Giants first in sacks with 53

[Keegs]

Osi UmenTurda had 6 in one game i believe.

 

[BB_dynasty]

I know that the pats are in second, but the media doesn't make a big deal out of it because they want to hype up the giants. Honeslty, if you aren't a patriots fan or giants fan, you probably would just assume the pats are going to destroy the giants. This way they can generate more viewers by making it look like the giants are better than they really are.

The talking heads of the media may not look like it, but they know what they are doing.

 

[Watson's IQ]

Osi UmenTurda had 6 in one game i believe.

Is this what we've landed on? I didn't know if we'd made it official yet.

 

[Keegs]

Is this what we've landed on? I didn't know if we'd made it official yet.

i just typed it then.... first time i've called him that.


From what i've read and heard lately, he'd be a big fan of that name.

 

[Watson's IQ]

i just typed it then.... first time i've called him that.


From what i've read and heard lately, he'd be a big fan of that name.

Oh, I know what you're talking about, I just didn't know if we'd really come up with an official nickname yet which fits his particular tastes.

 

[Oswlek]

No, it isn't at all. In a lot of ways, our pass rush is a lot better. They are consistently rushing the same guys, while are pressure packages are much more varied (as evidenced by the distribution of the sacks).

People harp on the Giants pash rush because it's the one perceived "advantage" for that team, but I'm not even sure it is one.

No way. The Giants pass rush is much, much better than NE's. Even look at the last NE game; despite getting only one sack (with one negated by a penalty) they harassed Tommy all night, knocking him down some 8-9 times.

NE's pass rush is more front-runner than anything else. They are very inconsistent throughout the game, but accumulate some sacks when the game is starting to get out of hand and the other team is forced to pass on every down.

The Giants' pass rush is for real.

 

[Marko]

I like Osi UrineTurda. The Giants had twelve sacks against an Eagles BACKUP not starter they abused him all night long. They averaged one sack a game in the playoffs and gave up 2 a game.

 

[Metaphors]

No way. The Giants pass rush is much, much better than NE's. Even look at the last NE game; despite getting only one sack (with one negated by a penalty) they harassed Tommy all night, knocking him down some 8-9 times.

NE's pass rush is more front-runner than anything else. They are very inconsistent throughout the game, but accumulate some sacks when the game is starting to get out of hand and the other team is forced to pass on every down.

The Giants' pass rush is for real.

Last time I looked, I don't think they line up an unsuspecting QB and have both defenses compete against each other to see how many sacks they can get. BTW, if that becomes a reality show, I want royalties.

The Giants don't have to pressure some average or abstract team...they have to do it against the Pats. This is important because the Giants are faced with a difficult choice. Rush 4 and hope your coverage can hold up for 4-5 seconds. Blitz, play man press and hope Brady is off target or Welker/Faulk/Watson have the butterfingers. I'm inclined to think you will see a 50-50 mix of both. In the last meeting, Torbor was the real pain in the arse, not the lawfirm of Gappy, Osi and Tuck.

I think the Pats will give Eli every chance to self-destruct on his own without bringing the house to force it. Key the run, get the Giants in predictable down-distance situations and just rush 4 (maybe even 3). As the pressure builds, Eli will be Eli and all will be right with the world.

 

[BradyFTW!]

....anyone know who's second.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/statistics?stat=teammisc&pos=off&league=nfl&year=2007&season=2

Weird that know one eludes to that.

Someone tell Jets fans that they have the most tackles in the league. Not exactly a good thing, but they'll take whatever they can get I'm sure.

 

[Giants6timeworldchamps]

Osi UmenTurda had 6 in one game i believe.

I don't think those should count. Now both teams have 47... but while we're at it. The Giants had 6 other sacks in that game... ok take those out too. There you go... the Pats now lead the league in Sacks...
Now about that great Pats rush, Can you believe no one talks about it? They must not do anything right. I don't think ESPN, FOX, or any other channel should focus on both teams. Just the Pats. They're 18-0. They're such an underdog. Who cares what these people say. When the game is on... whatever happens... will happen. Nothing ever goes like we think. Hey lightning may strike and God Forbid... but the Giants may get some of the "bounces" everyone talks about.

 

[Giants6timeworldchamps]

Someone tell Jets fans that they have the most tackles in the league. Not exactly a good thing, but they'll take whatever they can get I'm sure.

Someone tell Jets fans that this Super Bowl is their worst nightmere. A no win situation. God this is great!

 

[FrontSeven]

Our give/take ratio is +16.

Giants are a -9

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Hmm, me think that Giants in big trouble - Little Big Horn trouble - if they turn ball over early, Kemosabe.

