Patriots 3 round mock

[VJCPatriot]

Round 1
Quentin Groves OLB. Pats add an explosive pass rusher to get to the QB, and relieve the pressure from the secondary.

(Patriots trade down with the Bears, they get the #14 pick and the Bear's second round pick.)

Round 2
Antoine Cason CB. Corner is a need. Cason is not a speed burner but he's fundamentally solid, and he's not a midget.

(Patriots trade up in the second round using the Bear's pick, and one of their extra thirds.)

Sam Baker OT. Pats shore up the right side of the offensive line.

Round 3
Jonathon Goff ILB. There are concerns about Goff's stiffness, but he showed athleticism at the combine, and he showed plenty of leadership and tackling ability at Vanderbilt. He also happens to have the ideal size for a Patriot linebacker.

Brad Cottam TE. BB sure loves his tight ends, and he adds another one here. Cottam is a huge inline blocker. At 6'7, 270 lbs, it's almost like having an extra tackle out in space.

 

[primetime]

Would be an absolutely ideal draft. Won't happen, but these are basically all the guys I want out of the draft.

 

[VJCPatriot]

Would be an absolutely ideal draft. Won't happen, but these are basically all the guys I want out of the draft.

Well I'm glad you liked it. I know, no draft turns out ideally. But if the Pats draft turned out close to this, I think I would be pleased.

 

[HEY BRO! WHAT UP?]

That's actually a pretty good mock draft, I'd be happy with that. While everybody is talking about Long and Ghoulston, Groves is a sleeper and would love to get this guy if the Pats don't score Ghoulston. Every need is addressed.

 

[JoePats]

That trade with the Bears isn't happening.

 

[VJCPatriot]

That trade with the Bears isn't happening.

Why not?

1. It fits the trade value chart.

2. This ensures the Bears can draft Matt Ryan. Rex Grossman has been a monumental bust for them. He's holding them back, and they know it.

 

[Canada's #1 Pats Fan]

2. This ensures the Bears can draft Matt Ryan. Rex Grossman has been a monumental bust for them. He's holding them back, and they know it.

I don't think Matt Ryan gets past Atlanta now that they signed Turner at RB

 

[JoePats]

And couldn't the Chiefs grab him at 5? Is that impossible?

I'd love for Ryan to be there at #7 but there are three teams that I don't see him slipping past. And there are going to be teams ahead of us that would like to trade back as well if they could.

 

[jeffbiologist]

I like it if Gholston isnt there. There is never a substitute for the best pass rusher available. Not sure if Cason will be there, or if the trade is worth it as you are likely to get Terrell where you are in the 2nd--they are projecting 10 CBs in the first 2 rounds. Because if you do that trade you lose either Cottam or Goff(who I dont think will go til 4-5th rd).
Same trade, we trade up to get Albert (OL VA) in the 2nd and use our hi 3rd on the cb.....I am not completely sold on Cottam because he is injury prone and not known as a blocker....and NO, thats not something you can teach a guy as a pro.

 

[VJCPatriot]

And couldn't the Chiefs grab him at 5? Is that impossible?

I'd love for Ryan to be there at #7 but there are three teams that I don't see him slipping past. And there are going to be teams ahead of us that would like to trade back as well if they could.

It's possible the Chiefs take a QB at 5, but their oline is in far worse shape. I keep seeing Long or Clady projected there. You talk about Ryan not making it to 7 as if it's a certainty, but that's not true. It all depends on how the draft shakes out, but I'm thinking odds are he will be.

I like it if Gholston isnt there. There is never a substitute for the best pass rusher available. Not sure if Cason will be there, or if the trade is worth it as you are likely to get Terrell where you are in the 2nd--they are projecting 10 CBs in the first 2 rounds. Because if you do that trade you lose either Cottam or Goff(who I dont think will go til 4-5th rd).
Same trade, we trade up to get Albert (OL VA) in the 2nd and use our hi 3rd on the cb.....I am not completely sold on Cottam because he is injury prone and not known as a blocker....and NO, thats not something you can teach a guy as a pro.

So you do agree that adding a 1st day OL is a need, just differing on the name? Of course there's no guarantee that Cason lasts to the second, but if he does, the Pats have the ammo to move up and get him.

 

[jeffbiologist]

The first day I would say their needs are
A- OLB -pass rusher,best they can get
B1-CB-best avail
B2-OL-best avail that can play both G and T
C-TE-a blocker

If Gholston isnt there you have Groves and Avril, trade down targeting one of them. The only OL I would get before the 3rd rd is Albert because he is an athlete and can play multiple posiitons. CB is deep, we will trade off end speed for coachability.

 

[MaineiacPatsFan]

I would love to see something like this:

Round 1 Gholston DE/OLB Ohio St
Round 2 Cason CB Ariz
Round 3a Smith CB Oklahoma
Round 3b Carlson TE ND
Round 4 Goff-ILB Vandy
Round 5 Radovich G USC
Round 6 Dragosavich P ND St.

