Patriots sign Joey Galloway [mergedx4]

JSn said:

ILB doesn't feel like a real need to me, personally.

I think Unger and Delmas would be very satisfying day one picks.

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We have 4 Day 1 picks.

Ulger and Demas are intiguing, pick 2 more

OhExaulted1 said:

We have 4 Day 1 picks.

Ulger and Demas are intiguing, pick 2 more

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I've been rooting for Al Smith for a while, but it sure doesn't seem like a day one CB is gonna happen. I mean there's every chance Springs and Bodden are one-year rentals, but with the W's... yeah. I can't see it.

I have a hard time sorting out which LB's/DL converts project where, but I'd go LB on the other two. I'd have said two OLB, but listening the wisened among us, I guess ILB really is a need.

Dunno, I'll leave it to the draftniks for a couple more weeks on LB's, I think.

two linebackers, one OL and one safety works for me.

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We have 4 Day 1 picks.

Ulger and Demas are intiguing, pick 2 more

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mgteich said:

two linebackers, one OL and one safety works for me.

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That's pretty much how I feel too. In order I would see our needs as OLB, OT, ILB, and then S.

I see OG as a higher need than you do. I would like to see us sign Unger, Mack or Wood in the 2nd, although I can see us waiting until the 3rd and drafting someone like Canfield, Levitre, Luigs or Caldwell. There's a lot of talent available at OG and a significant 2010 need in a year we may not be able to sign top free agents.

MANKINS will be an RFA or a UFA next year depending on whether there is a new CBA. I don't expect him back for 2010.

NEAL's contract is up and he may get more elsewhere. In any case, he is injured a lot, and shouldn't be counted on long-term. I think that we are likely to re-sign Neal.

HOCHSTEIN is a permanent back-up, very valuable, but a backup. Hochstein is signed through 2009.

YATES is the last of the guards, mediocre at best, and also signed only through 2009.

maverick4 said:

That's pretty much how I feel too. In order I would see our needs as OLB, OT, ILB, and then S.

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I'm with the people that aren't excited about the Galloway signing. I would rather have Holt. Galloway is just too old.

PatsChamp88 said:

Interesting I think this signing has its upsides and downsides. I think we will not draft a WR now or in the near future.

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Given the Pats' record recently in drafting WR (Branch being the notable exception), I'm fine with this. A set of Faulk, Baker, Moss, Galloway, and Welker will give defenses big-time fits. There's only so many DB's out there, and any of the 3 WR's will normally win 1-on-1 battles.

If the line gives Brady any time at all, he's going to absolutely shred defenses.

Now, spend the draft picks on defense, defense, and defense.

HEY BRO! WHAT UP? said:

I'm with the people that aren't excited about the Galloway signing. I would rather have Holt. Galloway is just too old.

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Galloway is also a broken foot year away from 3 straight 1000 yd seasons. There might not be a ton left in the tank, but for what we're probably gonna ask of him, he's probably got plenty (if he can stay healthy).

Let not forget, as was already mentioned, Joey can lose 2-3 steps and still be faster then 90% of the receivers out there. At the very least, as camp fodder, he'll force some honesty into our revamped backfield

mgteich said:

MANKINS will be an RFA or a UFA next year depending on whether there is a new CBA. I don't expect him back for 2010.

NEAL's contract is up and he may get more elsewhere. In any case, he is injured a lot, and shouldn't be counted on long-term. I think that we are likely to re-sign Neal.

HOCHSTEIN is a permanent back-up, very valuable, but a backup. Hochstein is signed through 2009.

YATES is the last of the guards, mediocre at best, and also signed only through 2009.

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That's a great point. I don't see us bringing back Mankins at big money for the guard position, and Neal is getting old. I would consider guard to be more pressing than ILB or S. So I guess that makes 5 opportunities to improve: OLB, OT, OG, ILB, and S.

maverick4 said:

That's pretty much how I feel too. In order I would see our needs as OLB, OT, ILB, and then S.

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OK, Mav (who's been givin' me crap for whatever reason) I like DE M. Johnson from GT,S.Smith from Utah, T.Goddard from NC and your slut sister who covers everyone.

Patriot_in_NY said:

Galloway is also a broken foot year away from 3 straight 1000 yd seasons. There might not be a ton left in the tank, but for what we're probably gonna ask of him, he's probably got plenty (if he can stay healthy).

