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The number is very likely to decrease in the next couple of days, or after Faulk returns.
The number is very likely to decrease in the next couple of days, or after Faulk returns.
I think that its more likely that Morris, Jones, Ventrone or Aiken are liable to get cut in the next few days than it is for Guyton, Wilhite or the other rookies to get cut.
For this point of the discussion I will be a "glass half empty" guy. Having that many rookies make the team means only one thing.....we are very thin talent wise!! In the last few years it would have been inconcievable for 2 rookies to be STARTING on a BB defense. I suggest that their first 2 picks were NEED picks(and may pan out that way)as their FA colleagues couldnt beat em out(Hobson/Mayo, Wheatley/Bryant, Wilhite/Webster). What does this mean??
I would say that there wasnt a single player from last years roster who lost their job to a rookie, right? We lost a large number of free agents/salary cap cuts and the free agents we replaced them with either were outplayed or were futher salary cap casualties. To me this inbalance falls on the management not recognizing the value of our FAs compared to the ones available elsewhere. How many FAs we signed in the offseason actually made the team??
Guys lost/replacements
Seau/Mayo
Colvin/Crable
Samuel/Wheatley
Gay/Wilhite
Andrews/Sanders
Stallworth/CJ Jones
K.Brady/Spach
Eckel/Jordan
While its nice to get younger/cheaper(I think some of these cuts should leave $$ to resign guys like Vince to long term deals) there is no arguement that we LOST A TON OF TALENT this year.
Could be, although I'll stay with the idea of at least one more rookie getting the axe. I don't have a firm grasp on Belioli's thinking about the bottom of this order. I'm figuring on at least 3 players getting axed to bring in/back Faulk, Seau and a CB. An OL addition won't shock me, either.
Wow, on sunny days do you bore everyone with talk on the ozone layer? I mean, really. If you've been paying attention at all, this many rookies made the team because they're good. Mayo, obviously. Wheatley looks great. But those are the #1 and #2 picks, they should stick. The 2 #3's, Crable and O'Connell, should stick on draft status alone. It's a rare team that cuts players taken that high, but you know, they both looked pretty good as well.For this point of the discussion I will be a "glass half empty" guy.
1) Colvin couldn't pass a physical. That's why he was cut. He also was cut by the Texans. When 100% healthy, I'd agree with you
2) Andrews was replaced by Slater, not Lewis Sanders. I would say this is a push since Andrews basically took himself off the team with his legal issues.
3) Stallworth was replaced by Jackson, not CJ Jones. Stallworth was also the one who wrote himself out of the offense by the end of last year.
4) Spach finsihed last year on the roster. Not sure how you can say he is Kyle Brady's replacement.
5) Eckel to Jordan is an upgrade the last I looked. Do you think otherwise?
6) I'd say that Lewis Sanders replaced Gay and its unknown whether we lost talent there.
Yes, the Patriots lost talent. But they replaced quite a bit of it. The major imbalance would be Samuel to Wheatley. That's really the only place I see a question mark.
SEVEN rookies made the 53.
That is simply amazing to me.
(Mayo, Crable, Wheately, Wilhite, Slater, Guyton, O'Connell)
Having that many rookies make the team means only one thing.....we are very thin talent wise!!
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I would say that there wasnt a single player from last years roster who lost their job to a rookie, right?
We lost a large number of free agents/salary cap cuts and the free agents we replaced them with either were outplayed or were futher salary cap casualties. To me this inbalance falls on the management not recognizing the value of our FAs compared to the ones available elsewhere. How many FAs we signed in the offseason actually made the team??
Guys lost/replacements
Seau/Mayo
Colvin/Crable
Samuel/Wheatley
Gay/Wilhite
Andrews/Sanders
Stallworth/CJ Jones
K.Brady/Spach
Wilson/Lynch
Eckel/Jordan
While its nice to get younger/cheaper(I think some of these cuts should leave $$ to resign guys like Vince to long term deals) there is no arguement that we LOST A TON OF TALENT this year.
In a BB defense I think a 39 yr old former all pro LB has more TALENT(knowing the system and being able to play it) than a first round pick. The Samuel comparison is obvious. To start the season, Colvin had a HUGE amount of talent over Crable. I will accept the Andrews/Slater arguement and you were also right on the Jordan/Eckel but I would have thought that was more obvious. I think Gay would have had more value in our system simply because he knew it having been here(and what was their respective cap numbers??). Jackson was on the roster last year, CJ Jones wasnt so I think that is a fair comparison. Stupar was the 3rd TE behind Brady, so I guess I should have said Brady/Thomas?? There are several other STers swapped out as well, but the overall loss of TALENT I thought was obvious.
Wow, on sunny days do you bore everyone with talk on the ozone layer? I mean, really. If you've been paying attention at all, this many rookies made the team because they're good. Mayo, obviously. Wheatley looks great. But those are the #1 and #2 picks, they should stick. The 2 #3's, Crable and O'Connell, should stick on draft status alone. It's a rare team that cuts players taken that high, but you know, they both looked pretty good as well.
So why keep all four of those? Because they had 4 high draft picks this year. That's why. Not because the sun went behind a cloud.
What about Wilhite? Did you watch the 4th preseason game? He looked terrific. Would he have been washed out in a numbers game if they had good corners? No, Richardson got washed, Bryant got washed. Wilhite is the real deal -- you watch.
How about Guyton? Are you going to tell me he barely made the team? Another great find.
When vets beat out rookies, your cap is higher and your future is lower. When rookies beat out vets, you're in much better shape for the future. With a team considered one of the oldest teams in football, how can you possibly hope that rookies will be cut in favor of older vets?
Let Mangini load up for one year. Belichick plans for the future.
This team just got younger and faster on defense. That's a fact.
Now you're going to tell me that I'm a blind homer. Wrong again. The Oline has real problems and no good solutions until Neal is off PUP. They should have drafted or signed better depth when it was available. Bryant was a disappointment, not the first time the FO has screwed up a vet CB signing. This time, at least, they were smart enough not to take him into the season. But I believe by the end of the year, with three fast DBs and three solid vet DBs, they'll be fine.
??? He was cut.Make it nine - BJGE