Least favorite starting Patriot?

[PullaRandyMoss81]

Who was your least favorite starting patriot in the 07-08 season?
My least favorite pat is Benjamin Watson. He was our starting TE last year and though he has the perfect body to be a great tight end he continues to SUCK! Plus with injury issues and his unreliable hands it makes him 10 times worse. Who is ur least fav?

 

[BelichickFan]

Watson may not play up to his physical talent but he does not suck. At worst he is an above average starting TE.

Mine would be Kazzur - and that was before the incident this offseason.

 

[Kontradiction]

Mine is Ellis Hobbs until he impresses me. Going through the games from last year and watching them this weekend, I noticed that his picks were balls that were pretty much thrown right at him by the quarterback. I also noticed that on every touchdown pass he gave up (including the one to Burress in the SB) he was trailing the receiver by at least 10 yards. If we go to more of a man coverage scheme this year and he impresses me, I will retract that statement. Until then, he is my least favorite starting Patriot.

 

[363839]

I think it's time this Tom Brady guy start pulling his weight around here.

Seriously though, I got to go with.....Hobbs.
That's only because I saw him get depantsed in the SB.
I think he'll bounce back, though.

 

[DefenseRules]

Nick Kaczur and Ellis Hobbs drive me crazy.

Matt Light is trailing behind them too.

 

[signbabybrady]

Mine is Ellis Hobbs until he impresses me. Going through the games from last year and watching them this weekend, I noticed that his picks were balls that were pretty much thrown right at him by the quarterback. I also noticed that on every touchdown pass he gave up (including the one to Burress in the SB) he was trailing the receiver by at least 10 yards. If we go to more of a man coverage scheme this year and he impresses me, I will retract that statement. Until then, he is my least favorite starting Patriot.

I don't think you are watching him very fairly. First off he wasn't ten yards from Buress on the last play. Also usually when a guy lets up a TD it is because the guy got past him, I would be concerned if he was letting up TDs and he was a yard away from the guy.

How many TDs did you see him give up? do you know what kind of coverage they were in? Is it possible his saftey help wasn't there?

IMO Hobbs is a very good corner one worthy of starting for most of the teams in this league. He has yet to make the jump from a solid starting CB to an elite CB but I think people get fixated on Law and Asante and think he hasn't done what they have and dis him.

if he is healthy he will be our best CB this year and that doesn't worry me. I am concerned about his health (if his injuries from last year still have us concerned is that not enough to show that he played thru alot last year).

 

[PatsFan37]

Mine is Ellis Hobbs until he impresses me. Going through the games from last year and watching them this weekend, I noticed that his picks were balls that were pretty much thrown right at him by the quarterback. I also noticed that on every touchdown pass he gave up (including the one to Burress in the SB) he was trailing the receiver by at least 10 yards. If we go to more of a man coverage scheme this year and he impresses me, I will retract that statement. Until then, he is my least favorite starting Patriot.

He's your least favorite? Then what the heck does it take to be your favorite?

He breaks his wrist and is back on the field two weeks later and guts out the rest of the season. Then he plays the next season with a torn labrum and a sports hernia, the latter injury good enough to ground a high-profile quarterback.

This team abounds with tough, tough players and Ellis Hobbs stands tall among them. You might take issue with the quality of his play, but to call him your least favorite player does him a great disservice.

Rodney may no longer be the best safety on this team. He remains my favorite player.

OK, rant over. I feel better now.

 

[signbabybrady]

He's your least favorite? Then what the heck does it take to be your favorite?

He breaks his wrist and is back on the field two weeks later and guts out the rest of the season. Then he plays the next season with a torn labrum and a sports hernia, the latter injury good enough to ground a high-profile quarterback.

This team abounds with tough, tough players and Ellis Hobbs stands tall among them. You might take issue with the quality of his play, but to call him your least favorite player does him a great disservice.

Rodney may no longer be the best safety on this team. He remains my favorite player.

OK, rant over. I feel better now.

Thats a very good point too. I Don't think his play is as bad as people say either (not even close).

 

[ScottieC]

Who was your least favorite starting patriot in the 07-08 season?
My least favorite pat is Benjamin Watson. He was our starting TE last year and though he has the perfect body to be a great tight end he continues to SUCK! Plus with injury issues and his unreliable hands it makes him 10 times worse. Who is ur least fav?

I don't like this thread.

I like all our guys.

I'm a Unapologetic Patriots Homer.

 

[Kontradiction]

He's your least favorite? Then what the heck does it take to be your favorite?

He breaks his wrist and is back on the field two weeks later and guts out the rest of the season. Then he plays the next season with a torn labrum and a sports hernia, the latter injury good enough to ground a high-profile quarterback.

