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I also predict NE will be the only team in the AFC East to decline.

Which of these predictions do you find outlandish...

Patriots will not go 16-0.
Bills will win 7 or more games
Jets will win 4 or more games
Dolphins will win at least one game
 
I also predict NE will be the only team in the AFC East to decline.

Which of these predictions do you find outlandish...

Patriots will not go 16-0.
Bills will win 7 or more games
Jets will win 4 or more games
Dolphins will win at least one game

Put another way: all the JEST and 'lphins have to do to improve is to suck less, :) while the Patriots merely have to go 17-(-1) in the regular season. :D
 
Wow, a blogger thinks the Pats are in decline, stop the presses !

Who cares, I can remember reading and listening to the media talk about the Pats defense being an issue before the start of the season last year, in the end it was ranked 4th in the league. Assante might be missed, but personally, I doubt it. Capers is the consistent forgotten part of the equation, I suspect the defense the Patriots field this year will be the biggest surprise of the NFL. From everything I've learned, we drafted well and if these rookies are as smart as everyone is saying, people will be saying "Assante who ?"

Stop worrying about what anyone says expect Belichick until the playing starts, that's the only time we'll know for sure and even then, it'll take a few games to get all the wrinkles ironed out.

One last thing, the blogger failed to realize that Gaffney replaced Stallworth in the rotation ! He seems to think Gaffney's not much, but all I remember the super clutch finger tip catch in the end zone at the end of the Ravens game ! Nobody wants to see the Patriots dominate again, so it's really nothing more then wishful thinking. Relax, your a Patriots fan, you have nothing to worry about !
 
Didn't the world say the Pats were too old and their window had shut after the 2002 season? Hasn't virtually every year for the last half decade people predicted that the margin between the Pats and the other teams in the AFC East have diminished and that one or more of the other teams was ready to overtake the Pats?

Until we actually see these things happen, I won't hold my breath.

BTW, to talk about a 31 year old Brady as if he is Brett Favre's age, is crazy. Brady is still in his prime and should be for the next 3-5 years.

Also, if you want to talk about Moss' age (31), why not Terrell Owens (34) or Marvin Harrison (35)? Moss should still have another 2-3 years of high production as long as injuries don't get in the way.

As for the o-line "aging rapidly", what a mistatement. Light will be 30 when the season starts and Neal is 31, but everyone else is under 30. Besides, the Patriots have been successful at rotating in just average linemen and getting the most out of them for years (Andruzzi, Compton, Ashworth, Hochstein, etc.).
 
Haven't we "been on the decline" for the last three years now?
 
People have been hearing the "old, slowing down, in decline" opinion so often that they just accept it as fact. It's yet another case of somebody wanting something to be true, so they present opinions as truths without checking out the facts. It's nothing new and we should all be used to it by now, but I'll admit that it does still bother me when such mis-information is spread around and accepted as gospel.
 
My message to this idiotic Cowboys fan:

Bunch of inaccuracies, albeit based on misconceptions that a lot of non-Pats fans have:

"on defense...the Pats are essentially running a retirement home" -- Wrong. Richard Seymour (28)? Vince Wilfork (26)? Ty Warren (27)? Ellis Hobbs (25)? James Sanders (24)? That leaves Bruschi (34), Vrabel (32), Adalius Thomas (30), and Rodney Harrison (35). That's hardly a "retirement home," bud. That's just balance.

"who they dramatically overreached for in the first round of the 2007 draft, taking him 10th overall" -- That's why Mayock and Kiper both believed Mayo wasn't that much worse than Rivers...

"Tom Brady is in his 30s" - Yeah, OK. So Tom Brady is 30. Big deal. Do you seriously believe it matters? Did it appear to matter last season? No. See Elway, John and Favre, Brett.

"Kevin Faulk is 34 and undoubtedly looking at retirement" -- uh, no? Faulk is 31 and still has another 2-3 years in him as one of the best 3rd down backs in the league.

"Sammy Morris is 32, which creates a problem" -- How? Does he walk with a cane or something? I suggest you check out his stats from September and October of last season before he went on IR with a dislocated clavicle.

