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I am NOT one of the Chad Jackson super fans out there, I too have been very disappointed in his extremely slow progression.

Take Jackson out of that and there are still plenty of people to throw the ball to. Its not like we are dying for more pass catchers like David Thomas.

What I mean is I would like to see some good play from Thomas whether its in his blocking or receiving. I want him to stay healthy very consistently and hopefully get some good playing time. I'm hardly excited for a guy who hasn't played much in Dave Thomas, kind of like Chad Jackson.

Yeah I agree, I just figured I would point it out given the CJ love on this board.
However, I don't really get what you mean in terms of potential. Isn't the point of potential so that you can get excited about a guy before he actually produces?
 
It's football. There are injuries. Not all injuries are season ending or even last for more than a few days.

Before we do the "made of glass" thing, we could wait and see what's up.

Silly me, this is a message board, of coarse we won't wait to see what's really going on.

Please continue.
 
It's football. There are injuries. Not all injuries are season ending or even last for more than a few days.

Before we do the "made of glass" thing, we could wait and see what's up.

Silly me, this is a message board, of coarse we won't wait to see what's really going on.

Please continue.

I don't think people are pulling a "Maroney is made of glass" yet...I think it's more people just having high hopes for DT and would be disappointed if he were to miss any significant time.
 
It's football. There are injuries. Not all injuries are season ending or even last for more than a few days.

Before we do the "made of glass" thing, we could wait and see what's up.

Silly me, this is a message board, of coarse we won't wait to see what's really going on.

Please continue.

Words of wisdom.

Holy ****, everybody! Thomas could be back on the field tomorrow morning for all we know. Let's leave the jump-to-conclusion opining to ESPN and not get our panties in a bunch over something so volatile.
 
Guys - I agree with you that we all have high hopes and he has a lot of potential.

Now with that out of the way, its fair to say that if every fan of every franchise had as high expectations for 3rd round picks that, excluding one game, has logged 80 yards receiving in 38 team games, there would be a lot of future stars out there.

Lets be reasonable. Meet me in the middle.
 
The tabloid reporter has the scoop. He either was or wasn't limping. If he was, it was slight. And he was favoring is ankle. Either one, apparently.
 
He has already secured his status as the new 'Stephen Neal' on this team.
 
It's football. There are injuries. Not all injuries are season ending or even last for more than a few days.

Before we do the "made of glass" thing, we could wait and see what's up.

Silly me, this is a message board, of coarse we won't wait to see what's really going on.

Please continue.

....from the wilderness,a voice of reason

My head explodes when I hear:
1.injury-prone,made of glass
2.step-up
3.not living up to the potential of a 1st rd or 2nd rd pick...etcetera,etcetera...ad nauseum

Injuries are 95% luck...as in BAD luck.
Receivers like CJ are like skittish colts(small c...sorry,Peyton).The smallest injury to their wheels and their on the shelf.Sorry,but it's the nature of the beast.

Understand this,though,the Pats are LOADED...almost everywhere.Unlike most teams,we can afford to intergrate young players into the system.

At best,Jackson is our #3 receiver.If he progresses slowly....so what.....like Maroney and Hobbs,he's still just a kid......24yrs old?
With Moss,Welker,Watson and Faulk,he's just not gonna get a lot of reps.

Receivers like Marques Colston are the aberration,not the norm.I really like CJ,but his progress has been ******ed by bad luck and a stacked roster.If he works out,fine,if not we have plenty of future draft choices.

Regarding David Thomas...IMHO,he's going to be our Dallas Clark.Watson is on a 6 year rookie contract and I believe he will be gone after 2009.
I believe BB is going back to the "jumbo",ball-control offense....score 28-30 points and don't let them have the ball.
In this system,everyone gets more rest and statistics,be damned.

Snall ball or big ball,this team is a juggernaught.
 
Understand this,though,the Pats are LOADED...almost everywhere.Unlike most teams,we can afford to intergrate young players into the system.

Good point. We have areas of concern as PATRIOT'S fans. We still have to SOMETIMES mark those against other teams. If Brady is connecting passes with non-reel WR's and IF our corners can pick him off from time to time, we should be happy. Balance in a team where our offense is just plain psychotic is a good thing. If we see big imbalances, then we have issues.

