Belichick needs to go to charm school [merged]

[OhExaulted1]

BB charms the right people. The ownership, his assistant coaches and his players.

I doubt his contract includes being a "media personality".

Why do the fans love him? He's made this franchise a winner. That's his job and he's damn good at it.

 

[RayClay]

Re: Belichick needs to go to charm school

I don't know... I find him very entertaining. When ever he snubs the mediots in his usual way it always gets a laugh and a lingering smile out of me. :singing:

I like his dry sense of humor myself. I wish he'd use it more.

I have to admit, even as a fan,I'll click on his press conferences and decide to do statistics homework instead, because it's more interesting.

"day to day", "I'm not a doctor" "we're competitive" zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

I can't imagine trying to make an interesting story out of what he says. I think he's a great guy, not a phony, but let's face it sanctimonious Aholes like Dungy or pugnacious pr**ks like Parcells at least give you a story angle.

Some of BB's press conferences are like trying to write a food review when the meal is dry toast.

They will find something to write.

 

[RayClay]

BB charms the right people. The ownership, his assistant coaches and his players.

I doubt his contract includes being a "media personality".

Why do the fans love him? He's made this franchise a winner. That's his job and he's damn good at it.

The National Football League isn't concerned with media? I bet that's news to them.

Why do all those newspaper have sports pages, probably more well read than news.

There aren't sports channels on TV? There isn't a netwrork entirely devoted to the NFL that requires media input constantly?

What planet r u from, my friend?

His contract doesn't include being a media personality, eh? Would it surprise you to know Kraft talked to him about his handling of people/media as more of a concern than his coaching when he was hired?

That's what I understand.

Are you saying he trots out to answer questions after every game because he enjoys it?

I think that's pretty much his obligation of being a media personality.

 

[OhExaulted1]

The National Football League isn't concerned with media? I bet that's news to them.

Why do all those newspaper have sports pages, probably more well read than news.

There aren't sports channels on TV? There isn't a netwrork entirely devoted to the NFL that requires media input constantly?

What planet r u from, my friend?

His contract doesn't include being a media personality, eh? Would it surprise you to know Kraft talked to him about his handling of people/media as more of a concern than his coaching when he was hired?

That's what I understand.

Are you saying he trots out to answer questions after every game because he enjoys it?

I think that's pretty much his obligation of being a media personality.

He coaches a football team. He doesn't work for the E channel or TMZ.

He get's paid to COACH FOOTBALL.

The NFL is concerned with media. BB is concerned with winning football games.

Your right though, we need a media darling to head this football team. Maybe we should hire Justin Timberlake or Oprah as our next HC.

Who cares about winning as long as you look good and people "like you".

 

[IcyPatriot]

Re: Belichick needs to go to charm school

Any NFL head coach is a public face for a team and media and public relations is a very real part of the job in the age of technology that we live in.

Actually you are totally wrong. The head coach's job concerning the media is the mandated post game interviews ... nothing more than that is required. Public relations is for the public relations department ... like all the charity and social work the players do ... Belichick DOES A TON OF THAT ALSO ... WITHOUT THE MEDIAS KNOWLEDGE. You want nice then go be a Colts fan ... I hear their coach is a saint.

 

[upstater1]

Easily one of the craziest posts I've read on this website.

Belichick hurts the Patriots.

 

[RayClay]

He coaches a football team. He doesn't work for the E channel or TMZ.

He get's paid to COACH FOOTBALL.

The NFL is concerned with media. BB is concerned with winning football games.

Your right though, we need a media darling to head this football team. Maybe we should hire Justin Timberlake or Oprah as our next HC.

Who cares about winning as long as you look good and people "like you".

So you're saying he does those press conferences because he enjoys them? They're voluntary?

 

[OhExaulted1]

So you're saying he does those press conferences because he enjoys them? They're voluntary?

I'm saying it's the one part of his job he hates and he's not good at.

I'll take that and a team that competes for a title every year over a losing team with a coach the media likes anyday.

Apparently you guys expect an inspirational JFK-type speech every time he steps to the podium.

I like wins. You like pulpit speeches. I guess that's where we differ.

 

[RayClay]

I'm saying it's the one part of his job he hates and he's not good at.

I'll take that and a team that competes for a title every year over a losing team with a coach the media likes anyday.

Apparently you guys expect an inspirational JFK-type speech every time he steps to the podium.

I like wins. You like pulpit speeches. I guess that's where we differ.

You agree with me then.

Considering we're three years from a super Bowl and have to deal with spygate, and other bull**** constantly, I'd say the lack of effectiveness at this part of his job has become a distraction.

He didn't lose his job at Cleveland because he was a bad coach, Modell knew he was a good coach. His failure was handling player and media issues.

He's improved a lot in dealing with players, you'd think he would address a real simple problem that has become a tremendous distraction.

If it wasn't a distraction, I wouldn't bring it up. It is.

 

[OhExaulted1]

You agree with me then.

Considering we're three years from a super Bowl and have to deal with spygate, and other bull**** constantly, I'd say the lack of effectiveness at this part of his job has become a distraction.

He didn't lose his job at Cleveland because he was a bad coach, Modell knew he was a good coach. His failure was handling player and media issues.

He's improved a lot in dealing with players, you'd think he would address a real simple problem that has become a tremendous distraction.

If it wasn't a distraction, I wouldn't bring it up. It is.

It's a direct result of his success. It breeds jealousy and contempt.

I like how you characterize it as a "simple problem".

The Boston and national media are a "simple problem". OK. Gotcha.

My advice to BB would be this:

Don't change your stripes and keep this team a winner. F**k these media clowns.