"Their offensive line is aging rapidly, as well? -- This was one classic. Sure, they're aging. Just like how I am one age this year and was a different age last year. But you can't seriously tell me that the Patriots OL, one of the youngest and best in the league, is aging rapidly. Matt Light (2007 Pro Bowler) is 29. Logan Mankins (1st rounder, 2007 Pro Bowler) is 26. Dan Koppen (2007 Pro Bowler) is 28. Stephen Neal is 31. Nick Kaczur is 28. Ryan O'Callaghan (3rd T) is 24. Give me a break, bud.

The Pats are "aging." Yes, and so is every other team. You cannot tell me that the Patriots don't have good young talent, because they do. So as much as you are sick of the Patriots and Colts, they're not going anywhere (the Colts, if you want to play your little age game, were the youngest team in the NFL last year). It's wishful thinking.

You're simply wrong. I'm sorry. It's a classic case of wishful thinking.
 
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Talk about overexaggerating. So much bull sh!t in that blog it became rather funny :D

Getting a little too excited me thinks..
 
Dear Cowboys fan,

Marc Colombo
Greg Ellis
Terry Glenn
Andre Gurode
Kyle Kozier
Terrence Newman
Terrell Owens
Tony Romo ( at 28, apparently he only has 2/3 more years left...better start hoping your coach can win a playoff game )

Love, PatsFanJess
 
"on defense...the Pats are essentially running a retirement home" -- Wrong. Richard Seymour (28)? Vince Wilfork (26)? Ty Warren (27)? Ellis Hobbs (25)? James Sanders (24)? That leaves Bruschi (34), Vrabel (32), Adalius Thomas (30), and Rodney Harrison (35). That's hardly a "retirement home," bud. That's just balance.

This is the part that baffles me as well.
  • AD is one year removed from being the top overall FA on the market. Did people expect him to play on a 1-year contract and then be replaced?
  • Vrabel is on the backside of his career but is still highly productive (All-Pro level) and has a top 100 pick being groomed behind him.
  • Bruschi isn't a full-time player, splitting minutes with a top 10 pick.
  • Harrison isn't a full-time player, splitting minutes with a 1st round pick.

Then he goes on to say:
Teams in the AFC like the Jaguars, Titans, Browns, and Bills are all on the rise and looking to become the dominant teams of the future.
TEN Kearse 32
TEN Bullock 31
TEN Harper 34
JAX Peterson 32
JAX Spicer 33
JAX Meier 31
CLE McGinest 36
CLE Smith 31
CLE Baxter 30
BUF Schobel 31
BUF Stroud 30
BUF Denney 31

I imagine you would find a similar number of over-30 players on every defense in the league. As you say, that is just good balance between experience and youth.
 
Jkeniley
May 30, 2008
10:33 AM
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This is such garbage from a totally incompetent football analyst. How old is Tom Brady? 30. How old is T.O.? 34. Hmmm... Patriots offensive line is actually quite young.... Mankins- 26, Light 29, Neal- 31, Kaczur- 28, Koppen- 28. So please, If you want to talk smack and rant about how the Pats have fallen off, at least get your numbers right.

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It's his 'Fantasy Report'. The author is Number 22. How pathetic is that.?
 
Didin't you guys know, if the Pats go 15-1, their in a decline :rolleyes:.

In addition to Samuel, the Pats lost #3 CB Randall G ay. These two losses have dramatically weakend the New England secondary.
Losing Samuel may hurt, but it wasn't as bad when Ty Law went down with a season ending injury. I like Samuel but he isn't Ty Law. Gay on the other hand, I'm glad he is gone. Ignorant people will think Gay was a signifigant loss just because he was on a 16-0 team. Gay was torched on a regular basis by the likes of Greg Lewis for 2 td's and Steve Smith catching first down after first down in the superbowl. I'm positive that Wheatley will be an upgrade at nickel if he isn't in the starting lineup. I'm also excited about Fernando Bryant getting a chance to start as well. This defense needs new blood and better athletes.

