53 man roster if there's an open slot.

Rob Ninkovich Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com

According to Pro Football Reference, Ninkovich has been in eight games over three years. It looks like he would qualify in terms of games played. In his rookie year he was playing with the Saints but went on IR after an injury in September, so it looks like he was never on the PS in 2006. I know he was on the Dolphin's PS in 2008, so he should have at least one, if not two years of Practice Squad eligibility remaining.

Rob Ninkovich

nope he is not eligible he has three seasons in the league. The language about games played and eligibility is only there for the first three years.

IE you cant sign a rookie week 4 from the PS to the regular roster cause of injuries, then the following year sign him to the PS after cuts because he will be on the roster for more than the 8 or 9 games needed.

The playing time is mute with his case, he has been in the league three years he is no longer eligible for it.

spacecrime · Aug 9, 2009

JSn said:
STARTING THE SEASON ON THE PUP LIST (2)
Tate, Crable

Time to cut someone to make room for Crable. And I wouldn't be too sure that Tate will be on PUP, either.

JSn · Aug 9, 2009

spacecrime said:
Time to cut someone to make room for Crable. And I wouldn't be too sure that Tate will be on PUP, either.

Give it time. Crable's bound to trip over another Soccer Ball...

Anyway let's see if he can live up to even half the hype, first.

PatsWickedPissah · Aug 9, 2009

sdh7711 said:
The playing time is mute

That word does not mean what you think it means.

DaBruinz · Aug 9, 2009

sdh7711 said:
nope he is not eligible he has three seasons in the league. The language about games played and eligibility is only there for the first three years.

IE you cant sign a rookie week 4 from the PS to the regular roster cause of injuries, then the following year sign him to the PS after cuts because he will be on the roster for more than the 8 or 9 games needed.

The playing time is mute with his case, he has been in the league three years he is no longer eligible for it.

The word is MOOT, not mute.

Also, I checked the game logs for Ninkovich. Ninkovich was on Miami's 53 man roster for the entirety of 2007.

And its based on ACCRUED seasons, not number of years in the league. A perfect example is Eric Alexander. It wasn't until his 3rd year in the league that he got an accrued season.

Brady'sButtBoy · Aug 9, 2009

MOOT-
–adjective
1. open to discussion or debate; debatable; doubtful: a moot point.
2. of little or no practical value or meaning; purely academic.
3. Chiefly Law. not actual; theoretical; hypothetical.

I wonder we all get this backwards. I still do it all the time, but the fact is that a "moot" point is one open to discussion, not closed like we all use it.

Our usage is probably an adaptation of the second meaning - little value. Folks used to say, "moot point" meaning it's an argument not worth having because the issue was so unimportant.

Anyway...

Edelman makes the team!!!

captain stone · Aug 9, 2009

Thanks for the Ninkovich Q & A; it seems as if he may still have PS eligibility. As we get closer to cut-down days, I'm sure we'll learn the answer to this one & others like DeVree & Adams.

Edit: Just read sdh's post; now I'm more confused than ever.

captain stone · Aug 9, 2009

patfanken said:
Interesting conversation, Here's my 2 cents

OFFENSE (24)
QB (2) Brady, O'Connell, - (Hoyer to the PS and can dress as the emergency QB for games I can't waste a valueable spot on a guy who will never play. THe only way Walter makes this squad is if he beats out O'Connell...not gonna happen)
Waltah was one of my toughest cuts, but as of now, I too think that only 2 QBs will be kept.

RB (4) Taylor, Morris, Maroney, Faulk - (This will be an area of change....next year)
Agreed.

WR (6) Moss, Welker, Galloway, Lewis, Aikens, Edelman/Nunn (One will make it the other can both go to the PS. We are a pass first team and need 6 WRs)
Agreed; as of now, it's Edelman over Nunn.

TE (3) Watson, Baker, Thomas (Smith is my surprise cut - Thomas looks like the better player to me....right now. Smith will end up with the Jets...or Thomas if I'm wrong)
Because there are no FBs (though Sammy's done it before), I think there's room for 4 TEs.

OT (4) Light, Kaczur, LeVoir, Vollmer - (Could be OCallahan or Britt if LeVoir doesn't get on the field soon)
Agreed.

OG/C (5) Mankins, Koppen, Neal, Hochstein, Yates (I don't see the why there is all the love for Ohrenburger, a 290lb OG who can't get on the field)
I don't love OBurger either, but Bill did invest a 4th-rounder in him, when he could've had DE/OLB Lawrence Sidbury instead.

DEFENSE (26)
DL (7) Wilfork, Seymour, Warren, Wright, Brace, Green, LK Smith (this one is easy)
Agreed, though LeKevin could be gone if 6 DLmen are kept.

OLB (5) Thomas, Woods, Burgess, Crable, Banta-Cain (actually this one is even easier)
I wanna see Chicken legs play some pre-season games first.

ILB (4) Mayo, Bruschi, Guyton, Alexander (Alexander edges Lenon because he is better on special teams and has some position flexibility. ILB is the first place to replace in several packages so we only keep 4
Lenon was a very good STer before he became a starting LB, though he might have to prove that he can play STs again. Besides, I want Alexander gone, badly.

CB (5) Bodden, Springs, Wheatley, Wilhite, Butler (back to easy again)
Agreed.

S (5) Meriweather, Sanders, Chung, Slater, McGowan (Slater because he's on so many special teams, and McGowan edges Williams. BTW Williams has worked almost exclusively with the ILBs during coverage and run work
Agreed; though I want Slater gone, I suspect that Bill's gonna keep him.

SPECIALISTS (3)
K (1) Gostkowski
P (1) Hanson
LS (1) Ingram (I'm not sure if I want to put the LSing into a rookie's hands, but since they both look to be just as good, the rookie makes more sense to the cap and contract control
Agreed.

STARTING THE SEASON ON THE PUP LIST (1)
Tate

STARTING THE SEASON ON IR (1)
McKenzie

Tough cuts:
Ventrone, BJGE, Lenon, Walter (Walter isn't a tough cut, let him be this year's Vinnie T. Thank him for his time and tell him to sit by the phone. Ventrone will be the 54th guy and will probably end up on the roster...eventually. Lawfirm to the the PS)
I don't think that BJGE has any PS eligibility.

Rookie releases:
Bussey, Pryor, Richard, Edelman Ohrenburger (Edelman to the PS, as well as Ohrenburger, you can't make the club from the tub, maybe others as well. We had too many damned picks anyway
It wasn't the quantity of picks, it was the quality of picks.

Free agent releases:
Walter, Lenon, Ciurciu (Ciurciu will also end up on the roster when injuries start to whittle it down.)
I think Vinny C could stick; he played for our new ST Coach in Carolina, IIRC.

Prior team member releases:
BJGE, O'Callaghan & Britt, (Calley or Britt will end up with us eventually if there is an injury

In my Crystal Bong, I see...ROC being claimed by KC or Denver.

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