This team abounds with tough, tough players and Ellis Hobbs stands tall among them. You might take issue with the quality of his play, but to call him your least favorite player does him a great disservice.

Rodney may no longer be the best safety on this team. He remains my favorite player.

OK, rant over. I feel better now.

How does it do him a great disservice? It's simply my opinion. He has all my respect in the world for being tough but the fact of the matter is that everytime I watched one of our cornerbacks get burned for a big play last year, it was Hobbs. Now, he may be better off in man coverage which is what we might switch to this year, but on a team with no real dramatically terrible players he stands out the most. That's JMO. Who is your least favorite player? I would be glad to point out all the positive things he does too just for the sake of arguing.

 

[signbabybrady]

How does it do him a great disservice? It's simply my opinion. He has all my respect in the world for being tough but the fact of the matter is that everytime I watched one of our cornerbacks get burned for a big play last year, it was Hobbs..

So than you only watched Hobbs last year?

Your saying you never saw Asante get burned or gay

define irony: He asks how am I doing him a great diservice than goes on to say the only CB he saw get burnt was Hobbs.

 

[alvinnf]

nick "leaning forward" kaczur

 

[belichickaholic]

Easily Ellis Hobbs. If they had a statistic for "most burned player in the NFL" he'd win hands down. That said, he's one of the best kick returners I've ever seen.

 

[PATRIOTSFANINPA]

Right now I got to go with Richard Seymour - Excuses about injury has been a big thing for the past few years but know it looks as if he is near 100% - excuses end in 2008.

Injuries aside,he has not be even 10% of his earlier years since he got the big contact - But yet he gets pro bowl attention because of his earlier glory years still even if Warren and Wilfork deserve more.

I may be bashed for my opinion here but I think Seymour is no longer a top lineman in this league,at least has not played like one in the past several years - and that is when he WAS healthy at times.

If he continues lackluster play if healthy in 2008 then I say goodbye in 2009 when his contract is up.

 

[fthft]

Probably james sanders...no real reason he just doesn't stand out to me.

 

[Tunescribe]

I don't like this thread.

I like all our guys.

I'm a Unapologetic Patriots Homer.

I don't understand the intent behind this negativity myself. There always will be starting players who struggle at one time or another on any team. Why focus on picking someone you can harp on?

 

[Deus Irae]

How does it do him a great disservice? It's simply my opinion. He has all my respect in the world for being tough but the fact of the matter is that everytime I watched one of our cornerbacks get burned for a big play last year, it was Hobbs. Now, he may be better off in man coverage which is what we might switch to this year, but on a team with no real dramatically terrible players he stands out the most. That's JMO. Who is your least favorite player? I would be glad to point out all the positive things he does too just for the sake of arguing.

Ellis Hobbs was the team's best defensive back last season, and that was with him playing through injuries. Your opinion is probably tainted by the plays where he wasn't the one responsible for the coverage but was still the closest defender on the play because he was trying to bail someone else out, such as the Davenport touchdown.

 

[hyperpat]

How does it do him a great disservice? It's simply my opinion. He has all my respect in the world for being tough but the fact of the matter is that everytime I watched one of our cornerbacks get burned for a big play last year, it was Hobbs. Now, he may be better off in man coverage which is what we might switch to this year, but on a team with no real dramatically terrible players he stands out the most. That's JMO. Who is your least favorite player? I would be glad to point out all the positive things he does too just for the sake of arguing.

Maybe You should pay a bit more attention to the fact that football is a team game. Teams were throwing away from Samuel last season and throwing toward Hobbs. What do you expect of Hobbs? What cornerback doesn't get beaten sometimes if teams are running formations and schemes to throw his way? And I guess all those times he got beat really hurt the Pats, considering all the games the games they lost last season.

And if you are going to rag on Hobbs, which seems to be a cult around here, for the last G-men touchdown, then at least realize that Hobbs said he was playing Burress so he did not beat Hobbs over the middle. Where was the safety help on that play? Oh, yeah, that's right, they were blitzing because Dean Pees called a middle blitz. I guess that was Hobbs' fault, too.

As for having the ball thrown right to him, at least he caught those interceptions. More than you can say for Asante, who dropped a duck tossed up by Eli that would have won the game.

 

[Mr.Muhozi]

has to be our RT nick kacur, apart from that i like/dont mind our line up

 

[PATRIOTSFANINPA]

I am surprised no one said Marcus Pollard although he is not really a starter - yet.

Remember this little ditty by Pollard? - http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=940CE5DC1639F934A25752C0A9629C8B63