Stacked. And I have a feeling upgrades at a couple positions are still coming.

And whiners be darned, Kaczur is going to show up this year.
 
It's football. There are injuries. Not all injuries are season ending or even last for more than a few days.

Before we do the "made of glass" thing, we could wait and see what's up.

Silly me, this is a message board, of coarse we won't wait to see what's really going on.

Please continue.

silly 'nut'. you know this is what we do best on this board :D
 
Guys - I agree with you that we all have high hopes and he has a lot of potential.

Now with that out of the way, its fair to say that if every fan of every franchise had as high expectations for 3rd round picks that, excluding one game, has logged 80 yards receiving in 38 team games, there would be a lot of future stars out there.

Lets be reasonable. Meet me in the middle.

But let's not forget that he was stuck behind two first-round draft picks his rookie season.
 
It's football. There are injuries. Not all injuries are season ending or even last for more than a few days.

Before we do the "made of glass" thing, we could wait and see what's up.

Silly me, this is a message board, of coarse we won't wait to see what's really going on.

Please continue.

wait and see...with this team we may wait and still dont see. So speculation now is as good as speculation in a few days.
 
Tight end is especially thin on this team - the riskiest it has been since 2001.

Watson has had his share of injuries, and is not an elite blocker. He's also been hot and cold as a receiver.
Thomas has been injured his entire tenure here.
Pollard is past his prime.
Then there are a couple unheralded undrafted rookie types.
No big blocking back, which the team has used well.

Presumably with Welker this Patriots team uses less two-TE formations, but it has still been an important offensive grouping, especially for dealing with teams that follow the Giants blueprint.

I would watch cuts around the league. I would not be surprised to see the Patriots pick up a new third tight end, someone that is a blocker first, and has proved durable. I don't see the right mix on this team.
 
Thomas has been injured his entire tenure here.


I don't know why I keep having to correct this point (and not just on this board), but . . .

NO HE HAS NOT.

He was active in 15 of 16 RS games his rookie season, mostly on special teams. The only reason he didn't get much playing time was because there were two first-round draft picks ahead of him on the roster.
 
Wow, listen you guys. He was out one season, so was Watson. Both starting TEs are coming off injuries, naturally they're going to be careful, esp. since they've got 1 starter and 3 backups to take the practice snaps.

My concern is that about both TEs, that they're both coming off injury. It is a general concern and I try not to panic when someone WALKS off the field.

Compare it to Woods, say, who pulled up and then continued to practice. Woods is fighting for a job in a crowded field. Probably has one but no guarantee. He needs to stay out there.

Thomas is fighting for a job as well, but it hinges more on his health than on beating out competition. He needs to make sure he's okay. Different approaches for different players.
 
If the Guy can't stay on the field ,I don't see what value he is to this team.It's time for Him to suck it up and play.
 
A breakout year for DT would be practicing for a week staright without getting injured.

Baby steps DT, baby steps...
 
This guy is real brittle. It's a shame too because he has some real ability as a receiving TE. What's amazing about his injuries is that they're always season ending. It's not even as if he misses 4 weeks, or half a season even. This guy shows up, gets tackled, and then gets carted into storage for next year.
 
This guy is real brittle. It's a shame too because he has some real ability as a receiving TE. What's amazing about his injuries is that they're always season ending. It's not even as if he misses 4 weeks, or half a season even. This guy shows up, gets tackled, and then gets carted into storage for next year.

To borrow an appropriate smiley from the Planet:

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Thomas had no injury issues in college, and no injury issues his rookie season.

He broke his foot during the OTAs last April/May (someone here posted that he dropped a weight on his foot or something). For reasons I don't understand, the Pats were so anxious to get him on the field that instead of putting him on PUP, they activated him and left him inactive for the first few weeks; he somehow reaggravated the injury, and the Pats then put him on IR. I think if the Pats had kept him on PUP and then activated him around Week 9 or so, he wouldn't have ended up on IR. [Note: this is obviously speculation, but not an unreasonable one.]

So posts like this one are the perfect example of Overgeneralizing from Small Sample Size Theatre.
 
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