 

[RayClay]

It's a direct result of his success. It breeds jealousy and contempt.

I like how you characterize it as a "simple problem".

The Boston and national media are a "simple problem". OK. Gotcha.

My advice to BB would be this:

Don't change your stripes and keep this team a winner. F**k these media clowns.

I have never seen a team and a coach held in such contempt by the media (which is practically everywhere these days).

Red Auerbach was hated at least since '61 when I started following the Celtics, but he handled the press. He always had something funny or controversial to say.

He handled the press and maintained a psychological edge over other teams and owners.

The Celtics never had to fight all the media and the league in addition to other teams.

The Patriots looked mentally fatigued in the Super Bowl (coaching too).

Did having to fight the idiot press every day have something to do with it?

It didn't help.

 

[RayClay]

I like how you characterize it as a "simple problem".

The Boston and national media are a "simple problem". OK. Gotcha.

It is a simple problem, unless you're stupid or have no personality.

BB is certainly smart, funny and interesting.

Hell, if he made a PBJ sandwich instead of those monotone, nothing revealed press conferences he'd get a laugh for the day.

It's not rocket science, a million media members have to file a story every day. If you don't give them anything and glare at them like they're subhuman, what do you expect them to print?

 

[Sean Pa Patriot]

I was listening to Felger, Capers is the first big coach , that is from the so called non tree.. Do you start to wonder if this was his move, or a move initiated by Robert Kraft to have a plan in case Belichick has to miss some time because of this spygate nonsense.?? Again Felger is suspecting that not me...But its food for thought

 

[JoeyC]

I think Bellichick is a principled man...... A Modern Day Harold Roark (The Fountainhead). I for one couldn't give a SH*T what the media thinks. I want him to coach this team and coach it well. What Bill is guilty of is making an error in judgement (videotaping)..He screwed up and was punished for it.. Does anyone on this board really believe that the media would have been more lenient if he was nice to them?????? Please!!!!!!! The only way the media would have been any easier on this franchise is if its record since 2000 was 7 and 105.... Maybe just maybe they would have cut the Pats some slack...... But 3 SB's in 7 years... Almost a 4th to cap off a perfect season.... That's unacceptable...... Oh yeah and what's with this team concept where spoiled prima donnas are not tolerated and every athlete is expected to place the team's interests ahead of their own..... What's that all about????? Yep, if only Bill had held more press conferences and smiled more, the mediots would have let him off the hook....

If anyone needs to be taken to task its the media.... We need to start holding them accountable for their irresponsible reporting. A decrease in readership, a fall in ratings is a good start.

 

[RayClay]

I was listening to Felger, Capers is the first big coach , that is from the so called non tree.. Do you start to wonder if this was his move, or a move initiated by Robert Kraft to have a plan in case Belichick has to miss some time because of this spygate nonsense.?? Again Felger is suspecting that not me...But its food for thought

Wrong thread. That has been proposed in the Capers thread.

Just to keep on track, I say a coach with better interpersonal relations skates with a small fine and loses a 4th, maybe.

Then its dropped. Remember, we're not even the defending champ, we last won in 2004. I don't see the Colts, Steelers and Giants putting up with this crap.

 

[OhExaulted1]

I have never seen a team and a coach held in such contempt by the media (which is practically everywhere these days).

Red Auerbach was hated at least since '61 when I started following the Celtics, but he handled the press. He always had something funny or controversial to say.

He handled the press and maintained a psychological edge over other teams and owners.

The Celtics never had to fight all the media and the league in addition to other teams.

The Patriots looked mentally fatigued in the Super Bowl (coaching too).

Did having to fight the idiot press every day have something to do with it?

It didn't help.

They won 18 games in a row and lost the lead in the SB with 35 seconds left. The negative media was an ispiration when we blew teams out 52-7 and 56-10, now it was our downfall in a tight game we could have won?

BB doesn't need charm school. He and this team feeds off the negativity. This team needs a chip on their shoulder and now they've got one.

As a fan I am totally looking forward to next season. We will never have a Patriots team as good as they are now (and have been).

This is a Golden Age, even with a media un-savvy coach like Belichick.

Quit complaining and enjoy it.

 

[Sean Pa Patriot]

Wrong thread. That has been proposed in the Capers thread.

Just to keep on track, I say a coach with better interpersonal relations skates with a small fine and loses a 4th, maybe.

Then its dropped. Remember, we're not even the defending champ, we last won in 2004. I don't see the Colts, Steelers and Giants putting up with this crap.

Well maybee Kraft is quietly getting a little upset with the negative way the team is being betrayed, so this could be in this thread.. I do think Belichick is a little gruff, but so was Vince Lombardi..

 

[OhExaulted1]

It is a simple problem, unless you're stupid or have no personality.

BB is certainly smart, funny and interesting.

Hell, if he made a PBJ sandwich instead of those monotone, nothing revealed press conferences he'd get a laugh for the day.

It's not rocket science, a million media members have to file a story every day. If you don't give them anything and glare at them like they're subhuman, what do you expect them to print?

I'm not sure how it's a "problem".

Should he just gush at the opportunity to talk to Felger, Tomase and Borges?

Are you calling Belichick "stupid", because we know he has no personality (at least towards the media).

 

[Sean Pa Patriot]

I think Belichick and Mangini have a better chance of being friends again, rather than Belichick every giving a sit down interview with John Tomase..

 

[RayClay]

I think Belichick and Mangini have a better chance of being friends again, rather than Belichick every giving a sit down interview with John Tomase..

It has it's limits, but the blob of goo will be at the press conferences anyway.

Why not throw them a little entertainment bone. It really is part of the job and the major concern Kraft had when he hired BB, from what i understand.