Tabloid news on BB

Answer my question first. How could any reasonably intelligent person read any of the above posts and come away feeling that people don't 'like' BB?

Pats67 said:

There is no way he will address the media about this. In a hundred years.

What happens between the team and the coach we will never know. My guess is that he will address the team about football, and the Buffalo Bills, etc. I feel pretty confident in that guess.

Yes, he will say nothing.

Did he retire when it was 'reported' that he was about to be wed to Bonnie Bernstein?

Oh, come on, man.

Lastly, 'it will really hope those that feel BB is being victimized by this'? You CANNOT be serious. He should sue to make YOU feel better? For crying out loud.

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If a head coach is going to tell his team that they need be responsible for their actions and never do anything to embarrass the team, if, and I emphasize, if, he has indeed had engaged in immoral or improper behavior with a married woman, then how can he ignore it?

IF this blossoms beyond the Herald gossip page and into mainstream media and develops into a real media circus - then he may find that he will need to address the media to put an end to all the rumors or falsehoods.

Lastly, are you saying that this does not bother you in any way? Seems to me that most people in this newsgroup are hardcore Patriot fans. That means that we do care about the team, its players, it successes, failures both on and off the field. So, when the story broke, I felt bad for BB and I would feel better for him and his family if indeed this turned out to be slander. Is that so wrong?

Pats67 said:

We share that sentiment to be sure.

On the second point, I guess I would disagree that the relevance is self-evident. I agree with what MLR said earlier -- I'm really not concerned in the least that this will become any kind of on-field distraction that has anything to do with where the team finishes, etc. The man is not my hero, as I no longer asd an adult have them, but he has my everlasting respect and confidence as someone who produces professionally under any circumstance.

My concern was with what I perceived to be some muckraking on the part of some disgusting pigs - who basically trash anyone who dares to be uncooperative with them, as the Boston Mag story indicated - and irresponsibility on the part of those decisionmakers that 'craft' the front page of the Herald. And of course those who claim that the coach is their 'hero' yet are the first to believe the worst about him.

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I absolutely agree that the Herald, being a tabloid, is given to oversensationalizing the "tawdry and unseemly" to sell papers. Seeing the story blown up into a cover page was beyond ludicrous, but you've got to expect that (not necessary "accept" it) as the style of papers like the Herald and New York Post. But take the Inside Track women out of this for a moment and just go with the facts at hand, the court documents: Like it or not this is a legitimate news story involving a high-profile public figure. It absolutely is relevant in its potential impact on BB and the Patriots. Again, I can't emphasize the operative word "potential" here enough. Hopefully it will not affect BB or, by extension, the team. But to assume it is not relevant because BB has successfully navigated past personal crises is denying the reality of this situation. And that reality is: The coach of our NFL team has been dragged into a contentious personal legal matter of unknown consequences. For that reason alone it is worth knowing about. Is it a big deal at the moment? No. Could it become a big deal down the road? Possibly. Let's just hope it goes away quickly and quietly and that peace prevails over a successful 2006 campaign.

Pats67 said:

Here's a little more on those fine reporters that clearly performed a public service for posters like 'Bills Girl' (ironic that she would be the first to bail on her hero, right?), letting them know how much they have been personally embarrassed by someone they don't even know:

Yeah, you can believe what these girls say

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Excuse me. But where do you get off making nasty comments about Bill's Girl? She didn't bail on Bill.....she was just venting. She was shocked and upset and so was I. Her only mistake was venting to fellow board members she thought would be a little more sympathetic to our plight (hence our screen-names). Cut her some some slack.

And don't give me any crap because I don't post often enough. I get here when I can.

Tunescribe said:

I absolutely agree that the Herald, being a tabloid, is given to oversensationalizing the "tawdry and unseemly" to sell papers. Seeing the story blown up into a cover page was beyond ludicrous, but you've got to expect that (not necessary "accept" it) as the style of papers like the Herald and New York Post. But take the Inside Track women out of this for a moment and just go with the facts at hand, the court documents: Like it or not this is a legitimate news story involving a high-profile public figure. It absolutely is relevant in its potential impact on BB and the Patriots. Again, I can't emphasize the operative word "potential" here enough. Hopefully it will not affect BB or, by extension, the team. But to assume it is not relevant because BB has successfully navigated past personal crises is denying the reality of this situation. And that reality is: The coach of our NFL team has been dragged into a contentious personal legal matter of unknown consequences. For that reason alone it is worth knowing about. Is it a big deal at the moment? No. Could it become a big deal down the road? Possibly. Let's just hope it goes away quickly and quietly and that peace prevails over a successful 2006 campaign.

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Thank You Tune...that is EXACTLY what I was trying to say in post above yours, relative to the "potential" distraction this may bring.

You said it a hell of a lot better than I did.

HugeCrushOnBB said:

Excuse me. But where do you get off making nasty comments about Bill's Girl? She didn't bail on Bill.....she was just venting. She was shocked and upset and so was I. Her only mistake was venting to fellow board members she thought would be a little more sympathetic to our plight (hence our screen-names). Cut her some some slack.

