Let's play a draft game

[PATSNUTme]

Here is the player rankings from Pro Football Weekly as of 4/11/08.

http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFLDraft/Player+Rankings/2008/AllPositions.htm

First make your Patriots draft picks using the player rankings. You can pick any player ranked AT or BELOW the Patriots picks. NO Trades. here are the Patriots picks currently:

PATRIOTS 7 62 69 94 129 164 197 238

After you have made your picks in accordance with the above you can do another with trades as long as the trades equal the value chart.

To be clear: At #7 you can pick any player ranked at #7 or ranked below #7. at 62 you can pick any player ranked #62 or below but not ranked above #62. ect , ect

I'll be back with my picks later.

 

[12+81=TD]

I'll give it a shot (No Trades):

#7: Ryan Clady OT
#62: Geno Hayes OLB
#69: Antoine Cason CB
#94: Thomas Zbikowski SS
#129: John Sullivan OG
#164: Keenan Burton WR
#197: Jonathan Goff ILB
#238: Derek Fine TE

Wow, I'd love that draft...according to thier rankings :eat1:

Draft (With Trades - a.k.a. Dream Draft):

Trade #7 and #69 to Kansas City for #5

#5: Chris Long DE
#62: Antoine Cason CB
#94: Thomas Zbikowski SS
#129: John Sullivan OG

Trade #164 & #238 to San Diego for #160

#160: Harry Douglas IV WR - (Sorry, I'm a huge U of L fan :rocker
#197: Jonathan Goff ILB

Well, that's it...Love it or Hate it...my picks.

 

[NePatriots]

7-Harvey DE/LB
62-Rachal OG
69-Cason CB
94-Thomas CB
129-Molden CB
164-Hillis FB
197-Goff LB
238-Fine TE

 

[PATSNUTme]

#7 Keith Rivers
#62 C. Godfrey, CB
#69 A. Cason CB - more FS
#94 P. Wheeler, LB
#129 J.Hester, RB
#164 C. Steltz SS
#197 J. Goff, LB
#238 D. Fine TE

No OL help but I'd be happy with that draft overall.

 

[Crazyeechrispats1]

Groves
Flowers
Avril
Molden
Zibokowi
Offensive lineman
Punter
Bell

 

[mavfan2390]

Pats trade 7 to the 'Boys for 22 and 28. The 'Boys badly want McFadden, so they take him, the Pats get bigger bang for their buck.

Also, we trade 62 and 69 to the Falcons for 37, they have many needs and would love to get some more picks in a deep draft.

22. Mike Jenkins, CB, USF- best CB available, fills need
28. Jerod Mayo, ILB, Tenn- best cover LB in the draft, rising for a reason
37. Cliff Avril, OLB, Purdue- Colvin's replacement?
94. Durant Brooks, P, Georgia Tech- bit of a reach, but we need a better punter
129. Anthony Collin, OT, Kansas- great value

 

[tjones7]

No Trades:

#7. D. McFadden RB Arkansas
#62. J. Barrett SS Arizona St.
#69. Charles Godfrey CB/FS Iowa
#94. Philip Wheeler ILB Georgia Tech
#129. Marcus Howard OLB Georgia

This is not at all how I think the draft would go but with these constraints I consider this to be the best possible situation for the Pats, trade McFadden later for players and not for the picks.

Trades:

Pats trade 7 to the 'Boys for 22 and 28. The 'Boys badly want McFadden, so they take him, the Pats get bigger bang for their buck.

Also, we trade 62 and 69 to the Falcons for 37, they have many needs and would love to get some more picks in a deep draft. (Yes I just stole this scenario from mavfan, but I like it.)

#22. Jerod Mayo ILB Tennessee
#28. Patrick Lee CB Auburn
#37. Cliff Avril/Groves OLB Purdue/Auburn (whichever floats your boat)
#94. Carl Nicks OT Nebraska
#129. Jack Ikegwuonu CB Wisconsin (worth the risk)

If we had these picks this is how I would want the draft to go, I picked all of the players slightly before their ranking

 

[SamBamsFan]

7- Leodis McKelvin. Cb, Troy
62- Antoine Cason, CB, Ariz.
69- Duane Brown, OG, VA Tech
94- Ahtyba Rubin, DT, Iowa St.
129- Anthony Collins, OT, Kansas
164- Stanford Keglar, ILB, Purdue
199- Jonathan Goff, ilb, Vanderbilt
238- Jonathan Hefney, S, Tennessee

