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Two interesting items on PFT - sorry if this has been posted already but I didn't see it.

POSTED 10:47 p.m. EST, February 9, 2008

WALSH WON'T TALK

Little more than a week after his initial comments sent shock waves throughout the NFL, former Patriots video employee Matt Walsh is suddenly saying nothing.

Hounded by an NFL media corps that coincidentally in spending the week in the distant state where Walsh now resides, the man who might (or might not) have used a camera at the Rams' final walk-through practice before Super Bowl XXXVI is telling the press little more than "Aloha."

Recently, Walsh answered a string of questions from an Associated Press reporter by declining to answer them. Politely, but definitively.

The inescapable conclusion? Walsh has a lawyer, and Walsh is listening to his lawyer.

Still, if the NFL is going to indemnify Walsh against any potential liability that might apply to potential violations of his confidentiality agreement with the Pats, Walsh eventually needs to tell his story to a camera, for all to hear. Whatever he knows, or whatever he thinks he knows, needs to be known by anyone who wants to know it.

POSTED 11:38 a.m. EST, February 8, 2008

COULD SPYGATE II SNARE A TUNA?

Our own MDS (yeah, AOL, we're claiming him) makes an astute observation regarding the still-unfolding drama known in these parts as Spygate II.

If (and we know that's a big "if") it's ultimately proven that the Pats spied on the Rams' final walk-through practice prior to Super Bowl XXXVI, who besides New England coach Bill Belichick will have both legs knee deep in doo-doo?

As MDS points out, Jets coach Eric Mangini, Browns coach Romeo Crennel, and Raiders defensive coordinator Rob Ryan were all on Belichick's staff at the time (and they worked for the Patriots, too -- man, we can never get enough of that adolescent humor). To the extent that the Pats were using knowledge of plays that the Rams would run from specific formations, those three defensive coaches might have known something about it.

But let's take this a step farther. As the rumor in NFL circles goes (and it's only a rumor), Belichick warned NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell last year that if the Spygate issue ever comes up again Belichick will tell all that he knows about cheating in pro football. Even if that rumor isn't true, it's hard to imagine that any cheating (if it's happening) started in New England at the beginning of the current decade.

If he did it, Belichick likely learned it from someone else. And one of those potential someones is now the V.P. of football operations in Miami.

Belichick was Bill Parcells' defensive coordinator for two Super Bowl wins with the Giants, and later worked for him again with the Jets. Ironically, Belichick was the Steve Spagnuolo 17 years ago of a Giants team that somehow topped an AFC East team with a high-octane offense.

Look, we're not saying what will, would, or should happen here. But if Belichick gets called to the principal's office again, this time he might sing (if, of course, he has anything to sing about -- or, as the more fastidious in the crowd would say, about which to sing). And if/when he does, we can't only look at the guys who worked for him; we also need to look at the guys for whom he once worked.
 
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Re: Walsh won't talk - and a rumor that BB would "sing" if pushed on Spygate

Umm . . . they'll also need to look at all the other folks who had their hands in the cookie jar, too.

But I agree on one point--I think BB took a hit for the good of the team on the first one. If it goes much further, though, all bets are off.
 
Re: Walsh won't talk - and a rumor that BB would "sing" if pushed on Spygate

i getting tired of florio's act.
 
Re: Walsh won't talk - and a rumor that BB would "sing" if pushed on Spygate

I hoping he sings "Message in a Bottle".

that song makes me fun.
 
Re: Walsh won't talk - and a rumor that BB would "sing" if pushed on Spygate

I wish I feeling funner.
 
Re: Walsh won't talk - and a rumor that BB would "sing" if pushed on Spygate

More crap from the Moralizer's website. Pay it no mind, he's a liar....and a moron.
 
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Hmm let's see, walsh wont talk? Maybe cuz he's got NOTHING TO SAY...but no florio plays the domino effect and concludes that bill parcells is in on this and crennel will get in trouble. ok so who did parcells work for?...and who did they work for..and who did they work for...and so on and so on til you've connected every single person in the nfl. GFY FLORIO
 
Re: Walsh won't talk - and a rumor that BB would "sing" if pushed on Spygate

Hmm let's see, walsh wont talk? Maybe cuz he's got NOTHING TO SAY...but no florio plays the domino effect and concludes that bill parcells is in on this and crennel will get in trouble. ok so who did parcells work for?...and who did they work for..and who did they work for...and so on and so on til you've connected every single person in the nfl. GFY FLORIO

He won't talk to anyone who won't be able to grant him immunity, that's why he has nothing to say, atleast not to the mediots. Walsh and his attorney are smart. Unlike what's her name's first mouth piece in Florida.
 
Re: Walsh won't talk - and a rumor that BB would "sing" if pushed on Spygate

He won't talk to anyone who won't be able to grant him immunity, that's why he has nothing to say, atleast not to the mediots. Walsh and his attorney are smart. Unlike what's her name's first mouth piece in Florida.

Ok, but if the NFL does indemnify him and he still wont talk what would be the story then? He did hint that if someone covers his legal finances he'd have something to say. I just hate the way Florio assumes he has a story to tell and then continues to speculate all who it would incriminate when point blank there may not even be a story, and on top of that Walsh's credibility may be seriously void.
 
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My guess is Goodell wants this to go away, in his rush to judgement, he realized that there is and has been one upsmanship strategies pretty much across the NFL.. in his quest to preserve the integrity of the game, he would have to involve many others and that would cast a major shadow on the NFL.
 
Re: Walsh won't talk - and a rumor that BB would "sing" if pushed on Spygate

Sports now has it's "Tawana Brawley" case.
 
Re: Walsh won't talk - and a rumor that BB would "sing" if pushed on Spygate

Your "source" is Mike Florio? :rofl: He's got less credibility than Doughboy Tomase and that's hard to do.
Walsh won't talk to the media because he'll look like a fool. Classic case of someone running their mouth to call attention to themselves only to have it blow up on them when they can't back up what they've been bloviating about. All the lawyering up in the world can't save Walsh. Just remember the words of Michael Holley on this issue. Belichick won't even face a fine when all is said and done with this clown.
Bill Belichick will never turn snitch on other coaches. NEVER!!
 
Re: Walsh won't talk - and a rumor that BB would "sing" if pushed on Spygate

Two interesting items on PFT - sorry if this has been posted already but I didn't see it.

that's actually an interesting nuance. no wonder BB was burning mad at Manboobs.
 
Re: Walsh won't talk - and a rumor that BB would "sing" if pushed on Spygate

He won't talk to anyone who won't be able to grant him immunity, that's why he has nothing to say, atleast not to the mediots. Walsh and his attorney are smart. Unlike what's her name's first mouth piece in Florida.


EXACTLY. Which is why I have edited the title of this thread (added - "to the PRESS").

People should not jump to conclusions that he will not spew to Specter just because Walsh isn't spilling the beans this week to some AP reporter.
 
Re: Walsh won't talk (to the PRESS) and a rumor that BB would "sing" if pushed on Spy

He wants to be the "Linda Tripp" of spygate
 
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If I am BB and they suspend or fine me again for spygate again, then I say to myself if i'm going down i am going down in a blaze of glory and im taking as many of you hypocrites(coaches) with me.
 
Re: Walsh won't talk (to the PRESS) and a rumor that BB would "sing" if pushed on Spy

hmm...LOL...

so are the giants two SB victories with BB as D coordinator tainted? OMG


ppl just cant accept it can they? cheating goes on in the nfl...mangini was a crybaby that was pissed off at his former mentor, and so he let the media know what the NFL and Roger and anyone else in the NFL knows....that cheating goes on....(if you call videotaping from an illegal position cheating of course)

morons just wont let this die....i must admit however, it would be very funny to see if BB has proof of other teams and head coaches cheating in all manner of ways....would defenetely shut up the rest of the many stupid fans calling us out
 
Re: Walsh won't talk (to the PRESS) and a rumor that BB would "sing" if pushed on Spy

You can bank on it and Goodell already knows the teams because the Pats gave him the tapes.
 
Re: Walsh won't talk (to the PRESS) and a rumor that BB would "sing" if pushed on Spy

I just have a general question about Florio because I never really read his website or even looked at it until the Moss on the bubble stuff came up. Has he ever been right about any of his "rumors"? I'm honestly curious.
 
Re: Walsh won't talk (to the PRESS) and a rumor that BB would "sing" if pushed on Spy

I don't know about the Walsh story (personally I think he's a loser looking for his 15 minutes of fame and has nothing to say that he can prove).

But as for the Belichick story: Well, duh!

Maybe it's that I've lived and worked in the most cynical city in the world for nearly 20 years, but I have assumed all along that Goodell burned the tapes, rejected passionate pleas for BB's suspension and buried the story because Belichick let him know that he had the goods. I actually went so far as to think that he might just have included tapes from his Giants and Jets days in the package he sent the commish.

And, as for hardball, you ain't seen nothin' yet.

I was surprised that Bob Kraft's very negative comments about the CBA last week did not receive a lot more media attention. I guess they got lost in the Super Bowl hype and story. I actually thought they were a shot across Goodell's bow in the wake of the Specter and Walsh nonsense and was amazed that none of our quick thinking local reporters picked up on it. The last CBA allows either players or owners to opt out either in or after the 2008 season (not sure which exactly). Those of you who followed the most recent CBA negotiations know that there would have been no CBA, but a strike, if Jonathan Kraft, operating on behalf of his dad and Jerry Jones, had not brokered a deal with other big market owners who were tired of subsidizing the Colts and Jaguars and getting their teeth kicked in by them on Sunday.

If Kraft pulls the plug, there is no CBA and Roger Goodell will have a true mess on his hands, not to mention a strike.
 
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