And don't give me any crap because I don't post often enough. I get here when I can.

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Hey, HugeCrush! Good to hear from you -- I'm sorry it's not a more cheerful discussion to bring you back.

The Herald? Tabloid? Never!

Did you catch the final line of the story? An editors note that was left in the online article?

That tells you all you need to know.

http://www.metrowestdailynews.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=135962&format=&page=2 said:

File Under: Jersey Girl

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Mike the Brit said:

Hey, HugeCrush! Good to hear from you -- I'm sorry it's not a more cheerful discussion to bring you back.

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Thanks for the welcome Mike!

I've been waiting for training camp to start. I'm anxious to see how all the new guys fit in, etc and Bill's Girl and I have been discussing what's coming up for the new season (new players, the new offense & defense coaches, etc)......and then this bomb drops.

It's kinda funny because everyone where I work knows I'm a Pats fan and they're well aware of my BB worship....lol So when one of the female supervisors asked me about this whole fiasco....I had no answer for her. Then she accused me of "protecting Bill." LOL
I told her that I was waiting for the verdict to come back before I hang him up by his family jewels!!

So here I am, just waiting......

arrellbee said:

Before I get seriously upset, let me make sure I am correctly interpreting what you are saying.

You can't be serious that you think that allegations made by a party in a court suit can be believed just because they are in the court papers ?? !! ??

If you have paralegal background, you do know that for a filed suit they don't have to get a 'judge's approval' to issue subpoenas ?? It would only come before a judge if the plaintiff refused to comply with a subpoena and they made a motion to compel ?? ?? ??

You are not seriously assuming that Belichick committed any of these alleged acts are you ?? Or do you have something else to go on besides the Herald column ??

I'll refrain from further comment until I can figure out what you are really saying.

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The husband's lawyer is looking to depose BB......you issue subpoenas to order someone to testify in court or turn over evidence. I am NOT saying BB has a part in this, I am saying that a hearing has been scheduled to determine if BB needs to be deposed. The scheduled hearing and the release of the court papers is how the Track girls picked up on the story.

I repeat I am NOT saying BB did any of this alleged stuff......but the mere fact that his name is being mentioned in connection with this is worrisome.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/21/nyregion/21strahan.html?_r=1&oref=slogin




Strahan vs Strahan

A peek at divorce in New Jersey.

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Pats67 said:

Answer my question first. How could any reasonably intelligent person read any of the above posts and come away feeling that people don't 'like' BB?

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Oh, i didn't even read the comments Sorry. I did read somewhere else on here something about someone or other not liking him... Maybe I read it wrong??? Go easy on me, I'm new to the sport.

mikey said:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/21/nyregion/21strahan.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

Strahan vs Strahan

A peek at divorce in New Jersey.

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That was pretty funny. I liked the quote from his wife when the divorce was final: "I feel 260 pounds lighter."

BB in a press conference on the matter:

Are you planing to see your mistress this weekend:
It is a game time decision and is day to day. She is listed as questionable on the injury report.

What do you think of her husband?
He is a great guy. He does so many things well and competes well. I am going to have to play my best game if I am going to win.

What do you think about reports on her like girl on girl action?
I just take it one babe at a time.

HugeCrushOnBB said:

Excuse me. But where do you get off making nasty comments about Bill's Girl? She didn't bail on Bill.....she was just venting. She was shocked and upset and so was I. Her only mistake was venting to fellow board members she thought would be a little more sympathetic to our plight (hence our screen-names). Cut her some some slack.

And don't give me any crap because I don't post often enough. I get here when I can.

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Excuse me but where do you get off expecting the well adjusted adult members of this football message board community to do little more than put up with your teenage crush mentality where our HC is concerned - which for the most part we have. Now you want sympathy when one of you is the first to turn on the object of your affection because some sleezy gossip column fodder linking him to a married woman who is not one of you? She was just venting??? Concern for OUR PLIGHT??? Pahleese...

This isn't about you or her and your delicate feelings or your silly school girl crushes on an NFL HC. It's about a first ballot lock HOF HC being dragged through the mud based on nothing more than some soon to be divorced husbands unsubstantiated claims in a pending divorce/custody/alimony battle that he thinks his wife and BB are more than friends. The fact that in the same court papers the wife denies any impropriety seems to fall on deaf ears, both at the Herald and among a select few here - including Bill's stalkeresque girls clubbers. If you truly respected and admired him rather than being merely childishly obcessed with him you would be among the first to defend his reputation from unsubstantiated muckraking.

And just for context, denials to the contrary, what she did say is:

Bill's Girl said:

I agree that BB's personal life is none of our business. HOWEVER, when one of your constant mantra's is,"Don't do anything to embarass yourselves or the franchise," you have to admit that opens you up to more scrutiny. He has embarassed the Krafts, the Patriots organization, his wife, his children and ALL of us!

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HugeCrushOnBB said:

And don't give me any crap because I don't post often enough. I get here when I can.

