Seau and Law

[mgteich]

It would seem that Seau and Law would be significant upgrades over Alexander and Webster, who I would have the replacing on the "current" roster.

Another position that we might be looking to upgrade is the #5 RB/FB, where Eckel is the incumbant. We at least need some competition for Eckel.

It seems that Slater, Aiken and Washington could be fighting for one ST spot, although we could keep more than one of the three.

 

[BionicPatriot]

Forget Law. Why wouldn't he have signed yet? He wants the money they're not going to give him. I'd love to have him but it's just not happening.

EDIT--On second thought, seeing how no one else is paying him maybe the Pats will be able to work something out, they should have like 5 mil in cap space left then.

 

[swineslayer]

Law is too slow and not quick enough to play for us. It's been long overdue that we get younger and faster, and Law makes us older and slower.

 

[Tedy54]

Forget Law. Why wouldn't he have signed yet? He wants the money they're not going to give him. I'd love to have him but it's just not happening.

EDIT--On second thought, seeing how no one else is paying him maybe the Pats will be able to work something out, they should have like 5 mil in cap space left then.

I think that they will sign Law, and fairly soon. Seau is another story. The one thing that may bring him back is his deep rooted desire for a Super Bowl ring.

However, in his case, he may believe that his best bet for that would be with the Chargers, and not the Pats, and his home and family are in San Diego.

 

[Tedy54]

Law is too slow and not quick enough to play for us. It's been long overdue that we get younger and faster, and Law makes us older and slower.

His experience at the corner position is very valuable and the Pats are very short at the corner. (no pun intended) I think he can help the team, even if it's only for one season, maybe two.

 

[jbb9s]

If I remember correctly, the last time this team played like champions was when the 9 million dollar corner was on crutches and a scab UDFA covered the game's best receiver in a superbowl victory. And Law isn't any faster than he was back then before he got injured..

If Law takes the vet minimum, I would welcome him. Anything more would be wisely spent of on a RG in case Neal never makes it back to form.

(side note: Did Law get hurt in Pittsburgh? Did Dillon go down bad in Pittsburgh a year later? Brady missed the 2nd half of the 02 AFCCG at Heinz too. That field is haunted. Plus the 21 game streak ended there).

 

[PatsFan24]

i hope they both come back

 

[Tedy54]

i hope they both come back

I fully agree.

 

[Wotan_the_Wanderer]

If I remember correctly, the last time this team played like champions was when the 9 million dollar corner was on crutches and a scab UDFA covered the game's best receiver in a superbowl victory. And Law isn't any faster than he was back then before he got injured..

This is hardly intended as a slight against Randall Gay, but the key word here should be he "tried" to cover the game's best receiver in a SB victory. If you recall, Owens had a hell of a game tossing Gay around like a sack of rice while sporting a bad leg to boot. But again, this isn't meant to disparage Gay because other than this mismatch, he had one hell of a rookie season. Ty though made some plays for the Pats that year prior to his injury, and that really shouldn't be disregarded.

(side note: Did Law get hurt in Pittsburgh? Did Dillon go down bad in Pittsburgh a year later? Brady missed the 2nd half of the 02 AFCCG at Heinz too. That field is haunted. Plus the 21 game streak ended there).

I actually don't recall Dillon getting injured at Heinz. If I recall, I think he was already nicked up and hardly played, if at all, in that infamous Halloween game. Actually, the entire team was decimated by injuries, the RB corp more so than any other, which is why we even saw a rookie Patrick Cobbs carry the rock in the second half. Cory at Heinz in the playoffs caused more pain to the Steelers than was inflicted on him though the stats don't reflect this. He ran like a pissed off mad-man.

Lastly, don't forget Rodney blowing out his knee the following season at Heinz.

 

[Wotan_the_Wanderer]

Forgot to add, I too want both Seau and Law back.

 

[swineslayer]

(side note: Did Law get hurt in Pittsburgh? Did Dillon go down bad in Pittsburgh a year later? Brady missed the 2nd half of the 02 AFCCG at Heinz too. That field is haunted. Plus the 21 game streak ended there).

Ya, all the injuries and the field is probably the worst kept in the league!! Why is it Pittsburgh had a few games last year and the year before with mud, and slop and people could barely move on the crappy field and remember that punt that landed and just stuck in the mud??!!
Why is it that Kraft had to change Gillete to field turf in a record 6 days when we had a couple games with "messy" conditions and Dan Rooney doesn't have to when they've had TONS of field problems!!

It's a conspiracy dude!!:bricks:

 

[Pats726]

I would like BOTH as well..IF BB wishes to add them to the mix. NO need to add if he's happy with what the team has..but I think both would aff a lot of vet experience..Not rushing this..most likely if it does happen..in 4 weeks or so...early July.
Dillon was out that game, as was Ashworth and Poole. And what made it worse was Law, Gay and Light that also went down.

 

[Pats726]

Ya, all the injuries and the field is probably the worst kept in the league!! Why is it Pittsburgh had a few games last year and the year before with mud, and slop and people could barely move on the crappy field and remember that punt that landed and just stuck in the mud??!!
Why is it that Kraft had to change Gillete to field turf in a record 6 days when we had a couple games with "messy" conditions and Dan Rooney doesn't have to when they've had TONS of field problems!!

