OT: Imus vs. TAFKAPacman

[blackglass3]

Honestly, it feels strange that there is an NFL controversy (sort of, anyway) going on and the Patriots are in no way a part of it. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/06/23/imus.controversy.ap/index.html?cnn=yes

Sorry if there is already a thread, mods. I am just trying to point out that for the first time in a year, the Pats have been knocked off the front page (LdT's "classless comment", loss to the Colts, Moss deal, Spygate, RunItUpGate, perfect regualr season, offensive records, Spygate II, 18-1, Spygate II aftermath, IRGate).

 

[PatsFan24]

it will be interesting to see how this plays out. it would not be possible to get as much attention as last time, but it will get its share of press this week. i don't think he will be fired because WABC and RFD TV both seem to be commited to airing the show, it is bringing in a lot of money, and I think it will be handled a lot better this time. There will be those who will say "told ya so" however, and they might make some noise. Someone said it earlier today and I think it is a great point....the sad truth is that people like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are going to be more outraged by these comments, than by the actions of pacman jones.

 

[upstater1]

it will be interesting to see how this plays out. it would not be possible to get as much attention as last time, but it will get its share of press this week. i don't think he will be fired because WABC and RFD TV both seem to be commited to airing the show, it is bringing in a lot of money, and I think it will be handled a lot better this time. There will be those who will say "told ya so" however, and they might make some noise. Someone said it earlier today and I think it is a great point....the sad truth is that people like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are going to be more outraged by these comments, than by the actions of pacman jones.

Count me among those more outraged by racist comments in the media than by some dunderhead acting like an idiot in Las Vegas.

"Told ya so."

Imus has a racist track record as long as the tattoos down Amy Winehouse's arms.

 

[castlelong1]

What a joke.

Of course we're going to be more outraged by racist comments in the media than we are by some dunderhead acting like an idiot in Las Vegas.

As we should be.

"Told ya so."

Imus has a racist track record as long as the tattoos down Amy Winehouse's arms.

Please.

Please. The radio has two dials. One to change the station and one to turnoff the radio. Unless you are tied up like the guy in Clock Work Orange I have no pity.

You find Imus insensitive/ Here's an idea - Don't listen to him. His ratings dry up and he gets fired.

I wish any black people (or African-American if you'll call me a European-American) complaining could go to the 1920's and experience real racism. Break your leg and crawl two miles to a hospital, and they won't treat you because they only treat whites, but if you crawl another 2 miles...

Ooooh, mean white man said pacman is black!!! (Excuse me, African-American.)

 

[Patjew]

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[upstater1]

Please. The radio has two dials. One to change the station and one to turnoff the radio. Unless you are tied up like the guy in Clock Work Orange I have no pity.

You find Imus insensitive/ Here's an idea - Don't listen to him. His ratings dry up and he gets fired.

I wish any black people (or African-American if you'll call me a European-American) complaining could go to the 1920's and experience real racism. Break your leg and crawl two miles to a hospital, and they won't treat you because they only treat whites, but if you crawl another 2 miles...

Ooooh, mean white man said pacman is black!!! (Excuse me, African-American.)

I don't listen to him, by the way.

I'm all for people putting his feet to the fire though. He had great ratings in NYC, and he still got fired.

What gets me is when people get angry when other Americans use their free speech rights to call Imus what he is: a racist.

So, the only form of racism blacks should be concerned about is racism ala 1920s? uh-huh.

And what in the world does this mean: "or African-American if you'll call me a European-American"

 

[Pats726]

Please. The radio has two dials. One to change the station and one to turnoff the radio. Unless you are tied up like the guy in Clock Work Orange I have no pity.

You find Imus insensitive/ Here's an idea - Don't listen to him. His ratings dry up and he gets fired.

I wish any black people (or African-American if you'll call me a European-American) complaining could go to the 1920's and experience real racism. Break your leg and crawl two miles to a hospital, and they won't treat you because they only treat whites, but if you crawl another 2 miles...

Ooooh, mean white man said pacman is black!!! (Excuse me, African-American.)

There's a lot of garbage out there...and Imus has gottem pushed out of the picture because of his total insensitivity and now..maybe gone...Sadly he's a dinosaur..belonging back in the dark ages of many sterotypes and such...But he is mild compared to many even more outrageous buffoons...like Michael "stick the granade up the babie's behind' Regan...Maybe if people who disliked this manure saw who the sponsers were boycotted them..maybe the garbage would go where it belongs.
I'm all for free speech...but compare what Lenny Bruce got arrested for and look at what is normal for one of the "shock jocks". Times have changed. With freedom of speech comes responsibility...but few who spout understand that.

 

[blackglass3]

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Yeah, they might as well. I was just trying to comment on it from a "The Pats aren't the ones getting the headlines" type of standpoint.

 

[Patjew]

Yeah, they might as well. I was just trying to comment on it from a "The Pats aren't the ones getting the headlines" type of standpoint.

I'm indifferent, just making a prediction.

 

[castlelong1]

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[castlelong1]

I don't listen to him, by the way.

I'm all for people putting his feet to the fire though. He had great ratings in NYC, and he still got fired.

