Coaching News: Browns to interview Mangini

Watson's IQ said:

Well, I still hate the guy. That said, my dislike of him doesn't necessarily mean he's as awful a coach as we wish he was. I still think he could be a good NFL head coach one day, I just don't think he was nearly ready for prime time.

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I think that Mangini will learn from this and ultimately be a very good NFL coach.

I don't doubt that Mangini can be a good head coach sometime, but like others have said, I don't see why the Browns feel they have to rush into things. Maybe they are doing their due diligence and spreading their net wide, but I would think that they'd focus on GM first.

He would still be coaching the Jets if Favre didn't ruin the season. You could do much worse then having Mangini as your head coach. He needed better coordinators and I'm sure in his second job he will do much better.

Long Time Jets Fan said:

I think that Mangini will learn from this and ultimately be a very good NFL coach.

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Why do you care? If I were you, I'd be mighty p!ssed at him.

JSn said:

I think Mangini's sentence has been served.

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I don't.

He still needs to pay Belichick $500,000 and then perform Seppuku.

Disco Volante said:

I don't.

He still needs to pay Belichick $500,000 and then perform Seppuku.

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He owes us a #1 pick also.

He can just give us Ghol-

This years pick.

NoCal Patriot said:

Wasn't Cleveland the franchise that didn't think Bill Belichick was a very good coach ? In that light this move makes perfect sense !

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I could actually see them using this logic: Well BB failed with us and then was terrific, let's get a coach who failed somewhere else and have him be terrific for us! Losers, I feel so bad for their fans.

And I do not get the Mangina love here. He took what he was able to learn from BB and parlayed that into a few wins. Once he was done with what he learned from BB he was sunk. He cannot adjust his gameplan mid-game to save his life, and he did nothing to improve that defense, nothing. Not to mention that he cannot find his own personality, his little choir boy voice at his press conferences screamed "phoney!" Say what you want about BB, he has never tried to be anything he is not. Eric TRIED to be mini-BB and FAILED, he will never ever have success as a head coach, just because someone was stupid enough to hire him once does not mean it is inevitible that he will ever be any good.

JSn said:

I think Mangini's sentence has been served. Public derision, firing, etc...

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A few of my favorite things, and an excellent beginning.

Add in a job in which he gets to wear a Chuck E. Cheese costume for two or three years, followed by a one or two year stint with the NFL equipment manager cleaning jocks . . . and I still would not allow him back as a coach.

He had exactly 1 year as a coordinator and made the bad decision to jump to head coach when a hated rival offered him the job (in part I suspect to screw Belichick, not because Mangini was that good). He lacked the experience of running a team and it showed this year when his veterans quit on him at the end of the season. Belichick offered him a chance to learn the trade and he played the prodigal son. A team that hires him hires a sub-.500 coach who has not demonstrated the ability to succeed without Belichick. Good teams don't do that.

TommyBrady12 said:

there is speculation that if Pioli goes to cleveland, McDaniels will be the head coach and Mangini the defensive coordinator.
Romeo may be a special defensive consultant for the browns.

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And this speculation is coming from whom?

linky, link, link please.

I find some of what I'm reading here, frankly, stunning. Are you FSM? Selena Roberts in the NY Times wrote a most appropriate piece on Spygate shortly after the stuff hit the fan. The gist of her piece was that how could any team ever trust Mangini to keep the confidences necessary and be loyal to an organization after what had happened. Regardless of what one thinks of this guy's coaching talent (and I don't think much of it, although I'm admittedly biased), imagine him in a confidential staff meeting with people discussing critical, privileged information among his supervisors and coaching peers. Would you feel comfortable being completely candid the way people need to be in these types of situations with him around? A rhetorical question...

Jackson 2 said:

I find some of what I'm reading here, frankly, stunning. Are you FSM? Selena Roberts in the NY Times wrote a most appropriate piece on Spygate shortly after the stuff hit the fan. The gist of her piece was that how could any team ever trust Mangini to keep the confidences necessary and be loyal to an organization after what had happened. Regardless of what one thinks of this guy's coaching talent (and I don't think much of it, although I'm admittedly biased), imagine him in a confidential staff meeting with people discussing critical, privileged information among his supervisors and coaching peers. Would you feel comfortable being completely candid the way people need to be in these types of situations with him around? A rhetorical question...

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That's why I don't think Pioli and Tubby Ratfink will ever be in the same organization.

TommyBrady12 said:

there is speculation that if Pioli goes to cleveland, McDaniels will be the head coach and Mangini the defensive coordinator.
Romeo may be a special defensive consultant for the browns.

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vyrago said:

And this speculation is coming from whom?

linky, link, link please.

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Evidently John Clayton mentioned is as referenced in this thread :

Scout.com: Clayton: Pioli/Mangini/McDaniels

Talk about Patriot Envy

JSn said:

I think Mangini's sentence has been served. Public derision, firing, etc...

Odds are those hard lessons have been good for him. Perhaps he'll do well, and I wouldn't begrudge him of it.

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No personality and no leadership ability. His players are even coming out about him, and not just Lord Favreshire. You can even see his nebbishness on TV. Mangini will never again have it as good as he did in NE and NY.

jmt57 said:

Shouldn't they be interviewing potential GM's first, and then after he's hired get his input in to the hiring of the coach?

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Maybe the Browns aren't as stupid as we think.

If I was the Browns owner I would interview Eric on the pretense of hiring, just to get his assessment of how much of the Patriots success was Scott, how much was BB, and how much was Ernie.

Do we really know who makes the ultimate personnel decisions for the Patriots? Eric might.

Could effect how hard I go after Scott.

Also if I was an owner I might interview head coaches while interviewing GMs. I would hire the GM first and the coach candidates would have to do another round of interviews with the GM. But no reason not to start doing interviews.

TheGodInAGreyHoodie said:

Could effect how hard I go after Scott.

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No at all. Might affect it, though.

It's stuff like this that makes me go to gas stations with no "no personal cheques excepted".

LOL that's great news. All the more reason to expect Pioli won't go.

jmt57 said:

Shouldn't they be interviewing potential GM's first, and then after he's hired get his input in to the hiring of the coach?

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I think that Mangini will only take the Browns job if he can bring his own front office guy's, and he will want to be his own GM.

I liked Eric and am sorry to see him go, I would of liked to see him get 1 more year with the Jets. He will be a good coach some day.

as for mangini's replacement in NY.. I hope it's not Cowher..

FOX Sports on MSN - NFL - Report: Jets to talk with Cowher about coaching job

JSn said:

No at all. Might affect it, though.

It's stuff like this that makes me go to gas stations with no "no personal cheques excepted".

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Whoa! We don't speak Canadian here.