At linebacker, the Pats are essentially running a retirement home, apart from rookie Jerod Mayo (who they dramatically overreached for in the first round of the 2007 draft, taking him 10th overall).
Actually, Mayo's stock skyrocketed the night before the draft because teams were revealing who they wanted. The Lions really wanted Mayo at 19 and the draft was so weak that the Pats couldn't trade out again. Wasn't Mankins a reach too? :rolleyes:

On the offensive side, the Pats aren't quite as old, but they aren't the youngest group, either. Tom Brady and Randy Moss (a pair of names we heard quite a lot in '07), are both in their 30s, and Moss especially will soon begin feeling the effects. RB Kevin Faulk is 34 and no doubt looking at retirement and Sammy Morris is 32, which creates a problem for the Pats because, frankly, Laurence Maroney has yet to impress me. The Pats also lost WR Donte' Stallworth, who, although he fizzled out late-season, was an integral part of the Pats pass offense. Their offensive line is aging rapidly, as well.
That is why they drafted Kevin O'Connell in the third round. Their recievers aren't that old. Welker and Gaffney are 3 years from 30 and Chad Jackson is 23. Maroney has yet to impress you? Watch the playoffs again. Look at his yards per carry during the season. He didn't get many touches but he made the most of them. Regarding Stallworth, I'm a big fan of his and he seems like a guy you want in your locker room. However, Chad Jackson should be able to fill his roll. Lastly, their O-line isn't that old.


In the end, I can't believe this person would actually waste their time writing this article. There are flaws in every arguement they make. I might be wrong, but the Pats will be a better team next season. They have more youth and speed with their LB's and secondary. Mayo is that sideline to sideline LB that the Pats desperately needed and may make a Patrick Willis type impact. Hobson provides more speed and Bruschi should benefit from that as well. Merriweather is in his second season and I believe he will contribute a lot more to the defense. I like the additions of Bryant, Webster (if he can stay healthy), Tank Williams (if he can stay healthy) and the drafting of Wheatley and Whilite. That sounds a hell of a lot better than relying on Randall Gay in the slot (who was average at best) and Asante Samuel who had his lapses like everyone else. On offense, I believe the Pats won't change a thing and won't miss a beat that Stallworth is gone. Watson will come back healthy, Gaffney knows the offense very well, Welker is a beast in the slot, David Thomas will be an excellent backup TE and Chad Jackson will have a great season. Although some of the Pats backup RB's may be aging, Maroney is a stud in the making and the Pats may be able to sign Kevin Jones.

The Pats will finish 13-3 to 14-2, win the AFC East and win the AFC once again. Do you really think that the Bills, Titans and Browns are a threat to the Colts, Chargers and Patriots? Don't get me wrong, I like what the Browns are doing and their on their way up, but they don't stand a chance against the three best teams I listed above.
 
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This is absolutely hilarious. The guy responded to the message I sent him (see above):

Ok, since you seem to feel the need to point these out in a message to me rather than the given comments section, hows about I set straight some of your own misconceptions.

1 - Kevin Faulk is indeed 34. Or 33. Not 31.

2 - The very fact that Sammy Morris DID get hurt and landed on IR says a lot about his durability.

3 - The Pats' major players are either 30 or close to being 30. Do you really think Ellis Hobbs is an impact player on their defense? I don't. Bruschi, Seau, Thomas, and Harrison are. Seymour is beginning to pass his prime at DE now, as is Warren.

Just a couple things.

You're welcome to your own opinion, but these are mine. I don't appreciate being chewed out in a private message. If you have an issue with my opinion, you should post it in the comments like everyone else.

My response back:

I didn't get the memo that it was 2010. Kevin Faulk was born on June 5, 1976, so I have a VERY hard time believing that he is somehow 34.

"Ty Warren is passing his prime."

Yeah. So is DeMarcus Ware.

Get a clue.
 
Consider the source. I checked the author's previous posts. Apparently he had not written for about football for a while because he has been busy on another site reviewing video games. He also writes fantasy football advice - after finishing last season with an 8-9 record.

One good thing about the internet is that everybody has an opportunity to voice their opinion. One bad thing about the internet is that so many poorly formed opinions are accepted as fact.


Edit: It just occured to me that there is probably a link between the FoxSports author's fixation with the unresearched myth that the Pats are old and video games. He also writes elsewhere that he is a big gamer, writing reviews of video games. I recall a post a few months back where somebody said that the Pats needed to draft a QB because Tom Brady was over the hill and would be done in a couple of years, leading to the end of the Patriots' dynasty. Eventually it came out that the person writing that opinion was basing that opinion on the Madden video game, where player's talents drop off dramatically after age 30.

For every Mike Reiss and Shalise Manza Young, the internet also provides us with folks unable to make the distinction between the NFL, fantasy football, and Madden '08.
 
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