 

[Oswlek]

Last time I looked, I don't think they line up an unsuspecting QB and have both defenses compete against each other to see how many sacks they can get. BTW, if that becomes a reality show, I want royalties.

The Giants don't have to pressure some average or abstract team...they have to do it against the Pats. This is important because the Giants are faced with a difficult choice. Rush 4 and hope your coverage can hold up for 4-5 seconds. Blitz, play man press and hope Brady is off target or Welker/Faulk/Watson have the butterfingers. I'm inclined to think you will see a 50-50 mix of both. In the last meeting, Torbor was the real pain in the arse, not the lawfirm of Gappy, Osi and Tuck.

I think the Pats will give Eli every chance to self-destruct on his own without bringing the house to force it. Key the run, get the Giants in predictable down-distance situations and just rush 4 (maybe even 3). As the pressure builds, Eli will be Eli and all will be right with the world.

When did I say that NE was some average or abstract team? The Giants took it to NE on the LOS last time. Sure, NE was missing some guys, but they were missing those guys in other games and they weren't beaten on the line in those the way NY did.

NY's pass rush is for real and is significantly better than NE's. There is no two ways about it.

 

[Deus Irae]

When did I say that NE was some average or abstract team? The Giants took it to NE on the LOS last time. Sure, NE was missing some guys, but they were missing those guys in other games and they weren't beaten on the line in those the way NY did.

NY's pass rush is for real and is significantly better than NE's. There is no two ways about it.

New England gets almost as much pressure with 3 players as the Giants get with 4. New England had just 6 fewer sacks in the regular season and was #2 in the league, despite frequent use of prevent style defense. New England led the league in time of possession, meaning they had less time per game to accumulate sacks. The difference in time between the two teams was just about a minute per game, and the Patriots defense faced only 933 plays from scrimmage, while the Giants faced 984.

The notion that the Giants' pass rush if significantly better than New England's has no basis in anything I can find.

 

[mossdeep]

I would bet my life Eli doesn't throw zero interceptions this game.

 

[Watson's IQ]

Someone tell Jets fans that they have the most tackles in the league. Not exactly a good thing, but they'll take whatever they can get I'm sure.

Heh, just about the last stat you want to lead the league in. Sadly, knowing the Jets fans I do, they would brag about it as if it were a good thing.

"Tackling machines"

 

[Giants6timeworldchamps]

I would bet my life Eli doesn't throw zero interceptions this game.

I bet you Brady throws more INT than Eli. Seriously.

 

[Oswlek]

New England gets almost as much pressure with 3 players as the Giants get with 4. New England had just 6 fewer sacks in the regular season and was #2 in the league, despite frequent use of prevent style defense. New England led the league in time of possession, meaning they had less time per game to accumulate sacks. The difference in time between the two teams was just about a minute per game, and the Patriots defense faced only 933 plays from scrimmage, while the Giants faced 984.

The notion that the Giants' pass rush if significantly better than New England's has no basis in anything I can find.

I don't mean any offense, but the only way one can justify this thought is by looking at the stats and having never watched either teams' games. When has NE ever gotten pressure with just 3 rushers?

NE's pass rush is the biggest weakness in their defense, forcing them repeatedly to become blitz heavy in the latter part of their close games.

 

[Watson's IQ]

I bet you Brady throws more INT than Eli. Seriously.

You're on. Seriously.

I still think you're more rational than most, but if you think the guy who led the league in interceptions is a good bet to throw fewer than the guy who went 50/8, and you're giving me even odds on that occurring, well then I feel bad for your logic-center.

 

[Deus Irae]

I don't mean any offense, but the only way one can justify this thought is by looking at the stats and having never watched either teams' games. When has NE ever gotten pressure with just 3 rushers?

NE's pass rush is the biggest weakness in their defense, forcing them repeatedly to become blitz heavy in the latter part of their close games.

I've seen all but 1 Patriots game, and I've seen about half the Giants games. As for getting pressure, you seem to be confused. However, I did type that badly, so I can see your confusion. What I meant, and what that post looks like does differ. I meant it as "New England gets almost as much pressure with 3 players on the line as the Giants get with 4". That's the difference between a 4-3 and a 3-4, but I should have been more explicit.

My apologies for my poor typing in that post. However, the Giants' pass rush is still not 'significantly better' than the Patriots' pass rush. The difference is that the Giants get more of their sacks from their D-linemen, while the Patriots get more of their sacks from the linebacker that attacks, and from the pass rushing specialist known as Jarvis Green.

Having said that, the notion that the pass rush is this defense's biggest weakness is just not accurate. This defense's biggest weakness is the pass defense of the two interior linebackers and the two safeties.