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Awesome:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/080522&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab1pos1

Sports Guy said:
Now that it's finally finished, I think we learned three lessons from Spygate beyond the obvious one that "it's a bad idea to cheat because you might end up losing a No. 1 pick and getting fined $500,000":

1. In retrospect, maybe it's a bad idea to put too much stock into the deranged claims of a former third-level video assistant who's hoping to get paid for interviews even though he's not comfortable showing what he "has."

2. If you had a sister who wanted to get engaged to someone who got fired from his low-ranking NFL job and moved to Hawaii to become an assistant golf pro, you would take her out to dinner, urge her not to take the plunge and make it clear you think she's ruining her life for a complete loser. But if that same complete loser claims to have evidence that can bring down an NFL team, we should all believe him for a few months, no questions asked.

3. If you have a national column in which you're excoriating a sports team for cheating even though it already paid a severe penalty for what it did, and you're hinting more revelations are coming down the road, and then it's proven you were barking up the wrong tree ... you need to admit defeat and quit blowing the situation out of proportion. No, really.
 
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Do I detect a little tension in the ESPN Page 2 bullpen?
 
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Sorry...but unless my PC is hijacked I refuse to go to that porn site (ESPN).
 
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i am going to post this for the last time.......well no probably not.........espn SUCKS
 
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i am going to post this for the last time.......well no probably not.........espn SUCKS

Yeah but I'm pretty sure he's indirectly shitting on ESPN right here:

3. If you have a national column in which you're excoriating a sports team for cheating even though it already paid a severe penalty for what it did, and you're hinting more revelations are coming down the road, and then it's proven you were barking up the wrong tree ... you need to admit defeat and quit blowing the situation out of proportion. No, really.
 
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Yeah but I'm pretty sure he's indirectly shitting on ESPN right here:

That's exactly how I read it too.....
 
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For those understandably fed up with ESPN, you missed this little tidbit in Simmons ramblings:

" Is anyone else excited the Pats drafted a wide receiver named "Slater" from UCLA?" Yeah Baby, I am! :rocker:
 
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Awesome:
3. If you have a national NETWORK in which you're excoriating a sports team for cheating even though it already paid a severe penalty for what it did, and you're hinting more revelations are coming down the road, and then it's proven you were barking up the wrong tree ... you need to admit defeat and quit blowing the situation out of proportion. No, really.

There I fixed it for him..................
 
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Yeah but I'm pretty sure he's indirectly shitting on ESPN right here:

I'm pretty sure he directly sheitting on Gregg Easterbrook. Look at Easterbrook's February 2nd column and then the one he put out this week.

Flash back to September. After the league made its strange decision to destroy the materials, then refused to say what they contained, several media figures, including me, did this Journalism 101 exercise: Current scandal involves current taping by the Patriots. Are there any former Patriots video officials from New England's Super Bowl runs? That led to a former New England scout and video department official named Matt Walsh, who now lives in Hawaii. Simultaneously, the NFL grapevine was alive with rumors -- caution, rumors -- that the Patriots were guilty not just of taping sidelines during games but rather of much more serious transgressions. The primary rumor, which was reported Saturday by the Boston Herald, was that the Patriots secretly taped the St. Louis Rams' private walk-through before Super Bowl XXXVI, that the Pats knew some of the Rams' plays and formations in advance.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=easterbrook/080202&sportCat=nfl

You can just read the entire the following entire article to see why Simmons responded to give it up (but here is a snippet):

But things are going to drag on until commissioner Roger Goodell or the owners take the steps necessary to bring Spygate to a close. Changing their story week by week doesn't close Spygate. Rationalizations and doublespeak don't close Spygate. Admitting only what you have been compelled to admit doesn't close Spygate. The reason Spygate keeps dragging on is because the guilty party -- New England coach Bill Belichick -- has not been punished in any meaningful way.

Belichick cheated and lied, and so far has gotten away nearly scot-free. Not only does Belichick continue to run a team that has systematically cheated for (we now know) eight years -- a team that engaged in "a calculated and deliberate attempt to avoid long-standing rules designed to encourage fair play and promote honest competition," to quote Goodell -- he shows not one whit of remorse, except over being caught. Belichick just spoke about Spygate on CBS News. He didn't sound like a blameless hero who wanted his reputation back, he sounded like he was angry that people were questioning him.

A man of dignity, who is caught cheating, would resign. Had Belichick shown dignity and resigned, this week's humiliating media circus in New York over former Patriots videographer Matt Walsh would never have occurred. Spygate would already be behind us. "Cheaters! Cheaters!" the crowd at Radio City Music Hall chanted when New England's name went on the clock at last month's draft. "Cheaters! Cheaters!" crowds will chant next fall when New England takes the field, if the cheater Belichick is still running the show. The way to stop that, and bring Spygate to a close, is to suspend the person responsible.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=easterbrook/080517&sportCat=nfl

It is obvious Simmons is talking about Easterbrook.
 
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Simmons has mentioned before that his editors haven't allowed any criticism of other ESPN staff in his column.

Either he was able to slip this one past his editors, or his editors share the same opinion about Easterbrook.
 
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Simmons has mentioned before that his editors haven't allowed any criticism of other ESPN staff in his column.

Either he was able to slip this one past his editors, or his editors share the same opinion about Easterbrook.

Well, Simmons is vague enough that you can't say he definitely wrote that about Easterbrook or any other ESPN writer. It isn't very hard to read between the lines though. It could be enough to allow the editors to ignore the comment.
 
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Sorry...but unless my PC is hijacked I refuse to go to that porn site (ESPN).

If ESPN had porn, it would actually be worth a damn. However, they are lower than a porn site now.
 
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Well, Simmons is vague enough that you can't say he definitely wrote that about Easterbrook or any other ESPN writer. It isn't very hard to read between the lines though. It could be enough to allow the editors to ignore the comment.

I agree, perhaps it was a compromise with his editor. If Simmons was calling out the Herald and Tomase, Simmons' editor would have no problem with mentioning them specifically. He's vague enough that some may take it that he's talking about the media in general, but in my opinion he's most likely talking about Easterbrook and espn. I doubt he could be more specific and also get it past the editor.
 
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Peter King MMQB 5-16 said:
3. I think, by the way, I don't fault Specter for yelling about wanting to keep football pure. There's never anything wrong with a good watchdog, particularly a 78-year-old one fighting cancer and undergoing chemotherapy. And though I think he's barking up the wrong tree about football possibly not being on the level, it's good that the NFL knows there's somebody in Washington looking at the league with a jaundiced eye. Keeps 'em honest.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/peter_king/05/16/mmqb/3.html

Simmons said:
If you have a national column in which you're excoriating a sports team for cheating even though it already paid a severe penalty for what it did, and you're hinting more revelations are coming down the road, and then it's proven you were barking up the wrong tree ... you need to admit defeat and quit blowing the situation out of proportion. No, really.

A lot of barking up trees here
 
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Simmons is WAY to good for the likes of ESPN..........

It is amazing that they are so into themselves at ESPN that they would censor what he wants to write. Paranoid folks there without a doubt.

Great job Bill Simmons.....cannot wait until you move on to a network that will allow you to use your talents.
 
I heard an rumor-- an unconfirmed rumor, mind-- that ESPN writers plagiarize their content from sites like PatsFans.com without attribution. They've been doing it for years.

I say, we should get some Senators and former journalists to comment exhaustively on the rumor.
 
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