Another (possibly unrealistic) scenario is to find a trade down and pick up Groves or Rivers in Rd 1 and possibly a higher rated corner or LB in mid Rd 2.

 

[dryheat44]

Why not?

1. It fits the trade value chart.

2. This ensures the Bears can draft Matt Ryan. Rex Grossman has been a monumental bust for them. He's holding them back, and they know it.

The Bears could very well trade up to get Ryan....with the Jets at #6. The Jets don't have a pressing need at the #6 spot, and they'll be trying to trade the pick as aggressively as the Pats will be.

That being said, you did a nice job picking players.

 

[DaBruinz]

Round 1
Quentin Groves OLB. Pats add an explosive pass rusher to get to the QB, and relieve the pressure from the secondary.

(Patriots trade down with the Bears, they get the #14 pick and the Bear's second round pick.)

Round 2
Antoine Cason CB. Corner is a need. Cason is not a speed burner but he's fundamentally solid, and he's not a midget.

(Patriots trade up in the second round using the Bear's pick, and one of their extra thirds.)

Sam Baker OT. Pats shore up the right side of the offensive line.

Round 3
Jonathon Goff ILB. There are concerns about Goff's stiffness, but he showed athleticism at the combine, and he showed plenty of leadership and tackling ability at Vanderbilt. He also happens to have the ideal size for a Patriot linebacker.

Brad Cottam TE. BB sure loves his tight ends, and he adds another one here. Cottam is a huge inline blocker. At 6'7, 270 lbs, it's almost like having an extra tackle out in space.

Why would the Pats over-pay to move UP in the 2nd round to take Sam Baker?

Also, I don't believe that Cottam is going to be on the Pats board because of his injury concerns.

 

[DaBruinz]

And couldn't the Chiefs grab him at 5? Is that impossible?

I'd love for Ryan to be there at #7 but there are three teams that I don't see him slipping past. And there are going to be teams ahead of us that would like to trade back as well if they could.

The Chiefs already have their QB of the future in Brody Croyle. They KNOW that OT is a bigger need than another QB.

 

[dryheat44]

The Chiefs already have their QB of the future in Brody Croyle. They KNOW that OT is a bigger need than another QB.

Atlanta cut Harrington today, so barring a trade, I don't see a way they don't draft Ryan. They have Chris Redman and DJ Shockley at QB now.

 

[Ochmed Jones]

Excellent job VC. This would be the perfect draft scenario.

I could easily live with this draft.

PS: If Balker's arms were an inch or two longer and he had stayed healthy, he could have been as hightly regarded as J Long.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Round 1
(Patriots trade down with the Bears, they get the #14 pick and the Bear's second round pick.)

(Patriots trade up in the second round using the Bear's pick, and one of their extra thirds.)

Round 3
Jonathon Goff ILB. There are concerns about Goff's stiffness, but he showed athleticism at the combine, and he showed plenty of leadership and tackling ability at Vanderbilt. He also happens to have the ideal size for a Patriot linebacker.

Brad Cottam TE. BB sure loves his tight ends, and he adds another one here. Cottam is a huge inline blocker. At 6'7, 270 lbs, it's almost like having an extra tackle out in space.

I'm confused. . . . didn't you trade one of these thirds away?

 

[DaBruinz]

Atlanta cut Harrington today, so barring a trade, I don't see a way they don't draft Ryan. They have Chris Redman and DJ Shockley at QB now.

I didn't say otherwise, DH. I was just pointing out that KC has their QB and wouldn't be drafting one the way JoePats thought.

I agree that Atlanta has all but telegraphed that they are going to take a QB with one of their 1st two picks. It will probably be Ryan unless he goes off the board to either Miami or the Rams. Yes, I said the Rams. Bulger has a history or injuries and I wouldn't be surprised to see the Rams take Ryan.

Atlanta could be a trading partner for the Pats for Cassel for their early 2nd round pick. I wouldn't mind seeing the Pats do that.

 

[dryheat44]

I didn't say otherwise, DH. I was just pointing out that KC has their QB and wouldn't be drafting one the way JoePats thought.

I agree that Atlanta has all but telegraphed that they are going to take a QB with one of their 1st two picks. It will probably be Ryan unless he goes off the board to either Miami or the Rams. Yes, I said the Rams. Bulger has a history or injuries and I wouldn't be surprised to see the Rams take Ryan.

Atlanta could be a trading partner for the Pats for Cassel for their early 2nd round pick. I wouldn't mind seeing the Pats do that.

I was backing up what you said, not contradicting it. I think it's way too early for KC to bail on Croyle, especially since the O-line sucks and the receivers are sub-par.

Like I just finished posting elsewhere, if the Falcons don't take Ryan at #3, it's because somebody traded up to get him at #2.