Pats trade 69 (3rd) to Chargers for 160 (5th), 2009 2nd

[PATRIOT64]

Re: Pats trade 69 to Chargers

I like it. It'll be a high 2nd rounder, but obviously the Pats aren't crazy about the third round this year enough to want three players out of it.

A HIGH second rounder? -

You mean you think the Chargers are going to suck this year? - Wishful thinking

 

[Watson's IQ]

Considering they have 2 more picks this round, it wasn't a bad idea at all.

There's several tempting players on the board right now: Connor, Avril specifically. I'm hoping one is still on the board when they pick again at R3P15

 

[everlong]

Considering this is the 6th pick in the 3rd round how many picks forward will this 2nd round be in next years draft considering it's the Chargers? 10? 12? I'd like this better if it was a team like the 49ers.

So many good players still on the board.

 

[Greg]

I really like this deal. Anyone drafted by this team will have an uphill battle to make the team. I dont think we need 3 3rd rounders this year. Hopefully, The chargers sputter a little bit next year. Could be a nice asset to have. Especially if we want to try and move up in next years first or hell maybe we could roll it over again into a future first.

 

[VOODOOZF]

Re: Pats trade 69 to Chargers for 160, 2009 2nd

That deal makes no sense.

The Chargers project to be one of the better teams in the NFL next year. Say they have the 29th pick in the 2nd round next year for example. How did the Patriots really help themselves when there are still quality players on the board this year?

To me they are being too cute with this trade.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Re: Pats trade 69 to Chargers

Yeah but they took Jacob Hester who would have made the perfect Patriot.

That may be, but, FWIW, the Pats like if not love all the RBs they currently have.

 

[upstater1]

Considering this is the 6th pick in the 3rd round how many picks forward will this 2nd round be in next years draft considering it's the Chargers? 10? 12? I'd like this better if it was a team like the 49ers.

So many good players still on the board.

This is exactly my thinking.

This translates to: the Draft SUCKS this year.

Just like it SUCKED last year.

Of course, the Patriots said that this year's draft would be deep.

If you're 70 players in and you're not enamored with a player at this pick, then that doesn't speak well for what's left. I've seen this movie before with the Patriots. The Chargers will be picking 28-30 next year. That means this 3rd comes 10 picks later than next year's 2nd. That's not enough for me not to take a player NOW in a supposedly deep draft.

Can't understand it unless Belichick is down on the available talent.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

I really like this deal. Anyone drafted by this team will have an uphill battle to make the team. I dont think we need 3 3rd rounders this year. Hopefully, The chargers sputter a little bit next year. Could be a nice asset to have. Especially if we want to try and move up in next years first or hell maybe we could roll it over again into a future first.

If that pick ends up where we all expect it to, if the Pats can turn it into a first in 2010, I'd probably do backflips all the way up to Foxboro.

 

[RayClay]

Sweet.

My take: They got their guy in Wheatley, they still have a high 3rd and a low third.

Also, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Diego fall apart. People underestimate the awful chemistry of whiners and finger pointers on that team and in their front office.

Obviously not a guarantee, but I'll throw it out there.

 

[Va_Pats_Fan]

Couple of thoughts,

- perhaps they are targeting someone, and he will be available when we pick next.
- The SD fans think we got the best of them....

http://forums.chargers.com/showthread.php?t=55775&page=143

Good move IMO

 

[upstater1]

I really like this deal. Anyone drafted by this team will have an uphill battle to make the team. I dont think we need 3 3rd rounders this year. Hopefully, The chargers sputter a little bit next year. Could be a nice asset to have. Especially if we want to try and move up in next years first or hell maybe we could roll it over again into a future first.

As I look at our roster, I see a lot of open spaces.

Pick another CB, see if he can take Lewis Sanders on the roster. Cliff Avril maybe for an outside pass rusher?

You know, BB and Pioli are geniuses but they're not fortune tellers. Several years ago we sat here as they passed over Adalius Thomas.

They can't predict everything.

 

[Greg]

Re: Pats trade 69 to Chargers for 160, 2009 2nd

That deal makes no sense.

The Chargers project to be one of the better teams in the NFL next year. Say they have the 29th pick in the 2nd round next year for example. How did the Patriots really help themselves when there are still quality players on the board this year?

To me they are being too cute with this trade.

They are helping themselves because they most likely wont be able to keep all 3 picks on the roster. We have gotten to a point that its very tough to make this team. Look at last years draft for example. Most of the guys we ended up cutting caught on with other NFL teams.

 

[PatsFan37]

I really like this deal. Anyone drafted by this team will have an uphill battle to make the team. I dont think we need 3 3rd rounders this year.

I don't get this logic. In that case, the Pats should use their early 3rd rounder and trade away their later picks.

They must figure the guy they want will be there for the later pick. That's all.

 

[everlong]

The other way to look at it is the Patriots still have enough player left on the board that they think they can get with the two remaining picks and they feel 3 3rd rounders won't make the team so they are trading for the future with the best deal available.

 

[Jimke]

Re: Pats trade 69 to Chargers for 160, 2009 2nd

That deal makes no sense.

The Chargers project to be one of the better teams in the NFL next year. Say they have the 29th pick in the 2nd round next year for example. How did the Patriots really help themselves when there are still quality players on the board this year?

To me they are being too cute with this trade.

I agree with you. The Charger pick next year will be a late round pick.
This year's 5th round pick will probably be cut. In the meantime 9
more good players come off the board before the Patriots pick again.

 

[primetime]

Re: Pats trade 69 to Chargers

A HIGH second rounder? -

You mean you think the Chargers are going to suck this year? - Wishful thinking

Judging by context, I believe he meant low, Commandant Grammar.

 

[bostonia3333]

I am not jumping for joy with this deal, but I am not angry. I was kind of waiting to see Ellis Hobb's replacement, that's kind of why I woke up to see this. Oh well, a 2nd rounder is nice too, it will be a low60s pick, the Chargers didn't get raped or anything in this

 

[Carpentier]

I don't like this trade either. The Chargers will probably make the play offs next year and may go very deep. God willing even winning the Superbowl. Honestly we just moved up may be ten spots next year. The Patriots haven't really had a good draft the last few years.

 

[primetime]

I am not jumping for joy with this deal, but I am not angry. I was kind of waiting to see Ellis Hobb's replacement, that's kind of why I woke up to see this. Oh well, a 2nd rounder is nice too, it will be a low60s pick, the Chargers didn't get raped or anything in this

You're probably going to have to wait awhile for Ellis Hobbs' replacement. Think 5, 6 years.

 

[upstater1]

Re: Pats trade 69 to Chargers for 160, 2009 2nd

They are helping themselves because they most likely wont be able to keep all 3 picks on the roster. We have gotten to a point that its very tough to make this team. Look at last years draft for example. Most of the guys we ended up cutting caught on with other NFL teams.

That was last year though. It was a tight roster. This year's isn't.

A good player can stick at these positions: QB, RB, WR, OL, TE, backup DL, OLB/ILB, CB.

Our roster is open this year by comparison. Only safety seems solid to me, but only if Merriweather sticks there.