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An interesting 1999 article about videotaping in NFL stadiums


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http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9802E4D91631F933A25752C0A96F958260

It's late - I just skimmed this - but there's some interesting things there... its from well before the Patriots SB era. It notes that there's no NFL rule against taping practices - but there's some other interesting tidbits there as well

Maybe none of this is relevant but I thought I'd share.. at the very least it details the amount of video surveilance in NFL stadiums.
 
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Thanks joe, good article I think we should forward that to some editors and congressman...
 
BB was with the Jets at the time, as stated in the link
 
The NFL needs this to go away real bad ...

On another note ... if I were Belichick I would demand that our pick
be returned to us or he will sing. The time for Belichick to play the tough
hand is now ... a few leaks to the media or return our pick ... it is what it is.
 
No rules about taping your OWN practices.
 
The NFL needs this to go away real bad ...

On another note ... if I were Belichick I would demand that our pick
be returned to us or he will sing. The time for Belichick to play the tough
hand is now ... a few leaks to the media or return our pick ... it is what it is.
LOL. You have got to be kidding! No way does Belichick ask for that. He wants this to go away as does the NFL. You think it goes away if Belichick does what you want? Get ready for congressional hearings more likely.

pao
 
No rules about taping your OWN practices.

Yep teams do this nearly every practice especially in TC, I heard years ago teams used to request a copies of them also, they got sent the out of focus version.
 
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So when does Florio send me a commission check? This is about the 5th time he's benefitted from my research.

I didn't send this to him, someone else did, but hopefully he takes the time to read the Lee Grosscup article documenting spying practices 40 years ago and more that I DID send to him. Others should bring that to his attention too.

The only way to make this go away is to make it perfectly clear that the Pats are being used as a scapegoat when every other team for the last 50 years has done the same thing.

http://www.thesportgallery.com/sport-stories/1967aug-nflspy.html

POSTED 3:41 p.m. EST, February 16, 2008

SPYING AN INTERNAL THING, TOO

As the heat continues to rise regarding Spygate II, a reader has forwarded to us a link to a 1999 item from Mike Freeman, then of the New York Times and currently with CBSSports.com, regarding the possibility that the New York Jets (for whom Pats coach Bill Belichick worked at the time), might have been secretly videotaping . . . their own players . . . in the locker room.

The issue came up because an unnamed Jets defensive player entered a small room at the team's practice facility, which contained a bank of video screens. Some of the monitors included images of the locker room.

"A lot of things around here have knocked me for a loop, but this is one of the biggest,'' said the player. ''My first thought was, 'Has the team been spying on us?'''

In Freeman's article, NFLPA Executive Director Gene Upshaw said that he believes 25 percent of the league's teams use hidden cameras in the locker room.

But Upshaw didn't seem to be all that bothered by it.

"When I'm in Denver, in a meeting with the players at the Broncos' facility, you see certain things in the room and know they're not lights," Upshaw said. "I know management is listening. When I'm in Cincinnati, I know Owner Mike Brown is listening. I don't want to say how I know, but I know. But when it comes to this issue of cameras around the players, it's not a big deal to me, because they are there for the security of our players, and obviously the safety of the players is a primary concern for me. I'd rather err on the side of caution, than have some nut come into the locker room and do something.''

But, Gene, are hidden cameras that no one knows about really going to deter a "nut" from doing anything?

Art Modell, who owned the Ravens at the time, confirmed Upshaw's beliefs: ''Some teams are using surveillance equipment in the locker room, yes. But I'd fire the first guy who did that here. No video cameras, no audiotapes, no eavesdropping.''

''This is a sensitive issue,'' Upshaw said. ''I'm sure it will be talked about a lot in the future.''

It hasn't been. But given the current focus on things the Patriots did or didn't do, let's not forget that there are 31 other NFL franchises that might be doing plenty of things that they shouldn't be doing, and that they merely haven't gotten caught.

The only thing I'd add to Florio's mentioning of Belichick being an assistant on that team is the fact that if Belichick is culpable by being an assistant to Parcells when this was going on, why isn't MangIdiot culpable in the allegations revolving around Spygate?

And does it really take a rocket scientist to ask the NEXT question? That if Parcells was videotaping his OWN team, he'd not have cameras and mics in the VISITING LOCKER ROOM?

Again - is there a rule about this? The article says there isn't.
 
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I didn't send this to him, someone else did, but hopefully he takes the time to read the Lee Grosscup article documenting spying practices 40 years ago and more that I DID send to him.

*cough* *cough*

Wasn't me...



(I sent him the Grosscup article too)


(And this is probably time #3,823 that Florio has posted a story about an article I sent him -- and other PatsFans probably sent him -- the last was the 2002 NYT article on the telescope)
 
The NFL needs this to go away real bad ...

On another note ... if I were Belichick I would demand that our pick
be returned to us or he will sing. The time for Belichick to play the tough
hand is now ... a few leaks to the media or return our pick ... it is what it is.

On principle, I'd be inclined to agree with you, except that there is no way that Goodell could grant that. He already has people beating down his door because they don't think that he punished the Pats harshly enough- it would only intensify, and probably pass the tipping point, if he gave the first rounder back.
 
Someone might want to post this on a Dolphins message board so they know that their new President and GM is about to be implicated in his own spy scandal before they make more overly righteous posts about "cheating" in the NFL
 
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