Are we being set up again for more punishment due to offensive taping?

[fgssand]

Since the news first broke that there was nothing new last week....each day the media haters continue to try to find something.

The latest that continues to grow every day now is the OFFENSIVE signal taping.

There are many cries for additional punishment because of it now....

1) Daily News

NFL could fine Patriots again after 'spygate' tapes reveal they stole Miami Dolphins offensive signals

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/li...rts.html?in_article_id=565300&in_page_id=1781

2) NY Times:

But did that admission include the taping of both defensive and offensive signals?

In the statement the league released after it reached a legal agreement with Walsh, the N.F.L. said that Goodell had determined “the Patriots had violated league rules by videotaping opposing coaches’ defensive signals” throughout Belichick’s tenure as head coach.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/10/sports/football/10nfl.html

This all may come down to whether or not BB did indeed tell Goodell taping had occurred on both sides. If indeed he did, then once again, why the "F" doesn't Goodell simply have a quick statement confirming the Patriots had admitted to both.

Does anybody know if it was originally noted?

Mark my words - your papers are going to be filled with stories clamoring for more punishment and/or suspensions.

Man oh man - Tuesday cannot get here soon enough.

PS - if you really want to see how NY hatred is portrayed...read this beauty also from the NY Times with the usual chicken chit " unnamed NFL Executive":

In discussions of changes since 2000, one team, the New England Patriots, has surfaced more than any other, according to a longtime N.F.L. team executive with direct knowledge of the meetings.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/11/sports/football/11nfl.html?_r=1&ref=sports&oref=slogin

 

[BelichickFan]

We'd better not be as offensive and defensive signals are the same rule. Additionally they aren't inherently different. Videotaping signals is videotaping signals. What Belichick told Jolly Roger, who knows, but he would be a little girl (Roger not Bill) if he punished us more because of words not actions.

 

[spacecrime]

Here is what the Haters would like to see:

One first round draft pick for stealing from the Jets offfense on passing plays.

One first round draft pick for stealing from teh Jets offfense on running plays.

One first round draft pick for stealing from the Jets offfense on third and long plays.

One first round draft pick for stealing from the Jets offfense on third and short plays.

One first round draft pick for stealing from the Jets offfense on goal-to-go plays.

One first round draft pick for stealing from the Jets offfense on plays needing more than ten yards for a first down.

One first round draft pick for stealing from the Jets offfense on plays needing more than twnety yards for a first down.

Repeat all the above for plays run in the final two minutes of a half and the final two minutes of the game.

Repeat all the above, substituting defense for offense.

Repeat all the above for all the teams on Walsh's tapes.

Since the news first broke that there was nothing new last week....each day the media haters continue to try to find something.

The latest that continues to grow every day now is the OFFENSIVE signal taping.

There are many cries for additional punishment because of it now....

1) Daily News

"NFL could fine Patriots again after 'spygate' tapes reveal they stole Miami Dolphins offensive signals"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/li...rts.html?in_article_id=565300&in_page_id=1781

2) NY Times:


"But did that admission include the taping of both defensive and offensive signals?
In the statement the league released after it reached a legal agreement with Walsh, the N.F.L. said that Goodell had determined “the Patriots had violated league rules by videotaping opposing coaches’ defensive signals” throughout Belichick’s tenure as head coach."

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/10/sports/football/10nfl.html



This all may come down to whether or not BB did indeed tell Goodell taping had occurred on both sides. If indeed he did, then once again, why the "F" doesn't Goodell simply have a quick statement confirming the Patriots had admitted to both.

Does anybody know if it was originally noted?

Mark my words - your papers are going to be filled with stories clamoring for more punishment and/or suspensions.

Man oh man - Tuesday cannot get here soon enough.


PS - if you really want to see how NY hatred is portrayed...read this beauty also from the NY Times with the usual chicken chit " unnamed NFL Executive":

. "In discussions of changes since 2000, one team, the New England Patriots, has surfaced more than any other, according to a longtime N.F.L. team executive with direct knowledge of the meetings."

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/11/sports/football/11nfl.html?_r=1&ref=sports&oref=slogin

 

[Rob0729]

Greg Aiello said on Friday that the penalty that the Patriots were punished for covered both defensive and offensive signals. Unless there is something else on the tapes that no one knows about, the Patriots will not be penalized.

As for the media, this just shows the fact that the media do not want to be fair and balanced. All they want is blood. The media wanted a tape of the Rams' walkthrough. Since all they got were more examples of things the Pats have been punished for, they are trying to manufacture a scandal by splitting hairs between offensive and defensive signals.

Face it. Spygate has been a profit center for the media most importantly to the newspaper industry that has been hit on hard times. Saying the Spygate saga is over is not good for business. Splitting hairs to try to manufacturer new potential examples of "cheating" is good for business.

Unfortunately, the media has done such a good job painting a picture of the Patriots being evil that most people around the country can't see the god-awful yellow journalism the media has been spewing in this case. It is really getting really pathetic at this point.

 

[Sean Pa Patriot]

Please see my poll to see how I feel , again we should not, nor do I feel we be punished...

 

[RoughingthePasser]

Who cares?
Thi stuff should be ignored

 

[cmasspatsfan]

As for the media, this just shows the fact that the media do not want to be fair and balanced. All they want is blood. The media wanted a tape of the Rams' walkthrough. Since all they got were more examples of things the Pats have been punished for, they are trying to manufacture a scandal by splitting hairs between offensive and defensive signals.

That, or their all lazy bastards, then again it could be both.

 

[JoeSixPat]

This should be interesting if they try it

The NFL would be penalizing the Patriots for violating a 2006 rule in 2001.

Do I need to expand on that fallacy further? Perhaps I do, as a good number of writers, fans, US Senators and potentially NFL officials fail to see anything odd about that.

 

[PatriotsReign]

Since the news first broke that there was nothing new last week....each day the media haters continue to try to find something.

The latest that continues to grow every day now is the OFFENSIVE signal taping.

There are many cries for additional punishment because of it now....

1) Daily News

"NFL could fine Patriots again after 'spygate' tapes reveal they stole Miami Dolphins offensive signals"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/li...rts.html?in_article_id=565300&in_page_id=1781

2) NY Times:


"But did that admission include the taping of both defensive and offensive signals?
In the statement the league released after it reached a legal agreement with Walsh, the N.F.L. said that Goodell had determined “the Patriots had violated league rules by videotaping opposing coaches’ defensive signals” throughout Belichick’s tenure as head coach."

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/10/sports/football/10nfl.html



This all may come down to whether or not BB did indeed tell Goodell taping had occurred on both sides. If indeed he did, then once again, why the "F" doesn't Goodell simply have a quick statement confirming the Patriots had admitted to both.

Does anybody know if it was originally noted?

Mark my words - your papers are going to be filled with stories clamoring for more punishment and/or suspensions.

Man oh man - Tuesday cannot get here soon enough.


PS - if you really want to see how NY hatred is portrayed...read this beauty also from the NY Times with the usual chicken chit " unnamed NFL Executive":

. "In discussions of changes since 2000, one team, the New England Patriots, has surfaced more than any other, according to a longtime N.F.L. team executive with direct knowledge of the meetings."

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/11/sports/football/11nfl.html?_r=1&ref=sports&oref=slogin

Please tell me you're not seriously worried about the offensive signals crap fgssand!

Don't you even read the threads here? Try this one...

from Florio aka The Sprint Phone Pimp:

"So there’s really nothing to it. And, as others have pointed out, the rule that the Pats broke relates to taping generally, not to the taping of offensive or defensive signals. Thus, the presence of one tape with “offensive signals” doesn’t constitute the kind of new evidence that will land the team or coach Bill Belichick in a fresh vat of boiling water.

(INSERT OBLIGATORY SPRINT PHONE BALLSUCKING REFERENCE HERE)

We know that plenty of folks who don’t like the Patriots and/or media figures who want to see a compelling story fill the slow months because now and July hope that some previously undisclosed proof of cheating will emerge. If it does, it most likely won’t come from the Walsh tape with the “offensive signals.”

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/showthread.php?t=82452

http://www.profootballtalk.com/category/rumor-mill/

 

[BigMike]

"no Im Not!!!!"

 

[tdw777]

This BS has spun so many times...I've fallen off that merry go round and can't get back on. Why was it for the Dolphins to have the pats offensive signals..but we tape theirs and the sharks circle.