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That is probably much healthier than pulling up this board every five minutes as I've done for the last two days to see if there is any new info. I think we all need to back away from the keyboard and find some fun outdoor activity tomorrow before this board explodes! And remind ourselves that we may never know the whole story, if there even was a story, and that is fine. We still have the absolute best coach in football coaching our team.

MoLewisrocks said:

Excuse me but where do you get off expecting the well adjusted adult members of this football message board community to do little more than put up with your teenage crush mentality where our HC is concerned - which for the most part we have. Now you want sympathy when one of you is the first to turn on the object of your affection because some sleezy gossip column fodder linking him to a married woman who is not one of you? She was just venting??? Concern for OUR PLIGHT??? Pahleese...

This isn't about you or her and your delicate feelings or your silly school girl crushes on an NFL HC. It's about a first ballot lock HOF HC being dragged through the mud based on nothing more than some soon to be divorced husbands unsubstantiated claims in a pending divorce/custody/alimony battle that he thinks his wife and BB are more than friends. The fact that in the same court papers the wife denies any impropriety seems to fall on deaf ears, both at the Herald and among a select few here - including Bill's stalkeresque girls clubbers. If you truly respected and admired him rather than being merely childishly obcessed with him you would be among the first to defend his reputation from unsubstantiated muckraking.

And just for context, denials to the contrary, what she did say is:

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Mo, even if all of this is baseless and perfectly innocent, it is still embarassing!! This is the kind of thing that sticks to your reputation, the kind of thing that will bring his judgement into question by others. That is what I am questioning.....his judgement.

All I have ever done on this board is defend BB! Through the whole offseason when people were in panic mode over losing Adam, Willie and David, through not signing any big name free agents, through losing in Denver, through good and bad in the regular season...... I have been a staunch BB defender in EVERYTHING football related, grumpy press conferences and all!

His personal life is another matter altogether. No one is riding the people who assume it is true and are congratulating him for getting a little "strange" or the people who are saying they would let him sleep with thier wives or girlfriends. So why am I getting crap for assuming it is true? Because I see this situation as a negative? Forgive me for having morals and being dissapointed in a man who preaches responsibility and the importance of your reputation to his players.

If the judge rules that he cannot be deposed then this will slowly die. If the judge rules he can be deposed, this is going to follow OUR team all season. More than anything, I want BB focused on the team and getting to SB 41!

AStack75 said:

Need pictures of the other woman to make any judgment on this.

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That's diet coke through the nose funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bill's Girl said:

Mo, even if all of this is baseless and perfectly innocent, it is still embarassing!! This is the kind of thing that sticks to your reputation, the kind of thing that will bring his judgement into question by others. That is what I am questioning.....his judgement.

All I have ever done on this board is defend BB! Through the whole offseason when people were in panic mode over losing Adam, Willie and David, through not signing any big name free agents, through losing in Denver, through good and bad in the regular season...... I have been a staunch BB defender in EVERYTHING football related, grumpy press conferences and all!

His personal life is another matter altogether. No one is riding the people who assume it is true and are congratulating him for getting a little "strange" or the people who are saying they would let him sleep with thier wives or girlfriends. So why am I getting crap for assuming it is true? Because I see this situation as a negative? Forgive me for having morals and being dissapointed in a man who preaches responsibility and the importance of your reputation to his players.

If the judge rules that he cannot be deposed then this will slowly die. If the judge rules he can be deposed, this is going to follow OUR team all season. More than anything, I want BB focused on the team and getting to SB 41!

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That's very well said, B.G. With your background in this legal process, please share a bit more if you can: What factors will the judge weigh in deciding whether BB can be deposed? If he is deposed, what specifically does that mean? How might the case unfold from then-on in a way that could follow BB and the team all season?

The joy of being a celebrity. You cannot have a friend who is married incase that marraige ends and you get blamed for it. Even if that friend denies that you were anything but friends, her close friends also deny anything has happened. And the person accusing is the ex-husband.

desi-patsfan said:

The joy of being a celebrity. You cannot have a friend who is married incase that marraige ends and you get blamed for it. Even if that friend denies that you were anything but friends, her close friends also deny anything has happened. And the person accusing is the ex-husband.

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Yup, according to paralegal Bill's Girl whether BB is guilty or innocent of any impropriety matters not. It's his fault if he even has a friendship with someone whose husband might decide to drag his name into the mud for whatever reason, and somehow that transgression alone is sufficient to forever cast aspirsions on his good judgement. WOW.

Belichick is now damaged goods. Kraft should probably just get it over with and can his sorry ass now because it's obvious there is no way out for Belichick going forward. The Tight Asses of America, who can't even comprehend when others make fun of a situation it is because in making light of it they are dismissing it's significance, have spoken.

This is really not good. What if Brady has kept in touch with that perky PR girl he was dating back in 2001 or the gal he took to his senior prom back in 1996. What if he flew one (or both ) of them to one of his Derby parties or treated them to a Superbowl junket for old times sake. Or Poili - might he have women friends lurking in his past? They could marry at any time if they haven't already and ...:scared: