I'm sorry, but I think Harrison has to go

[newton_tom_cat]

I had my doubts about him. But during the season I gave him a pass because he remained an effective blitzer. But last night he just looked slow, old and, dare I say, not too strong.

Consider he was on the wrong side of Giants 3 most important offensive plays:

- 45 yard toss to Boss. Harrison was slower than this 260 lb TE;
- "the catch" where even though he got a direct hit on the ball he couldn't dislodge it from between the receivers hand and helmet;
- the all out blitz on the TD to Plax, Harrison was stopped at the line by a Giants RB.

Rubbing guys into the ground after the play is over just looks stupid now. He reminds me of a Raider. In fact maybe we can work out a trade with them.

What do you think?

 

[MRBLAZE]

Come on. This is getting unbelievably stupid.

At this rate, Brady will need to go too.

 

[newton_tom_cat]

Come on. This is getting unbelievably stupid.

At this rate, Brady will need to go too.

no way man. brady whipped the 2nd to last pass 75 yards. that guy is anything but weak. and he's certainly not old. and he never was fast.

 

[marionbutts1995]

watching the replay of "the catch" harrison unknowingly helped that play happen. The ball wouldve hit the ground had Harrison's knees not been underneath Tyrees back. Tyree ended up bending instead of hitting the turf which wouldve made the ball hit the ground. not blaming harrison as he was trying to make a play, but just a bad break.

 

[Rocky]

I don't know that he needs to go, but he probably needs to see a somewhat reduced role. He does look slow out there at times.

 

[Truck]

It would be nice for Merriweather to step up into the starting role next year and move Harrison into a part time role. But for that to happen, Merriweather needs to improve greatly; including learning how to catch a ball.

 

[blackglass3]

I had my doubts about him. But during the season I gave him a pass because he remained an effective blitzer. But last night he just looked slow, old and, dare I say, not too strong.

Consider he was on the wrong side of Giants 3 most important offensive plays:

- 45 yard toss to Boss. Harrison was slower than this 260 lb TE;
- "the catch" where even though he got a direct hit on the ball he couldn't dislodge it from between the receivers hand and helmet;
- the all out blitz on the TD to Plax, Harrison was stopped at the line by a Giants RB.

Rubbing guys into the ground after the play is over just looks stupid now. He reminds me of a Raider. In fact maybe we can work out a trade with them.

What do you think?

Beating this drum again, huh? I'll give you the Boss catch, but since it was Kevin Boss' ONLY catch, I will say Rodney and co did a pretty good job on him.

"The Catch" was exactly that, one of those miracle catches that every generation seems to get. Total flukey play from when they snapped all the way until it was over. It sucks that he got posterized on it, but he was right there. Not out of position or anything. 99% of the time that play doesn't happen. The 1% of the time is why we watch sports. To see amazing plays and underdogs fight to the top. It sucks that we weren't the underdog like we used to be, but next year we will have the Redemption theme.

 

[DonBlackmon55]

I had my doubts about him. But during the season I gave him a pass because he remained an effective blitzer. But last night he just looked slow, old and, dare I say, not too strong.

Consider he was on the wrong side of Giants 3 most important offensive plays:

- 45 yard toss to Boss. Harrison was slower than this 260 lb TE;
- "the catch" where even though he got a direct hit on the ball he couldn't dislodge it from between the receivers hand and helmet;
- the all out blitz on the TD to Plax, Harrison was stopped at the line by a Giants RB.

Rubbing guys into the ground after the play is over just looks stupid now. He reminds me of a Raider. In fact maybe we can work out a trade with them.

What do you think?

As good as Rodney has been the last few yrs, he is no longer a fulltime player. The injuries and punishemnt he has dished out for years has caught up with him

One thing that left me completely dumbfounded this year was BB reluctance to mesh the younger players in 2nd half of the season. Screw the 16-0 season, it's all about winning SB's. That means you bring youth and experience.

The load Bru, Seau, Vrabel and Rodney had to carry caught up once more in CRITICAL drive of the season.

I'm sorry, but this "Bend but not break" philosophy is not going to work with this personnel anymore. Yes, they played their hearts out for most of the season, but in the end when it mattered, they could not deliver.

Why the heck are Pierre Woods, LeKevin Smith, and others playing in the SB, yet nowhere to be seen in 56-10, 52-7 blow outs over Bills and Redskins

As much as I respect BB, his arrogance to go undeafeated was the nail in the coffin of our team. Yes, OL choked, etc etc etc.........but to let Forest Gump drive down for winning TD beat the master Defensive mind with 2:42 left in SB is downright embarassing.

Looking at Giants passrush vs Pats pass rush (lack thereof) was just ridiculous

 

[TheGodInAGreyHoodie]

Come on. This is getting unbelievably stupid.

At this rate, Brady will need to go too.

I needs to take that bum welker with him too....i always knew the guy was too short to play wr.

/sarcasm off

 

[newton_tom_cat]

Why the heck are Pierre Woods, LeKevin Smith, and others playing in the SB, yet nowhere to be seen in 56-10, 52-7 blow outs over Bills and Redskins

great question, lekevin in particular showed some talent. so why wasn't he afforded the luxury of playing time so he could develop during the season?