 

[JoePats]

7- Keith Rivers, LB, USC
62- Antoine Cason, CB, Ariz.
69- Charles Godfrey, CB, Iowa
94- Shawn Crable, LB, Michigan
129- Marcus Howard, LB, Georgia
164- Tony Hills, OT, Texas
199- Owen Schmitt, FB, West Virginia
238- Jonathan Hefney, CB, Tennessee

 

[Seneschal2]

Truly one of the worse prospect rankings I've seen yet. That said:

7 Derrick Harvey
62 Antoine Cason
69 Chris Johnson
94 Ahtyba Rubin
129 Terrence Wheatley
164 Stanford Keglar
197 Keenan Burton
238 Jonathan Goff

 

[PonyExpress]

Truly one of the worse prospect rankings I've seen yet. That said:

7 Derrick Harvey
62 Antoine Cason
69 Chris Johnson
94 Ahtyba Rubin
129 Terrence Wheatley
164 Stanford Keglar
197 Keenan Burton
238 Jonathan Goff

When the draft process began, I was very interested in DHarvey, like many others, after watching his college career. But at 270 lbs he is not an explosive athlete. He ran a 4.84 and 4.94 at the combine, with a slow 1st 10 yards, a meagre VJ, among the lowest of all DE prospects.

People seem to forget that his effort was very spotty last season, even more so than Gholston's. Now we're going to draft him at #7, ask him to lose weight or tranform his body, transition to a new position, learn the Pats complex scheme...

Doesn't that make you nervous? If I were a 4-3 team I would consider him in the mid 20s. Otherwise, DHarvey's too much of a risk for me.

 

[Seneschal2]

...Doesn't that make you nervous? If I were a 4-3 team I would consider him in the mid 20s. Otherwise, DHarvey's too much of a risk for me.

Albert was my original choice, but couldn't get the edge rusher I wanted later on, based on these stupid rankings (and with no trades). In addition, had to sneak in some of my other favorites as well.

I'm not completely sold on Harvey yet -- but I'm not ruling him out either. The DE/OLB position is extremely difficult to evaluate especially when considering their LB responsibilities. Only the Pats scouts and coaches KNOW (or think they know), if a player can make that conversion. Fans like you and I only guess -- huge difference.

In the real deal, there's only one player I'd draft at #7. Chances are he'll be gone, therefore trading down to draft a CB. Bet you can't guess who these two players are.

Anyway, this is not my mock, as I'm just playing a game. BTW, when are you going to participate?

 

[PonyExpress]

Anyway, this is not my mock, as I'm just playing a game. BTW, when are you going to participate?

I didn't want to be repetitive. It seems like I keep repeating my opinions on this board, and it must be boring to anyone who takes the trouble to read them. I started a thread called "Multiple Personality Mocks" using the PFW draft chart earlier in the week.

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/showthread.php?t=80764

BTW, I wasn't trying to be hypercritical, I'm genuinely interested in your opinion on these issues.

 

[patchick]

No Trade ...
#7 Leodis McKelvin, CB
#62 Antoine Cason, CB
#69 Red Bryant, DT
#94 Jeremy Zuttah, OL
#129 Curtis Johnson, OLB
#164 Darius Reynaud, RB/WR
#197 Jonathan Goff, LB
#238 Joey Haynos, TE

Weird with the 2 CBs at the top, but overall some good talent, I think.

TRADE
#7 & #62 to Denver for #12, #42 & #108

#12 Leodis McKelvin, CB
#42 Quentin Groves, OLB
TRADE
#69 & #108 to Green Bay for #60
#60 Ray Rice, RB
#94 Ahtyba Rubin, DT
#129 Jack Ikegwuonu, CB
#164 Stanford Keglar, LB
#197 Jonathan Goff, LB
#238 Joey Haynos, TE

 

[PonyExpress]

No Trade ...
#7 Leodis McKelvin, CB
#62 Antoine Cason, CB
#69 Red Bryant, DT
#94 Jeremy Zuttah, OL
#129 Curtis Johnson, OLB
#164 Darius Reynaud, RB/WR
#197 Jonathan Goff, LB
#238 Joey Haynos, TE

Weird with the 2 CBs at the top, but overall some good talent, I think.

