Reiss: Moss situation analysis

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http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/2008/03/randy_moss_anal.html

Randy Moss analysis
Posted by Mike Reiss, Globe Staff
March 2, 2008 06:08 PM

ANALYSIS
Some thoughts on the Patriots and Randy Moss:

When the deadline for placing the franchise tag on players passed – and the Patriots did not tag Randy Moss – the tone for negotiations was set.

While the Patriots could have restricted Moss’s free-agent movement with the tag, they apparently decided that it was a better approach to play nice. Moss, they likely believed, wasn’t the type of person who would react favorably to having his options limited, especially after agreeing to restructure his deal (and take considerably less pay) in 2007.

With that in mind, the feeling here is that the ongoing “negotiation” between the Patriots and Moss is not contentious.

The Patriots have made an offer to Moss that they obviously feel is a good one.

Moss, on the other hand, obviously isn’t convinced.

So the only way to reach a resolution is for Moss to explore the open market and see if he can find a better deal. If he doesn't, he can come to a better comfort level with what the Patriots are offering.

as usual , most balanced and no rumor mongering analysis like "he is to the packers, cowboys and anyone u can think of"

 

[Sean Pa Patriot]

Re: Reiss:Moss situation analysis

Reiss is pretty solid, and trustworthy..

 

[flasox27]

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After the interviews with Belichick and Pioli, you know he is getting some insight from people who know.

 

[psychoPat]

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Reiss is pretty solid, and trustworthy..

I'll match ... and raise.

Reiss is the only reporter in print or pix whom
i believe.

 

[Dom]

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I'll match ... and raise.

Reiss is the only reporter in print or pix whom
i believe.

Reiss is the only reporter whom I read...

 

[eom]

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http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/2008/03/randy_moss_anal.html

ummm.....is this link work safe....?

 

[TN Patriot]

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ummm.....is this link work safe....?

Yes. they just cut off part of analysis.

 

[MRBLAZE]

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Sold analysis, too bad not all who left a comment on his site were too thoughtful... Look at this boneheads remark, comment #2 by "Paula"..

"Moss sounds like he is being GREEDY is he forgeting when NO other team would take a chance on him The Patriots did. and now that they did give him that chance This is how he repays them Moss is greedy. And this is how he treats the Patriots ,"

I think it's disingenuous to act like the Patriots took a huge gamble on Moss and really went out of their way to get him, they acquired him in an outright STEAL, AND he restructured his contract and took a considerable paycut.....

 

[FarScapeR]

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I think he'll be back, but let's not be foolish here. The patriots will still be the patriots without Randy Moss. If he walks, it's his loss and he may never have another shot at a ring. The only person on the team who would lose out would be Brady, who has already said bye to Stallworth and Kyle Brady and probably doesn't know if Gaffney is coming back.

 

[pheenix11]

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You know the 2nd comment makes a good point.

We gave Moss a chance when no one else would touch him with a 10 foot pole. We have him a chance to set records and play for a SB and basically resurrect his career.

Is that faith not worth some kind of discount?

 

[Patjew]

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Did Moss sign anywhere yet? Just wondering if I might've missed it.

 

[PatsFanSince74]

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Reiss' analysis makes a lot of sense.

Both sides took a chance last year. Moss restructured away several million dollars. The Patriots paid him several million dollars despite his "issues."

Both sides kept their part of the deal. Moss played like the player he used to be. The Patriots gave him a great opportunity on the field and paid him the money they agreed to pay him.

Now, it's a fresh start for both sides. Franchising him would not only have antagonized him, but it also would have been the "wrong thing to do," not that the Pats usually worry too much about the latter.

Moss is right to test the market but I believe he will be back in Foxboro this summer. My view is that he will play for the Pats for a "little less" than he could get elsewhere but not for a "lot less." It is unlikely that other teams will make him a bank-breaking deal because of his history.

 

[eom]

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Sold analysis, too bad not all who left a comment on his site were too thoughtful... Look at this boneheads remark, comment #2 by "Paula"..

"Moss sounds like he is being GREEDY is he forgeting when NO other team would take a chance on him The Patriots did. and now that they did give him that chance This is how he repays them Moss is greedy. And this is how he treats the Patriots ,"

I think it's disingenuous to act like the Patriots took a huge gamble on Moss and really went out of their way to get him, they acquired him in an outright STEAL, AND he restructured his contract and took a considerable paycut.....

dude, I know moss gives you a chubby, but he wasn't doing new england any favors, he did it for himself.
he restructured his contract and gave up millions because otherwise he'd still be rotting in oakland.
he chewed his own leg off to get out of there, and the pats were the ones throwing him a life preserver.
now, he commands top dollar and it's because brady threw him 23 td's.
nobody was talking about giving him this kind of money on the tail end of that woeful oakland stint.

frankly, I was about sick of hearing about randy moss a month ago.

ps

the curious thing to me in all this, is why isn't he already signed up in jax if he didn't intend to come back to the pats?

 

[Fanfrom1960]

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Did Moss sign anywhere yet? Just wondering if I might've missed it.

Not announced or this site would be completely bonkers.

 

[Patjew]

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Not announced or this site would be completely bonkers.

Thanks. I couldn't find any Randy Moss threads, so I was just wondering.

(sorry, just having a laugh)

 

[Fanfrom1960]

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Thanks. I couldn't find any Randy Moss threads, so I was just wondering.

(sorry, just having a laugh)

It's actually relatively quiet here today. Monday, Monday, or people getting sick of it, or people just resigned to waiting for the process to work its way through? Some of each I suppose. I guess there was no comparable mania at Steelers boards about Roethlisberger because everybody assumed he was coming back. I am beginning to wonder though if Patsfans do freak more over free agency than any other team's fans.

 

[fourthandmiles]

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Did Moss sign anywhere yet? Just wondering if I might've missed it.

You are like 12 hours ahead of us right? So if he signs tomorrow, you will be the first to know. It is up to You to let US know what is going on. So has he signed tomorrow or not?

 

[Dragda]

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Reiss is the only reporter whom I read...

I occassionally read others if links are provided here and are compelling enough to click on I'll check it out.

But consistently, Reiss is the guy. I have my RSS client tuned to his page for updates so new links show up right on my Windows Mobile phone.

I heard a nighttime sports talk radio program that wouldn't mention any names of reporters that weren't any good, but mentioned Reiss and one other guy from another part of the country as the premier sports reporters who have everyone's respect in the industry. They said there are likely many others in smaller markets that don't have the attention that these two guys had because the local teams weren't championship caliber, but it was high praise. I was mildly surprised as I thought he was our little secret.

 

[JoeSixPat]

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How dare Reiss report that Moss is exploring options with other teams in search of more money?!!!!!

This is an outrage... watch out Mike... what you say might be common sense but people around here are gonna question your ethics and integrity for issuing an unsubstantiated report, especially when Moss is on the record with the Patriots saying he only wants to play here and that he's not looking to break the bank.

Not that I'm surprised at all - Moss is a great player, especially when he's motivated by a new contract... and he certainly SAYS all the right things about only wanting to play here and not wanting top dollar... only to enter negotiations with the prospect that he's willing to play elsewhere for more money.