 

[DonBlackmon55]

great question, lekevin in particular showed some talent. so why wasn't he afforded the luxury of playing time so he could develop during the season?

ask the coach. I guess we're saving them for SB's

Same crap 2007 AFCCG with TBC playing in SD, Eric Alexander playing in Indy

Honestly, this is ******ed philosophy to keep trusting the aging D players will continue to deliver time and time again, yet you never really develop younger players.

whatever, eh.

 

[MrBigglesWorth]

As good as Rodney has been the last few yrs, he is no longer a fulltime player. The injuries and punishemnt he has dished out for years has caught up with him

One thing that left me completely dumbfounded this year was BB reluctance to mesh the younger players in 2nd half of the season. Screw the 16-0 season, it's all about winning SB's. That means you bring youth and experience.

The load Bru, Seau, Vrabel and Rodney had to carry caught up once more in CRITICAL drive of the season.

I'm sorry, but this "Bend but not break" philosophy is not going to work with this personnel anymore. Yes, they played their hearts out for most of the season, but in the end when it mattered, they could not deliver.

Why the heck are Pierre Woods, LeKevin Smith, and others playing in the SB, yet nowhere to be seen in 56-10, 52-7 blow outs over Bills and Redskins

As much as I respect BB, his arrogance to go undeafeated was the nail in the coffin of our team. Yes, OL choked, etc etc etc.........but to let Forest Gump drive down for winning TD beat the master Defensive mind with 2:42 left in SB is downright embarassing.

Looking at Giants passrush vs Pats pass rush (lack thereof) was just ridiculous

This is a great point. There was certainly tons of garbage time to see what young players had to offer. I hope Woods gets a shot next yr

 

[pats63]

I love Rodney...He had a big work load last night...The catch was it luck or good catch...it doesn't matter...We lost,but we will be back...We have the offseason and the draft....I know Rodney can't play forever,but he played his heart out...

 

[ATippett56]

ask the coach. I guess we're saving them for SB's

Same crap 2007 AFCCG with TBC playing in SD, Eric Alexander playing in Indy

Honestly, this is ******ed philosophy to keep trusting the aging D players will continue to deliver time and time again, yet you never really develop younger players.

whatever, eh.

I agree wholeheartedly! The reluctance to select linebackers in the draft by Belichick has me completely dumbfounded. The defensive back eight needs a tremendous influx of youth since I honestly believe even Vrabel had a career year in 2007.

 

[DonBlackmon55]

I agree wholeheartedly! The reluctance to select linebackers in the draft by Belichick has me completely dumbfounded. The defensive back eight needs a tremendous influx of youth since I honestly believe even Vrabel had a career year in 2007.

After losing AFCCG and SB in consecutive years with the D unable to hold the last series of the game does not make it clear to him and Pioli, then they ought to leave their genius tags at home.

Slow, giant DL and LB and behind them smurf DB who can't play press.

This formula = two straight choke jobs

 

[karran_s]

Sorry guys... I think it is unfair to single any one player on the loss..

We had plenty of opportunities to even the game.. One glaring example was the 48 yard field goal.. Come on.. you're in a dome, in a low scoring game with the defense allowing barely a yard or none on 1st down and you decide to go for it on 4th and 13 ??? I can understand 4th and 2 or maybe even 4th and 5 or 6, but this was just plain stupid...

The game, even with the miracle catch, would have been tied at the end of regulation ....

There were so many chances, all muffed... Boy, I'm pissed... really pissed. I saw the Giants game in the stadium at NY. In that game, although we were down by 12, there was never any doubt in my mind that we would make it..

I think the chief culprit is our O line and the inability to give TB just a little more time to throw his passes....

 

[sebman2112]

He's still a good player, and doesn't need to go. I do think NE needs to draft another Safety with good coverage ability though, as I don't think Rodney's as good in coverage as he once was, and Sanders while improved can have his problems in that area of the game as well. Going into 2008 Meriweather's really the only strong coverage Safety on the roster.

 

[LurkingLinebacker]

Convert Rodney into a linebacker.... not like he's unfamiliar with blitzing.

Or am I crazy and asinine on this one?

 

[Rob0729]

I think Rodney has lost a step and clearly isn't the player he once was, but he still has value to the team. I would like to see them use him in a rotation more so he isn't on the field as much. He has been a liability in coverage a bit this year. I think if they can reduce his workload like they have with other aging players, they can get one or two more years out of him.

I would love to see the Pats get Ty Law and move him to FS which is something he talked about doing several years ago as he got to about this age and have a Rod Woodson resurrection to Pro Bowl status at another position. That way they can rotate Law, Sanders, Meriweather, and Rodney. Probably a bit of a pipe dream though/

 

[DonBlackmon55]

Convert Rodney into a linebacker.... not like he's unfamiliar with blitzing.

Or am I crazy and asinine on this one?

ummm....how many brews did you pound last night ? A 225lb LB in pats system gets destroyed.