 

[Sivy]

This BS has spun so many times...I've fallen off that merry go round and can't get back on. Why was it for the Dolphins to have the pats offensive signals..but we tape theirs and the sharks circle.

the sharks are circling, only to get jumped.

 

[fgssand]

Please tell me you're not seriously worried about the offensive signals crap fgssand!

Don't you even read the threads here? Try this one...

from Florio aka The Sprint Phone Pimp:

"So there’s really nothing to it. And, as others have pointed out, the rule that the Pats broke relates to taping generally, not to the taping of offensive or defensive signals. Thus, the presence of one tape with “offensive signals” doesn’t constitute the kind of new evidence that will land the team or coach Bill Belichick in a fresh vat of boiling water.

(INSERT OBLIGATORY SPRINT PHONE BALLSUCKING REFERENCE HERE)

We know that plenty of folks who don’t like the Patriots and/or media figures who want to see a compelling story fill the slow months because now and July hope that some previously undisclosed proof of cheating will emerge. If it does, it most likely won’t come from the Walsh tape with the “offensive signals.”

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/showthread.php?t=82452

http://www.profootballtalk.com/category/rumor-mill/

Don't shoot me for communicating the message and possible intention of many of tha Patriot haters.

I understand the facts fully - the haters refuse to comprehend, as Mr. Reiss pointed out this AM in the Globe...

Four days after the Patriots were caught illegally videotaping the signals of Jets coaches in the Sept. 9, 2007, season opener, the NFL came down with its ruling against the club: the forfeiture of a 2008 first-round draft choice, a $500,000 fine for coach Bill Belichick, and a $250,000 fine for the club. The decision, as noted by the NFL at the time, was based on a rule regarding the taping of offensive and defensive signals.

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/articles/2008/05/11/tale_of_the_tape_revisited/

 

[shmessy]

Anyone remember those original 1967 Speed Racer cartoons?

Remember some of those races, when Speed was driving in a cave and he sees daylight, but the cave walls are closing in, closing in. If he doesn't make it he's entombed forever?

What does he do? He floors it - - and gets through just in time!

That's what the Hatriot media (and Specter) is doing right now. Last Wednesday night, they suddenly began seeing the first step to a conclusion of their beloved "Spygate". The walls of the cave are closing in.

They are desperately flooring it before they finally lose their one big chance.

 

[Tbrady12to88]

Since the news first broke that there was nothing new last week....each day the media haters continue to try to find something.

The latest that continues to grow every day now is the OFFENSIVE signal taping.

There are many cries for additional punishment because of it now....

1) Daily News



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/li...rts.html?in_article_id=565300&in_page_id=1781

2) NY Times:



http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/10/sports/football/10nfl.html

This all may come down to whether or not BB did indeed tell Goodell taping had occurred on both sides. If indeed he did, then once again, why the "F" doesn't Goodell simply have a quick statement confirming the Patriots had admitted to both.

Does anybody know if it was originally noted?

Mark my words - your papers are going to be filled with stories clamoring for more punishment and/or suspensions.

Man oh man - Tuesday cannot get here soon enough.

PS - if you really want to see how NY hatred is portrayed...read this beauty also from the NY Times with the usual chicken chit " unnamed NFL Executive":



http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/11/sports/football/11nfl.html?_r=1&ref=sports&oref=slogin

I don't know about being set up because this all comes down to what the commish decides irrespective of what the media says. Will he view this independently and render his own decision or will he let the mounting media pressure guide his decision? If this were a commissioner that was competent I would feel pretty good that he could end this and apply the appropriate message management to put out the fires quickly. Sadly this guy isn't competent.

I certainly have the feeling that the national media is working together to build this up to something that demands a huge amount of attention. By the time Tuesday morning gets here this is going to be as hyped as a Super Bowl. I am not comfortable that Roger the Terrible is going to be able to tolerate the media storm that is building. He'll probably feel like he has to take some form of additional action just to pacify the masses.

Instead if he really doesn't feel anything else is necessary he should say exactly just that and then immediately personally appear on as many sports talk shows as possible and fully explain his rationale. He needs to answer all the tough questions! This guy cannot continue to take the low profile route. If he wants this to end he has to get out front, he has to show confidence in his franchise, and he has to send the message to Senator Comcast that he will not allow him to continue to meddle in his business without a fight.