Jim Kelly jealous???

[DropKick Flutie]

The difference between Jim Kelly and Bill Belichick isn't charity work. They both do that, although apparently Kelly enjoys getting the credit more than Bill.

His son Hunter suffered with an illness since the day he was born. He died at age 8. Imagine going through something like that before you pass judgment on the man.

 

[upstater1]

His son Hunter suffered with an illness since the day he was born. He died at age 8. Imagine going through something like that before you pass judgment on the man.

Well aren't you the hypocrite. You passed judgement on Belichick in your previous post, and you don't know the man. You also mentioned Kelly's charity work. Belichick does a lot of it as well. Furthermore, what has Belichick ever said that makes you think he's conceited?

 

[tobias funke]

His son Hunter suffered with an illness since the day he was born. He died at age 8. Imagine going through something like that before you pass judgment on the man.

This illustrates how incredibly well you missed the point. I'm not passing judgement, I'm pointing out a fact. We do not all do what you do with information.

 

[FirstAndGoal]

This coming from Kelly? Kelly has a reputaion of snubbing current players and personnel all of the time. He hangs out at the games and snubs people constantly from what I hear.

 

[DropKick Flutie]

Well aren't you the hypocrite. You passed judgement on Belichick in your previous post, and you don't know the man. You also mentioned Kelly's charity work. Belichick does a lot of it as well. Furthermore, what has Belichick ever said that makes you think he's conceited?

How did I pass judgment, when all I said was "most people think he is a conceited, pretentious jerk with a "F the world" attitude." That's not what I think... I don't have that high an opinion of him. I said other people think he is conceited ... like most national sports talk radio hosts (Rome and Cowherd especially).

This illustrates how incredibly well you missed the point. I'm not passing judgement, I'm pointing out a fact. We do not all do what you do with information.

"The difference between Jim Kelly and Bill Belichick isn't charity work. They both do that, although apparently Kelly enjoys getting the credit more than Bill.
The difference is that obviously Belichick doesn't care about being liked as much as Jim Kelly does."


You say a lot here... none of it fact. Unless you know exactly how much Jim cares or exactly how much he enjoys getting credit.

 

[IcyPatriot]

The perception of BB from afar is astonishing, he probably could use a good PR firm about now.. the reality is that BB hardly ever talks, maybe he means his lack of talking turned me against him.

This whole thing is approaching mondo bizarro, quickly.

He's getting his butt kicked for the perceptions the media has created ... utterly amazing really. Belichick is as down to earth as a coach can get ... don't they see that?

 

[tobias funke]

Unless you know exactly how much Jim cares or exactly how much he enjoys getting credit.

That's true, I guess twisting a softball 'who did you root for in the SB?' question into an 'I hate Bill Belichick and not because of spygate' rant doesn't reveal anything about the inner workings of Jim Kelly.

 

[PatsFanJess]

The difference between Jim Kelly and Bill Belichick isn't charity work. They both do that, although apparently Kelly enjoys getting the credit more than Bill.

The difference is that obviously Belichick doesn't care about being liked as much as Jim Kelly does.

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Bingo! Bill doesnt give a rats a** what people think about him! He shouldn't! We love him and thats really all that matters.

 

[Bella*chick]

Oh, please. And Jim Kelly isn't conceited? I remember him from back in his playing days. Give me a break.

 

[DropKick Flutie]

That's true, I guess twisting a softball 'who did you root for in the SB?' question into an 'I hate Bill Belichick and not because of spygate' rant doesn't reveal anything about the inner workings of Jim Kelly.

Great job changing the subject. I'm sure no one will notice.

 

[tobias funke]

I'm not changing the subject. His answer to that question ("well I personally don't like Bill Belichick and I want the national media to know this") was as egostistical as it gets.

Don't blame me because you're too dense to follow.

 

[DropKick Flutie]

You said

The difference between Jim Kelly and Bill Belichick isn't charity work. They both do that, although apparently Kelly enjoys getting the credit more than Bill.

The difference is that obviously Belichick doesn't care about being liked as much as Jim Kelly does.

Than I said

His son Hunter suffered with an illness since the day he was born. He died at age 8. Imagine going through something like that before you pass judgment on the man.

Than you said

This illustrates how incredibly well you missed the point. I'm not passing judgement, I'm pointing out a fact. We do not all do what you do with information.

Than I said

You say a lot here... none of it fact. Unless you know exactly how much Jim cares or exactly how much he enjoys getting credit.

Than you said, changing the subject

That's true, I guess twisting a softball 'who did you root for in the SB?' question into an 'I hate Bill Belichick and not because of spygate' rant doesn't reveal anything about the inner workings of Jim Kelly.

Maybe it's past your bedtime, so I'll forgive you for calling me dense. We were talking about his charity work, remember?

