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I hope Vrabel has a fight in training camp with Pollard and kicks his ass all over the place
 
Comp is still unknown cause cassel is being traded along with vrab. Just hasn't been announced.
 
Something is going down. You don't trade your starting OLB without having any replacement. Woods has not shown enough to indicate he can be a starting OLB and Crable hasn't shown anything yet. The Pats are either getting ready to trade for Peppers, or as many are speculating, Cassel will be traded to the Chiefs for the 3rd pick in the draft. I would rather have Curry or a stud lineman than Peppers. I think the Pats are finally getting it that they need to get fast on defense. Although I appreciate what Vrabel has done for the Pats, it's time to move on.
 
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Right now this makes absolutely no sense, hope we get some more info soon.
 
I can't even express how upset this makes me! :( Good for the team if we get a better deal, but bad for me, personally. Yeah, now I know why they say not to get emotionally attached. Sucks.
 
Something is going down. You don't trade your starting OLB without having any replacement. Woods has not shown enough to indicate he can be a starting OLB and Crable hasn't shown anything yet. The Pats are either getting ready to trade for Peppers, or as many are speculating, Cassel will be traded to the Chiefs for the 3rd pick in the draft. I would rather have Curry or a stud lineman than Peppers. I think the Pats are finally getting it that they need to get fast on defense. Although I appreciate what Vrabel has done for the Pats, it's time to move on.

When you say hasn't shown (insert discription from above), you really mean he hasn't shown you? Correct? Are you in practice everyday, the film room, defensive meetings etc...?

We all get caught up in it from time to time, but I still chuckle when people make definitive statements based on minimal info.
 
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I think you may be right, actually, but Crable was a top performer as well:

NFL Events: Combine Player Profiles - Shawn Crable

according to this site: WalterFootball.com: 2008 NFL Draft Scouting Combine - Outside Linebackers
His combine stats were:

Shawn Crable, Michigan
Height: 6-4. Weight: 245.
Projected 40 Time: 4.59.
Combine 40 Time: 4.64.
Benchx225: 29. Vertical .
Projected Round: 3.

Very good, all around. The key is his weight- the scouting reports say that he can get up to 260, and he's had an awful lot of time to lift a lot of weights over the last year. If he comes into camp at 260, maybe he could be a contributor for us, and provide depth at OLB, along with TBC, that made Vrabel expendable and Woods a starter. As DaBruinz pointed out, a lot of good OLBs take a few years to become a starter, and I see no reason why the same couldn't be true for Crable.

Crable has the physical talent of a 1st rounder. He's prone to making dumb mistakes, and has to put on some weight to be more effective in the league. Right now, I'd say he could step in and be an effective pass-rusher, but lacks the versatility that Vrabel had (naturally, considering his inexperience, and also because he hasn't been required to be quite so involved in the defense while in college.) If he commits himself to football (and I've heard that he has) then I see no reason for Crable not to be an impact player in the league in a year or two. Next year, his upside is that of a pass rush specialist.
 
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LOL - dude, tanked is a pro evaluator: he said so himself! You'd better get the hell outta dodge! :p

He is? Link please.
 
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Crable has the physical talent of a 1st rounder. He's prone to making dumb mistakes, and has to put on some weight to be more effective in the league. Right now, I'd say he could step in and be an effective pass-rusher, but lacks the versatility that Vrabel had (naturally, considering his inexperience, and also because he hasn't been required to be quite so involved in the defense while in college.) If he commits himself to football (and I've heard that he has) then I see no reason for Crable not to be an impact player in the league in a year or two. Next year, his upside is that of a pass rush specialist.

I think it's his chickenlegs that worry a lot of people. The reason he couldn't contribute on ST.

Now if only we could have a linebacker with Guyton's lower body and Crable's upper body. Talk about a great player.
 
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Damnnnnn... decide to get a few hours of work in and look what you miss! WTF?

Called my Uncle in KC and he's ecstatic... then said, "Now send us that damn QB of yours!!"
 
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I think it's his chickenlegs that worry a lot of people. The reason he couldn't contribute on ST.

Now if only we could have a linebacker with Guyton's lower body and Crable's upper body. Talk about a great player.

Eh, I'd say Crable has some lower body strength.
 
Well, it won't be Vilma coming to the team as he just re-signed with New Orleans.
 
Since it's uncertain whether Curry will be there are #3 overall, I think a deal is in place where the Pats will move up to pick Curry at #3 if he's there, KC gets Cassel, and we swap a bunch of picks.

Mike Mayock, the best talent evaluator out there, LOVES Curry, calls him the best player in the draft and without any weaknesses.
 
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Thank You for the Memories. Mike Vrabel, you will always be a Patriot and a champion im my eyes. :youtheman:
 
Something is going down. You don't trade your starting OLB without having any replacement... I would rather have Curry or a stud lineman than Peppers.

I agree. I'm surprised so many people are hell bent on Peppers who has never played in a 3-4. Admittedly, I have not seen much of Peppers play over the last few years, but I vividly remember the Patriots gashing Carolina in Super Bowl 38 when running at Peppers.


Granted, he's arguably the best pass rusher in the league, but how does he stack up against the run?
 
didn't see that coming!!!! Maybe the same type deal as Willie Mac got. "You've served us well and we'll let you go collect a big contract before you retire".
 
Maybe we can trade Bruschi to KC for another mid-round pick......
 
Since it's uncertain whether Curry will be there are #3 overall, I think a deal is in place where the Pats will move up to pick Curry at #3 if he's there, KC gets Cassel, and we swap a bunch of picks.

Mike Mayock, the best talent evaluator out there, LOVES Curry, calls him the best player in the draft and without any weaknesses.

Again, that theory makes no sense to me. If we're trading straight up with KC, it's either going to be the #3 or not. There is no way BB risks an entire offseason on a chance to get Aaron Curray. Not a chance. Once Cassel is traded, this team is going to be what 20 million under the cap? No way they wait until the draft.
 
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