Let not forget, as was already mentioned, Joey can lose 2-3 steps and still be faster then 90% of the receivers out there. At the very least, as camp fodder, he'll force some honesty into our revamped backfield

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I checked it out, Galloway was a broken foot away from having 4 straight 1,000 yard seasons. Considering his age, that is impressive. I just hope he has enough left in the tank.

yeah i am loving this as if galloway isn't a upgrade from last year... allbeit short term. this has been a pretty rediculous offseason for the pats. all i could wish for now is to sighn taylor for a normal deal then get bb to work some magic in the draft maybe a 2nd for a 2010 1st e.t.c and that would be awsome

Questions to be asked:

Who is the fastest WR on the Patriots? Joey or Randy?

what is the fastest WR corp in the NFL?

wellcome Joey to the New England Patriots !

14thDragon said:

I would have benn a lot happier if this had happened before we traded for Greg Lewis. I think Galloway will be a tremendous 3rd option, at least until november.

But that is mostly based on I have several co-workers and friends who are big Eagles fans who all described Lewis as a garbage reciever who sucks as a returner.

So now I still think the team needs to draft another reciever, and would need to cut Lewis, and so lost a 5th round pick.

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We have too many draft picks this year. It was very prudent to try and pick up a guy ypou may have saw something in.

mgteich said:

I see OG as a higher need than you do. I would like to see us sign Unger, Mack or Wood in the 2nd, although I can see us waiting until the 3rd and drafting someone like Canfield, Levitre, Luigs or Caldwell. There's a lot of talent available at OG and a significant 2010 need in a year we may not be able to sign top free agents.

MANKINS will be an RFA or a UFA next year depending on whether there is a new CBA. I don't expect him back for 2010.

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I do expect Mankins back, especially if he is an RFA, it will make it easier to retain him. Personally, I think we can't draft assuming a starting-caliber player in the prime of his career is going to be gone in a year. If we do, and then we re-sign Mankins, we might've wasted a draft pick. Neal, I agree, we need to draft depth for him, b/c I also agree w you that Yates doesn't cut it as depth.

But for Mankins specifically, the Patriots have never drafted a year ahead of themselves when it pertains to guys on their team on their rookie deals. As in, they didn't draft a CB the year before Asante's contract was up, they didn't draft WR the year before Givens was gone. They probably saw the Branch fiasco coming, and they didn't factor that into their draft plans.

For veterans, Dillon [Maroney], Harrison [Meriweather], yes they will draft thinking long term. But when a guy is still on his rookie contract, I see no evidence that the Patriots draft with the intention of replacing him until that need is apparent.

Love the signing. He is a better solution than Stallworth back in 07. Just look at the numbers over 06 and 07. Even if Joey is older he was still far more productive than Stallworth. I think Galloway is going to fit this offense like a glove and contribute at a high level provided he can stay healthy.

The biggest difference between the two is Galloway is a finisher when it comes to TD's. He just has the ability to shift and make people miss in the open field which gives him better avg yards per reception than Stallworth thus more explosive TD receptions. I realize that Galloway is 9 more years older than Stallwroth but seems to be less injury prone over the last 3 years. He's not a world beater but he has got big play potential even at the age of 37 which is impressive.

Wotan_the_Wanderer said:

Also, even if the Pats were to draft, say, a Robiskie with one of their first day picks, a battle between Galloway, Lewis, Aiken and Slater for the #4-6 spots isn't the worst scenerio. I really have no problem with having lost a fifth rounder in this year's draft should Lewis be the odd man out given what we've gained via Cassel, Asante and Gay.

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My feeling is who has a better chance to make this team: Greg Lewis, or a late 5th rounder?

Lewis replaces Washington, Galloway replaces Gaffney. I agree, we still draft a Day 1 WR, and I still hope its Robiskie, though would be happy w Britt, Nicks or DHB, amongst others.

JackBauer said:

AD is an OLB.

He could be moved inside in the event of injury, but that weakens us big time on the outside.

Plus it's in our best interest that Bruschi plays as little as possible.

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I think thats why some of us want AD at SILB. The best our defense has played in the last two years was for the games in which AD was at SILB before the Colvin injury in 2007. He can move outside in passing situations.

Really like the signing. Can't wait to see the final roster after camp/pre-season