OT: Jaguars to LA?

[bbabin]

This isn't the most convincing article, but it would be very interesting...

http://blogs.usatoday.com/gameon/2008/07/jacksonville-ja.html

How would this affect the divisions if it were to happen?

 

[BelichickFan]

Doubt it would affect the divisions. St. Louis is in the west. They won't mess with divisions based on moves, they would only do it if they were re-alligning like when they went from 3-4 divisions per conference.

 

[BradfordPatsFan]

Doubt it would affect the divisions. St. Louis is in the west. They won't mess with divisions based on moves, they would only do it if they were re-alligning like when they went from 3-4 divisions per conference.

That is a three time-zone difference for divisional games. Plus would they really want to make Peyton fly all the way to LA every year plus perhaps have to fly out for NFC/AFC west games? Oh the whining that would come from Indy if that were to happen...

Just move KC to the AFC South and Jax to the west. Or you could get into some conference swapping, a la the Seahawks moving to the NFC when Houston (or was it Cleveland?) was brought into the league.

 

[BelichickFan]

That is a three time-zone difference for divisional games. Plus would they really want to make Peyton fly all the way to LA every year plus perhaps have to fly out for NFC/AFC west games? Oh the whining that would come from Indy if that were to happen...

Have they ever changed divisions based solely on a single team moving ? I'm not saying they haven't but I don't remember it.

 

[pats1]

That is a three time-zone difference for divisional games. Plus would they really want to make Peyton fly all the way to LA every year plus perhaps have to fly out for NFC/AFC west games? Oh the whining that would come from Indy if that were to happen...

Just move KC to the AFC South and Jax to the west. Or you could get into some conference swapping, a la the Seahawks moving to the NFC when Houston (or was it Cleveland?) was brought into the league.

I think that would upset some rivalries, though.

 

[BradfordPatsFan]

I think that would upset some rivalries, though.

You are correct, and I thought of that too, KC vs Oakland and Denver are great rivalries. However, KC would still likely play one of the other three remaining west teams almost yearly and every 3rd year would play all of them. It is not exactly a devastating loss to the schedule.

 

[BradfordPatsFan]

Have they ever changed divisions based solely on a single team moving ? I'm not saying they haven't but I don't remember it.

I dont think they have but to me it makes more sense. JMHO.

 

[37Harrison]

Right now they are just in talks about selling the team, there is no talk (as of yet) about them moving anywhere. One of the local sports guys down here who has a lot of connections inside the Jaguars org. is confident that they won't be moving anytime soon. Wayne Weaver is getting old and he didn't groom any of his sons to take over for him which is why this talk is out there now.

There aren't enough things to do or see in this city as is, if they were to move I can see a lot of people leaving right behind them.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Since it would inconvenience Satan Manning, I say keep the divisions as is.

 

[PatsDparty]

Considering Dallas plays in the NFC East, I think the NFL favors rivalries over geographic location.

 

[Sivy]

Have they ever changed divisions based solely on a single team moving ? I'm not saying they haven't but I don't remember it.

It's the colts, they'll do anything for them.

 

[Crowpointer]

The could be the start of the race to Los Angeles. Some Chargers fans seem resigned to the team moving north. With the Jags now rumoured to be looking westward this could speed up the race.

 

[upstater1]

I find it VERY difficult to believe the NFL owners aren't greedy enough to charge some LA guy 1.3 billion for a LA Franchise.

Very difficult to believe that.

Maybe they'll settle for $500 million from the guy that buys the Jags and moves them to LA, $500 million to be paid to the NFL on top of what the new owner pays Weaver.

Does anyone think the owners are going to really give away $1.3 billion dollars?

I don't. If you insist on a surcharge for a move, it would be almost like the equivalent of contracting one team and adding another, without setting the players adrift in a dispersal draft.

(I wonder if the potential new owner, Metropoulos, is any relation to the guitar amplifier maker.)