TRADE
#7 & #62 to Denver for #12, #42 & #108

#12 Leodis McKelvin, CB
#42 Quentin Groves, OLB
TRADE
#69 & #108 to Green Bay for #60
#60 Ray Rice, RB
#94 Ahtyba Rubin, DT
#129 Jack Ikegwuonu, CB
#164 Stanford Keglar, LB
#197 Jonathan Goff, LB
#238 Joey Haynos, TE

What made you take the plunge with McKelvin? I haven't reached that point yet. Athletically he meets every criteria, I just have a bias against small school cbs. Everything else is fantastic, except I have no idea who Curtis Johnson is. That's my problem.

 

[PATSNUTme]

To assist those who want to do trades, here is a draft order chart. The second half of the chart show piks by team.

http://www.thehuddlereport.com/FREE_CONTENT/draftorder.shtml

And a trade value board:

http://www.thehuddlereport.com/FREE_CONTENT/draft_tools/tradechart.shtml

 

[drpatriot]

Disclaimer: This is trade heavy.

Trade: Patriots to Vikings
Pats 7, 129
Vikings 17, 47, 80
17: Domonique Rogers-Cromartie, CB, Tennessee State
Trade: Patriots to Cincinnati
Pats 47, 197
Cincinnati 46
46: Cliff Avril, OLB, Purdue
Trade: Patriots to Steelers
Pats 62
Steelers 88, 123, 156, 188
69: Earl Bennett, WR, Vanderbilt
80: Antoine Cason, CB, Arizona
88: Chris Johnson, RB, East Carolina
94: Shawn Crable, OLB, Michigan
Trade: Patriots to Chiefs
Pats 123 156
Chiefs 136 140
136: Jake Ikegwuonu, CB, Wisconsin
140: Dennis Dixon, QB, Oregon
164: Tony Hills, OT, Texas
188: Adrian Arrington, WR, Michigan
238: Derek Fine, TE, Kansas

Final Draft
17: Domonique Rogers-Cromartie, CB, Tennessee State
46: Cliff Avril, OLB, Purdue
69: Earl Bennett, WR, Vanderbilt
80: Antoine Cason, CB, Arizona
88: Chris Johnson, RB, East Carolina
94: Shawn Crable, OLB, Michigan
136: Jake Ikegwuonu, CB, Wisconsin
140: Dennis Dixon, QB, Oregon
164: Tony Hills, OT, Texas
188: Adrian Arrington, WR, Michigan
238: Derek Fine, TE, Kansas

 

[Seneschal2]

I didn't want to be repetitive. It seems like I keep repeating my opinions on this board, and it must be boring to anyone who takes the trouble to read them. I started a thread called "Multiple Personality Mocks" using the PFW draft chart earlier in the week.

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/showthread.php?t=80764

BTW, I wasn't trying to be hypercritical, I'm genuinely interested in your opinion on these issues.

Thanks, and your opinion on the draft is highly respected here as well. Now I shall visit the above thread...

 

[nickw308810]

I love playing this game for some reason, gives you a good feel for the draft, can't wait for new prospect rankings so we can do it again.

7. Branden Albert OG/OT Virginia
62. Antoine Cason CB Arizona
69. Charles Godfrey CB Iowa
94. Chevis Jackson CB LSU
129. Marcus Howard OLB Georgia
164. Jonathan Goff ILB Vanderbilt
197. Ezra Butler OLB Nevada
238. Derek Fine TE Kansas

I'd be very happy with this draft, we would get a starter at either RG/RT who could develop a few years until we are ready to move Light to RT. All three CB fit the system and play special teams/return kicks. We would be set for years with this trio. The three LB would add depth and though Butler apparently has a weed problem, with a sixth round pick and considering his experience in the 3-4, he would be well worth the pick.

 

[bokonon]

7 CB Leodis McKelvin Troy
62 DT Dre Moore Maryland
69 CB Antoine Cason Arizona
94 P Durant Brooks Georgia Tech
129 ILB James "Beau" Bell UNLV
164 OLB Stanford Keglar Purdue
197 ILB Jonathan Goff Vanderbilt
238 CB Jonathan Hefney Tennessee

The offense will be just fine...