Pats can still win the Super Bowl

Too much talent, too good coaching, and now a legitimate "chip on their shoulders" to play with. Anything's possible...

There's clearly enough talent to win 11/12 games. We'll see what happens...

Rocky said:

I'm not going to say it's impossible, but lets face the facts. The Pats squeaked by the Chiefs today at home. That does not bode well. The D is not one of the best in the NFL. They are good, but they have holes. Cassell stinks. Horrible opening day.

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The Colts lost to the Bears, the Chargers lost to the Panthers. Whats your point?

D-cleater said:

Ofcourse they can. Any team can win the super bowl. Except for the Jets. And St louis. And oh yeah, KC, who came one play from tying the game in the 4th Qtr.

If we have no more season ending injuries to starters and the team plays REALLY inspired football, we could claw our way back to the playoffs. SB ? The odds are against it. There are just too many teams that are hungrier and they will be playing with confidence.

I think this season will be fun to watch, in a way much different than last year, but lets not set unrealistic expectations. If this team falls in behind Cassel and plays its best football, they will be competitive.

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Claw our way back to the playoffs? We are still miles ahead of the rest of our division. With Brady the division race is a joke, without him, we are still easily the best team in the division.

AndyJohnson said:

Claw our way back to the playoffs? We are still miles ahead of the rest of our division. With Brady the division race is a joke, without him, we are still easily the best team in the division.

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I agree, Andy. The Dolphins only came one pass away from BEATING the Jets. I was watching that, wishing (to shut up my Favre-loving buddy) for it.

Cassell did what we wanted Brady to do. Win. Why? Team effort.
Today, the Pat's were better than a couple of teams projected to be running at the SB.

Go team.

JSn said:

I agree, Andy. The Dolphins only came one pass away from BEATING the Jets. I was watching that, wishing (to shut up my Favre-loving buddy) for it.

Cassell did what we wanted Brady to do. Win. Why? Team effort.
Today, the Pat's were better than a couple of teams projected to be running at the SB.

Go team.

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The Chiefs were one pass of tying the Pats.

K-Ro 25 said:

The Chiefs were one pass of tying the Pats.

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Where the Dolphins facing a Jets team that had just lost Favre to injury?

Deus Irae said:

Where the Dolphins facing a Jets team that had just lost Favre to injury?

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we were up 20-7 and outplayed them thoroughly. We also played 3 quarters w/o a kicker which not only took points off the board it killed us in the field position game.

K-Ro 25 said:

we were up 20-7 and outplayed them thoroughly. We also played 3 quarters w/o a kicker which not only took points off the board it killed us in the field position game.

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So the answer to my question would be...?

Deus Irae said:

So the answer to my question would be...?

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the answer to your question is no, but some are saying the Pats are going to put an improbable SB run together but have to go to the wire to beat the Chiefs. No kicker legitimately took 6 points off the board and gave the fins the ball at the 40 every time we scored

we would have a better chance with Guiterez. How ever you spell his name. Oh yeah, I forgot. We cut our best pre season QB before the season started.

K-Ro 25 said:

the answer to your question is no, but some are saying the Pats are going to put an improbable SB run together but have to go to the wire to beat the Chiefs. No kicker legitimately took 6 points off the board and gave the fins the ball at the 40 every time we scored

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While your defense of a Jets team that almost lost the the worst team in the NFL last year is admirable, Favre was still the QB, and if The Kick Returner had the ball skills of even <gasp> Chad Jackson, the Dolphins would be 1-0.

Rocky said:

I'm not going to say it's impossible, but lets face the facts. The Pats squeaked by the Chiefs today at home. That does not bode well. The D is not one of the best in the NFL. They are good, but they have holes. Cassell stinks. Horrible opening day.

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That's great. The Chargers lost to the Panthers at home and the Colts lost to the Bears at home. Both were 9-10pt favorites. I'd rather squeak by and win.

Deus Irae said:

While your defense of a Jets team that almost lost the the worst team in the NFL last year is admirable, Favre was still the QB, and if The Kick Returner had the ball skills of even <gasp> Chad Jackson, the Dolphins would be 1-0.

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Chad Pennington and this years fins are just as good if not better then the Chiefs. Im not pumping us up to be world beaters. I just honestly feel that the game never gets to that point at the end if we have a kicker. A kicker gives us the pat we could not go for, the chip shot FG we missed earlier and better field position for our opponents then the 40.

we are looking at 9 or 10 wins. if we catch a ton of breaks, we can make a deep playoff run.

but some of you are overrating the offensive weapons. Randy Moss is the 2nd best WR of all time, yes. but Welker in Miami - ie with an average or below average QB - was a JAG. Gaffney was on the street. Jordan was cut. these are guys who anyteam could have had for free or for a fairly small price tag. they all looked great with Brady.

Brady to Brown said:

The Colts lost to the Bears, the Chargers lost to the Panthers. Whats your point?

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Oops, sorry, I just made the exact same point in response to that post. And not only did SD & Indy lose, they lost pretty bad.

I know SD had the lead at the end, but CAR controlled that entire game and probably averaged 5.5 ypc. They were absolutely gashed up the middle. Same with Indy.

Both of those defenses have much bigger ?s than the Patriots.

The simple fact is, the Pats might luck out with a down year in the AFC. I for one will not give up hopes of a SB. Until I watch 3-4 straight games of below-average football from a Brady-less Pats, they are still a contender IMO.

The fact is this team goes 3-0 into the bye with Cassel, these same posters will be once singing the praises of BB genius.

Oh ye of little faith ...

K-Ro 25 said:

the answer to your question is no, but some are saying the Pats are going to put an improbable SB run together but have to go to the wire to beat the Chiefs. No kicker legitimately took 6 points off the board and gave the fins the ball at the 40 every time we scored

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Dude, are you from Green Bay? That last pass by Favre was absolute luck.
He's going to pull that crap against some real defenses and get cooked.

And thoroughly outplaying a team would be us against the Bills last year, not winning by six points.

makewayhomer said:

we are looking at 9 or 10 wins. if we catch a ton of breaks, we can make a deep playoff run.

but some of you are overrating the offensive weapons. Randy Moss is the 2nd best WR of all time, yes. but Welker in Miami - ie with an average or below average QB - was a JAG. Gaffney was on the street. Jordan was cut. these are guys who anyteam could have had for free or for a fairly small price tag. they all looked great with Brady.

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Sorry, when did Jordan look great with Brady again?

JSn said:

Dude, are you from Green Bay? That last pass by Favre was absolute luck.
He's going to pull that crap against some real defenses and get cooked.

And thoroughly outplaying a team would be us against the Bills last year, not winning by six points.

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Or the Bills absolute manhandling of Seattle. Honestly, the fact that the Bills look like a 10-6 team worries me more than anything else in the AFC.

PatDaPatriot said:

Too much talent, too good coaching, and now a legitimate "chip on their shoulders" to play with. Anything's possible...

There's clearly enough talent to win 11/12 games. We'll see what happens...

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also, the Vegas o/u on wins WITH Brady was 12.5. if your expectation (which is what really matters, not "what could happen if a hundred things go our way") is now down at least 3 games

JSn said:

Dude, are you from Green Bay? That last pass by Favre was absolute luck.
He's going to pull that crap against some real defenses and get cooked.

And thoroughly outplaying a team would be us against the Bills last year, not winning by six points.

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no we would take the points if we had a kicker