 

[Kontradiction]

Right now they are just in talks about selling the team, there is no talk (as of yet) about them moving anywhere. One of the local sports guys down here who has a lot of connections inside the Jaguars org. is confident that they won't be moving anytime soon. Wayne Weaver is getting old and he didn't groom any of his sons to take over for him which is why this talk is out there now.

There aren't enough things to do or see in this city as is, if they were to move I can see a lot of people leaving right behind them.

Actually, Wayne Weaver made it pretty clear that he's not selling the team to Metropolous.

 

[godef]

That is a three time-zone difference for divisional games. Plus would they really want to make Peyton fly all the way to LA every year plus perhaps have to fly out for NFC/AFC west games? Oh the whining that would come from Indy if that were to happen...

Just move KC to the AFC South and Jax to the west. Or you could get into some conference swapping, a la the Seahawks moving to the NFC when Houston (or was it Cleveland?) was brought into the league.

I was thinking that. The NFC lack teams in the far west (only SF and Seattle, whereas the AFC has SD, Oakland, Arizona). I say swap Jax=>LA for the Rams. The irony would be tha tthe Rams were formerly an LA team.

 

[godef]

I dont think they have but to me it makes more sense. JMHO.

While they're at it, move Baltimore to the East, Miami to the South, and Indy to the North.

Or move Dallas to the West and St. Louis to the East.

Just pointing out that that are lots of regional exceptions to the current ENSW divisional alignments in each conference. It may as well be the NCAA Mens Basketball tournament.

Back in the old NFL in the 50's, the Baltimore Colts played in the west and the Chicago Cardinals played in the east (albeit the latter I believe had to do with splitting up the two Chicago teams for whatever reason).

More recently, Atlanta and New Orleans used to be west division teams. When SF and KC were in that same division, and later Carolina, it might have been more accurate to call it the south diviision.

The old NFC Central division was truly a north division with Chicago, Detroit, Minnesota and Green Bay. Good thing they moved Tampa Bay out before they actually called it that.

 

[signbabybrady]

I was thinking that. The NFC lack teams in the far west (only SF and Seattle, whereas the AFC has SD, Oakland, Arizona). I say swap Jax=>LA for the Rams. The irony would be tha tthe Rams were formerly an LA team.

I am not a big fan of the way they moved Seattle. As someone pointed out if you move a team out of their division but still in the same conference you can still play quite often (example Pats v. Colts) but you really do lose out on the rivalries by switching conferences.

 

[coltsfan09]

California haas like 3 teams already....I hope they move out of state so we dont have to face them anymore! They try soooo hard to find ways to win the division...I dont really care anyway. being second in the division means facing the Pats early in the playoffs instead of in the AFC Championship

 

[PatsSox363804]

The easiest way to do it without messing with divisional rivalries is have the Rams and Jags switch conferences and put the Jags in the NFC West and the Rams in the AFC South. St Louis is closer to all of the teams in the division than Jacksonville is, and LA is closer to the NFC West teams than St Louis, it doesnt mess with a traditional rivalry, it makes perfect sense.

 

[jmt57]

IF the Jaguars were to move to LA, then I could see a change of divisions - but not to the AFC West. Those four teams have rivalries going back to 1960, I can't see any of those four teams agreeing to such a change, especially considering that none of them would be changing locations.

My first thought would be to swap with the Rams since they are the only other team in a West division that is in the central time zone. The only potential hurdle I can think of is if the networks don't like having those two midwestern teams from Missouri (Chiefs and Rams) in the same conference, but it makes the most sense. You know Dallas isn't going to move from the NFC East, you don't want to break up the NFC North for the same reason you don't want to break up the AFC West, and swapping with New Orleans doesn't make sense since all the other NFC South teams are on the east coast.

However, lots of teams have been rumored to move to LA, including San Diego, Minnesota and St. Louis. At this point I'll believe it when I see it.