 

[tobias funke]

Anytime someone starts doing this quoteboy **** I stop reading their posts. Did he bring up Jim Kelly's dead son again?

 

[DropKick Flutie]

Anytime someone starts doing this quoteboy **** I stop reading their posts. Did he bring up Jim Kelly's dead son again?

First class, buddy.

 

[kolbitr]

First class, buddy.

Look, enough is enough.

I liked watching the Bills back in their years of dominance, and I always liked watching Jim Kelly play, since he was with the Gamblers. That was a cool team. I hoped against hope for the Bills to win a Super Bowl, even though I had no real connection with Buffalo in any way. I just enjoyed that team, from afar.

But the public furor over Belichick has reached idiocy levels. Far too many people who have contributed nothing to the world aside from their opinions and verbal farts are judging a man who they do not know, and do not understand.

Have you read Education of a Coach? If you had, you would know something about his nearly single-minded devotion to the sport, and about his incredibly touching devotion to his Dad, a salty Naval Academy football lifer, who loved the college game, his family, and the Academy, possibly in that order.

And if you had been exposed to more of the immense praise from men such as Bill Russell and Jim Brown, you would know something also about the man's pride, and the respect he commands from people who respect intelligence, toughness, and winning, and who hate phonies, fakers, and bullsh*tters.

I'm not saying he's a great man, or that he's not flawed, and that he hasn't made mistakes (plenty of them). He's arrogant, and can be rude, and is clearly a bit of a monomaniac. But he is far more interesting, and complex, and caring than the general public thinks, and it is a shame that no one is listening for those stories instead.

 

[PF1996]

I highly doubt Jim Kelly is jealous. I think the he just doesn't like BB as a person. I know this will come as a shock to most Pats fans, but outside of Boston, BB isn't very well liked. Most people think he is a conceited, pretentious jerk with a "F the world" attitude. Kelly does a lot of charity work, sets up golf tourneys and charity organizations all over NY and Pennsylvania. Brady and Seau (as the article mentions)I know for a fact have both been in Buffalo to support Jim's charity events. Maybe BB said "no" to Jim and rubbed him the wrong way... who knows. But I don't think it has to do with jealousy.

Really? Well, Kelly's remarks make him sound like somone with self-esteem and perception issues so jealousy certainly isn't out of the question. Only an incredibly insecure or egotistical person could perceive BB as "thinking he's better than others" from BB's public persona which according to Kelly is the basis for his opinion. The majority of the sports "media" dislikes BB because they are shallow, attention seeking morons who don't like the fact that BB doesn't pretend that they are relevant to him. Parcells is incredibly RUDE to the media but he's not hated because he gives them attention grabbing quotes. BB refuses to play the media game so they call him, a guy who dresses to be comfortable, rarely belittles his opponents and doesn't try to manipulate his media image, "conceited and pretentious" and idiots like you lap it up.


Lastly, it's ironic that you claim that someone tried to change the subject after your pathetic attempt to change the subject by mentioning Kelly's dead son. Suffering a death doesn't make anyone exempt from being criticized for expressing a shallow, illogical opinion.

 

[newton_tom_cat]

reality is he's probably less hostile to BB than most football people, including many in our local media. it's fair to say outside of NE fans most like the Manning's versus Kraft and BB. I think it BB's lack of media "likability" is what may have cost him and us more than anything. It's a sad testimony to our times that the league's best coach has to be a suck-***** to the media. Did Lombardi, Knoll, Landry have great media personalities? NO! difference is they coached during a time that didn't have an over abundance of media looking to start sh$t 24/7.

 

[sanvara]

Jim Kelly was helped by a Thruman Thomas

Aikman never had great stats, although he was a very accurate QB, but was not healthy all the time

Young, I thought was never good, the system made him... He won one SB, great,but he was not as great as people made him out to be..

No one says Young was better than Montana. I don't see Young as overrated at all. He has the highest QB rating of all time and is definitely upper echelon.

 

[HSanders]

Joe Namath and Bob Griese (HOF...both of them LOLOLOLOL) are the most overrated QBs of all time in my book.

Maybe midway through the season someone mentioned to Kelly the piece I read awhile back... can't remember where... in which it implies that BB didn't think Kelly was skilled at reading defenses.

 

[PatriotsReign]

Anytime someone starts doing this quoteboy **** I stop reading their posts. Did he bring up Jim Kelly's dead son again?

Jim Kelly's dead son has nothing to do with anything and can't be included in any debate...talk about changing the subject just to get a point for sympathy!

I guess he doesn't understand the point that the only reason Kelly said the things quoted in the opening of this thread was to anounce to the world his dislike for BB...just like you said. That is a fact, not an opinion when you consider the fact BB never did or said anything that could have changed Kelly's opinion of Belichik.

And then when he added..."things we don't talk about", it was clear at that point he was outright lying...Jim Kelly is a liar.