What gets me is when people get angry when other Americans use their free speech rights to call Imus what he is: a racist.

So, the only form of racism blacks should be concerned about is racism ala 1920s? uh-huh.

And what in the world does this mean: "or African-American if you'll call me a European-American"

Africa is a continent. Are you tutsi, hutu (sp?) There are likely some differences as vast as lumping Irishmen, Swedes, Greeks, and Spanards together. Or am I to believe a Zulu and Morocan are exactly the same?

So tell me are you the great decider of what people can listen too or do you think someone else should decide for our own good?

 

[Kontradiction]

Don Imus just needs to sit down somewhere.

 

[upstater1]

Africa is a continent. Are you tutsi, hutu (sp?) There are likely some differences as vast as lumping Irishmen, Swedes, Greeks, and Spanards together. Or am I to believe a Zulu and Morocan are exactly the same?

So tell me are you the great decider of what people can listen too or do you think someone else should decide for our own good?

Well, maybe you can go back to the slave ship manifests and figure it out so the African-Americans don't make that mistake of lumping all Africans together.

I'm one person. I believe in free speech. If other people would rather not deal with Imus's sponsors, it has an impact. Simple as that. For precisely this reason we don't have Nazi radio or Jihad radio, etc. It's because those stations have a hard time finding sponsors.

This is old ground. We've been here already. NBC backed Imus last time until all the sponsors started bailing. You have something against free speech?

 

[Deus Irae]

There's a lot of garbage out there...and Imus has gottem pushed out of the picture because of his total insensitivity and now..maybe gone...Sadly he's a dinosaur..belonging back in the dark ages of many sterotypes and such...But he is mild compared to many even more outrageous buffoons...like Michael "stick the granade up the babie's behind' Regan...Maybe if people who disliked this manure saw who the sponsers were boycotted them..maybe the garbage would go where it belongs.
I'm all for free speech...but compare what Lenny Bruce got arrested for and look at what is normal for one of the "shock jocks". Times have changed. With freedom of speech comes responsibility...but few who spout understand that.

I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.

- Voltaire

Freedom of speech isn't about the right to say something that's acceptable to others. It's about the right to say something that's NOT acceptable to others.

When you use your freedom of speech to attempt to suppress the freedom of speech of others, you are simply laying the groundwork for any and all speech, including your own, to be limited by the same means.

 

[SaCaCh]

People really need to start to get a grasp on what a racist really is and not fall for whatever they hear from the latest pundit or news story. Do us all a favor and stop reading or watching news if you can't decipher for youself what is real or what is hyped due to the need for more gotcha headlines. This, like before, is nothing...

 

[Kontradiction]

People really need to start to get a grasp on what a racist really is and not fall for whatever they hear from the latest pundit or news story. Do us all a favor and stop reading or watching news if you can't decipher for youself what is real or what is hyped due to the need for more gotcha headlines. This, like before, is nothing...

Except for a lame attempt by an old man to save his ratings from tanking. I agree that he has a right to say it, but why must it be plastered all over the news everytime he does? Does anybody (besides Indiana residents) listen to his show anymore?

 

[Captn]

Please. The radio has two dials. One to change the station and one to turnoff the radio. Unless you are tied up like the guy in Clock Work Orange I have no pity.

You find Imus insensitive/ Here's an idea - Don't listen to him. His ratings dry up and he gets fired.

I wish any black people (or African-American if you'll call me a European-American) complaining could go to the 1920's and experience real racism. Break your leg and crawl two miles to a hospital, and they won't treat you because they only treat whites, but if you crawl another 2 miles...

Ooooh, mean white man said pacman is black!!! (Excuse me, African-American.)

AMEN! You took the exact words right out of my mouth. :rocker:

 

[Captn]

When you use your freedom of speech to attempt to suppress the freedom of speech of others, you are simply laying the groundwork for any and all speech, including your own, to be limited by the same means.

Bingo! Finally some are seeing the light.

 

[upstater1]

- Voltaire

Freedom of speech isn't about the right to say something that's acceptable to others. It's about the right to say something that's NOT acceptable to others.

When you use your freedom of speech to attempt to suppress the freedom of speech of others, you are simply laying the groundwork for any and all speech, including your own, to be limited by the same means.

Let's be specific. We're talking radio here. Not about the constitution. No one takes away anyone's rights to say anything racist. You can say racist things to your hearts desire.

This isn't a free speech issue. It's about radio. HUGE HUGE DIFFERENCE.

If someone says something you don't like, you have every right to react to it. That's free speech too.

 

[Deus Irae]

Let's be specific. We're talking radio here. Not about the constitution. No one takes away anyone's rights to say anything racist. You can say racist things to your hearts desire.

This isn't a free speech issue. It's about radio. HUGE HUGE DIFFERENCE.

If someone says something you don't like, you have every right to react to it. That's free speech too.

No, there's no difference. Those who would act in the manner you hope for are just book burners taking another avenue. You pointed to Lenny Bruce but, sadly, you didn't learn the lesson that Lenny Bruce (and George Carlin later) should have taught you.