It's a conspiracy dude!!:bricks:

I find it interesting as well ESPECIALLY with the number of injuries that game that more was not said about that.

 

[TeamPats]

Another position that we might be looking to upgrade is the #5 RB/FB, where Eckel is the incumbant. We at least need some competition for Eckel.

No one has addressed this yet so I thought I would...when Morris was healthy how many RB's did we have on the 53? I think Eckel was onoly brought up from the practice squad once Morris went down...granted obviously pretty early in the season. My point is, if Maroney, Morris, Faulk, and Evans are all healthy, would a 5th RB/FB be on the roster?

 

[lapatsfan]

IMO, we are set at CB with Webster, Bryant, Wheatly, Hobbs, Richardson and Wilhite. I am guessing that the Pats already talked to Law, but decided to draft and sign other quality CBs instead. Also, they already gave #24 to Wilhite, but #55 is still available for Seau.

 

[mgteich]

We have room for a 6th WR/KR or a 5th RB/FB or a 4th QB or a 4th TE.

As we have seen several times in the last few years, running back do indeed get injured. My preference is to NOT need to count on a Practice Squad player or a street free agent to fill foster spots in midseason.

My choice has aways been to have 5 RB/FB's, including a short yardage specialist, who can have a larger role if there is an injury. Bettis filled this role at the end of his career.

No one has addressed this yet so I thought I would...when Morris was healthy how many RB's did we have on the 53? I think Eckel was onoly brought up from the practice squad once Morris went down...granted obviously pretty early in the season. My point is, if Maroney, Morris, Faulk, and Evans are all healthy, would a 5th RB/FB be on the roster?

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Why is it that Kraft had to change Gillete to field turf in a record 6 days when we had a couple games with "messy" conditions and Dan Rooney doesn't have to when they've had TONS of field problems!!

Ummm . . . I don't think it was so much that Kraft was forced to do so by the NFL--even if he was--as the fact that he could easily foresee EPIC FAIL (I think you can guess the sort of thing I'm referring to here) if he didn't. And don't forget that Brady had been lobbying for FieldTurf for some time.

No one has addressed this yet so I thought I would...when Morris was healthy how many RB's did we have on the 53? I think Eckel was onoly brought up from the practice squad once Morris went down...granted obviously pretty early in the season. My point is, if Maroney, Morris, Faulk, and Evans are all healthy, would a 5th RB/FB be on the roster?

No, Eckel was activated because Maroney was held out (remember Eckel scored the final touchdown of the Dallas game, after Morris went down).

 

[DaBruinz]

Forget Law. Why wouldn't he have signed yet? He wants the money they're not going to give him. I'd love to have him but it's just not happening.

EDIT--On second thought, seeing how no one else is paying him maybe the Pats will be able to work something out, they should have like 5 mil in cap space left then.

Or it could just be that the Pats are handling Law the same way as Seau and not planning on signing him until just prior to training camp.

 

[DaBruinz]

If I remember correctly, the last time this team played like champions was when the 9 million dollar corner was on crutches and a scab UDFA covered the game's best receiver in a superbowl victory. And Law isn't any faster than he was back then before he got injured..

If Law takes the vet minimum, I would welcome him. Anything more would be wisely spent of on a RG in case Neal never makes it back to form.

(side note: Did Law get hurt in Pittsburgh? Did Dillon go down bad in Pittsburgh a year later? Brady missed the 2nd half of the 02 AFCCG at Heinz too. That field is haunted. Plus the 21 game streak ended there).

I agree with what you said here, except it was the 01 AFCCG (which took place in 02). Also, Lee Flowers PURPOSELY went for Brady's knee on the play.

I believe that Matt Light went down in the same game as Ty Law. When Light broke his leg...

 

[DaBruinz]

This is hardly intended as a slight against Randall Gay, but the key word here should be he "tried" to cover the game's best receiver in a SB victory. If you recall, Owens had a hell of a game tossing Gay around like a sack of rice while sporting a bad leg to boot. But again, this isn't meant to disparage Gay because other than this mismatch, he had one hell of a rookie season. Ty though made some plays for the Pats that year prior to his injury, and that really shouldn't be disregarded.

Actually, Gay did a helluva job against Owens. Owens longest reception was because Freddie Mitchell set a pick that opened Owens up.

I actually don't recall Dillon getting injured at Heinz. If I recall, I think he was already nicked up and hardly played, if at all, in that infamous Halloween game. Actually, the entire team was decimated by injuries, the RB corp more so than any other, which is why we even saw a rookie Patrick Cobbs carry the rock in the second half. Cory at Heinz in the playoffs caused more pain to the Steelers than was inflicted on him though the stats don't reflect this. He ran like a pissed off mad-man.

Lastly, don't forget Rodney blowing out his knee the following season at Heinz.

Patrick Cobbs never carried the ball for the Patriots. He never made their roster. You are thinking of Cedric Cobbs.

You are also correct about Dillon. He didn't play in the Halloween game. Light broke his leg. Ashworth also went down in that game. I remember we ended up with Gorin at one OT position and Hochstein at the other to end that game. Daniel Graham also didn't play in that game.