The New York Times is manufacturing information again

[Rob0729]

From their latest article:

Early each game week, teams give players a DVD — it used to be a videotape — as a primary study aid. Generally, the DVDs have recent footage of the next opponent. A defensive player, for example, would receive a DVD of plays by the opponent’s offense. Teams can create subsets of plays for players — plays run from inside the 20-yard line, for example, or on third-and-long.

The perspective is different from what is seen by television viewers. It usually features wide views from the end zone and the sideline so that all the players on the field can be seen on the screen. In between plays, the scoreboard is shown so the viewer knows the down, distance, score and time remaining.

The Patriots added an element — sideline signals from the opposing coaching staff. This way, they could not only study what plays an opposing team might call in various situations, but also how an opposing coach would signal for such plays.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/14/sports/football/14nfl.html?ref=sports

When has anyone from Goodell to Walsh to Specter to Belichick to the guy who cuts the grass ever said that each player got video of opposing team's signals in their weekly DVD game study packages? They just make this stuff up.

 

[Rob0729]

BTW, this is why instead of boycotting the Herald, we should be boycotting the Globe. We boycott the Globe and we hurt the NYT. We boycott the Herald and we help the NYT.

 

[Sean Pa Patriot]

From their latest article:



http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/14/sports/football/14nfl.html?ref=sports

When has anyone from Goodell to Walsh to Specter to Belichick to the guy who cuts the grass ever said that each player got video of opposing team's signals in their weekly DVD game study packages? They just make this stuff up.

Im going to guess I did not open the article yet, was it by a guy named greg bishop???

 

[Rob0729]

Im going to guess I did not open the article yet, was it by a guy named greg bishop???

Sorry, John Branch and Judy Bastista

 

[Sean Pa Patriot]

Ok i was wrong, but they did find a Pats hater to comment on it... Mark Schlereth... I guess they really studied the cheerleaders of that Chargers game, because they lost that game in 2002, Moron Mark...

 

[jmt57]

Yeah, that's right, players in the huddle as well as those running in to the huddle always seem to be focused on one of the three people on the opposing sideline signalling in the defensive formation.

Has this guy ever even watched a football game?

 

[Rob0729]

By the way, the Times didn't attribute this to a source. In fact, it sounds like from the next paragraph that they did just make it up. If I have ever seen reckless disregard for the truth, I don't know what is.

 

[upstater1]

I don't even understand the point they're making.

You can tell what plays they'd run in a certain situation by just, um, watching the game. That's easy.

You don't need a camera to figure that out.

What a stupid point they make.

The camera helps you record signals. That much should be obvious.

 

[Jackson 2]

BTW, this is why instead of boycotting the Herald, we should be boycotting the Globe. We boycott the Globe and we hurt the NYT. We boycott the Herald and we help the NYT.

Wrong, again. We boycott the Herald, we help the Pats. I'll give you credit, you do keep trying...

 

[Rob0729]

Wrong, again. We boycott the Herald, we help the Pats. I'll give you credit, you do keep trying...

We don't help the Patriots from boycotting the Herald. Whatever happens to the Herald barring a successful lawsuit by the Patriots has no bearing on the Patriots. The Herald has already had their reputation irrepairably tarnished in this town and has been criticized around the country.

The NYT are trying to bring down the Patriots. Hurting them financially will stop them from doing it. So boycotting the Times and their subsidiaries is far more helpful to the Patriots.

 

[Sean Pa Patriot]

We don't help the Patriots from boycotting the Herald. Whatever happens to the Herald barring a successful lawsuit by the Patriots has no bearing on the Patriots. The Herald has already had their reputation irrepairably tarnished in this town and has been criticized around the country.

The NYT are trying to bring down the Patriots. Hurting them financially will stop them from doing it. So boycotting the Times and their subsidiaries is far more helpful to the Patriots.

The Times owns the Globe ,which I can boycott our boy Reiss..

 

[Rob0729]

The Times owns the Globe ,which I can boycott our boy Reiss..

As much as I love Reiss and his reporting, I love the Patriots more. Money talks and if it is hurting the Times financially to continue this witch hunt against the Patriots, they will stop. Otherwise, I don't see them moving on until their primary readership (Jets and Giants fans) lose their taste for Patriots slamming or something bigger comes along. That may be a long time in the dead period of the NFL.

 

[Patriotic Fervor]

The Times manufacturing news? Whoda thunk?

But really - who's surprised? They've been doing that for 60 years....

 

[PonyExpress]

Sorry I'm confused... don't offenses have radio com? So what the hell are these people talking about distributing offensive play signals to defensive players?

The NYTimes helped cover up Stalin's forced famine in the Ukraine of 1932-33and consistently downplayed the Nazi threat to the Jews prior and during the Holocaust, and has perpetrated numerous other hoaxes. It's reputation is based on myth, largely self-created. On many of the biggest issues of our "Times" it has been an embarrassment. It has won a lot of Pulitzers though, which is nice.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

BTW, this is why instead of boycotting the Herald, we should be boycotting the Globe. We boycott the Globe and we hurt the NYT. We boycott the Herald and we help the NYT.

We boycott the Herald and we hurt the Herald. We boycott the NYT's and we hurt the NYT's. Heck, if you just stopped clicking on their website they would probably get no attention here...

 

[jbb9s]

Sorry I'm confused... don't offenses have radio com? So what the hell are these people talking about distributing offensive play signals to defensive players?

2 minute no huddle offense is what they meant I think.

 

[jbb9s]

The NYT are trying to bring down the Patriots. Hurting them financially will stop them from doing it. So boycotting the Times and their subsidiaries is far more helpful to the Patriots.

The Times has a circulation of about 1.7 million per day worldwide. I am not sure the Herald is even a 1/100th of that. So really a bunch of Patriot fans can do very little to hurt the Times but could substantiate something against a much smaller newspaper like the Herald thru a grassroots effort. Of course, if you know anyone in Delhi, Tel Aviv, Singapore, London, Moscow or Jakarta who could help with the Times boycott we could still try. Plus by hurting the Times, you are indirectly aiding John McCain and another 4 years of Bush's failed policies.

 

[DaBruinz]

BTW, this is why instead of boycotting the Herald, we should be boycotting the Globe. We boycott the Globe and we hurt the NYT. We boycott the Herald and we help the NYT.

No. Boycott the NYTs. The Globe is a wholly owned subsidiary. Meaning that its profits are its profits.

It benefits the stockholders of the corporation that owns the Times and the Globe. But there is no direct benefit to the New York Times newspaper.

 

[Patriot_in_NY]

From their latest article:



http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/14/sports/football/14nfl.html?ref=sports

When has anyone from Goodell to Walsh to Specter to Belichick to the guy who cuts the grass ever said that each player got video of opposing team's signals in their weekly DVD game study packages? They just make this stuff up.

Yeah, they do

By the way, the Times didn't attribute this to a source. In fact, it sounds like from the next paragraph that they did just make it up. If I have ever seen reckless disregard for the truth, I don't know what is.

in the NYT, just turn the page and you'll see another one..... and then another one, and so on.

The Times manufacturing news? Whoda thunk?

But really - who's surprised? They've been doing that for 60 years....

Ding, ding, ding...... It's the dirtiest rag out there. I don't even let my dog pee on it anymore.

 

[PatriotsReign]

Since I think many media types visit our board frequently, I think I should warn them, they should be worried....very worried