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1- you guys are having a blast... you like to make jokes and have fun rather than talking football, but that's what you get for being historic 16-0... I wish I knew the feeling... Oh and CONGRATULATION!

2- some are serious football fans but many are homers, not surprising though

3- you are pathetic for having a pathological obsession with any smallest slights on your team (real, perceived, or contrived)... you pay attention and make threads on the most insignificant things as if you don't have enough topics to talk about...

4- you don't take any team seriously anymore perhaps except the Colts, but may be that's what 16-0 get to you.

5- old news but... you should be thankful to us for taking Elway and Denver out for your 2nd SB appearance. Ya wouldn't have thunk beating Denver in Denver, would ya?

am here curious to see why you guys think you'll blow us out. I am not offended, you are entitle to being confident in your team, but besides some who are serious and do not think an easy win, few give reasonable argument and many just give rah rah talks...
 
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1- you guys are having a blast... you like to make jokes and have fun rather than talking football, but that's what you get for being historic 16-0... I wish I knew the feeling...

2- some are serious football fans but many are homers, not surprising though

3- you are pathetic for having a pathological obsession with any smallest slights on your team... you pay attention and make threads on the most insignificant things as if you don't have enough topics to talk about...

4- you don't take any team seriously anymore perhaps except the Colts, but may be that's what 16-0 get to you.

5- old news but... you should be thankful to us for taking Elway and Denver out for your 2nd SB appearance. Ya wouldn't have thunk beating Denver in Denver, would ya?

am here curious to see why you guys think you'll blow us out. I am not offended, you are entitle to being confident in your team, but besides some who are serious and do not think an easy win, few give reasonable argument and many just give rah rah talks...

I think like every fan base and message board, we have a wide range of fans. You do have a point in that we tend to focuse on the negatives, howevere that's New England. As for me, I take every team seriously and JAX scares me. I think it's going to be a dog fight.
 
I feel the same way. A part of me wants to say "we're going to smoke the Jaguars," but in all reality, they do have the offensive weapons it takes to make it a very close game and possibly an upset.
 
i would appreciate it a lot if the refs didn't steal another Superbowl from this team.

i could really go for that not happening.
 
1- you guys are having a blast... you like to make jokes and have fun rather than talking football, but that's what you get for being historic 16-0... I wish I knew the feeling...

2- some are serious football fans but many are homers, not surprising though

3- you are pathetic for having a pathological obsession with any smallest slights on your team... you pay attention and make threads on the most insignificant things as if you don't have enough topics to talk about...

4- you don't take any team seriously anymore perhaps except the Colts, but may be that's what 16-0 get to you.

5- old news but... you should be thankful to us for taking Elway and Denver out for your 2nd SB appearance. Ya wouldn't have thunk beating Denver in Denver, would ya?

am here curious to see why you guys think you'll blow us out. I am not offended, you are entitle to being confident in your team, but besides some who are serious and do not think an easy win, few give reasonable argument and many just give rah rah talks...

There's plenty of football talk here you just have to look for it. And since you insulted this board I will say what I have held my tongue on.

Your board is full of the DUMBEST football fans I've ever seen. Truly, the dumbest. I thought Colts fans were kidding, they weren't. You have had long threads fighting over what color shirt you are supposed to wear to the game!
 
1- you guys are having a blast... you like to make jokes and have fun rather than talking football, but that's what you get for being historic 16-0... I wish I knew the feeling...

2- some are serious football fans but many are homers, not surprising though

3- you are pathetic for having a pathological obsession with any smallest slights on your team... you pay attention and make threads on the most insignificant things as if you don't have enough topics to talk about...

4- you don't take any team seriously anymore perhaps except the Colts, but may be that's what 16-0 get to you.

5- old news but... you should be thankful to us for taking Elway and Denver out for your 2nd SB appearance. Ya wouldn't have thunk beating Denver in Denver, would ya?

am here curious to see why you guys think you'll blow us out. I am not offended, you are entitle to being confident in your team, but besides some who are serious and do not think an easy win, few give reasonable argument and many just give rah rah talks...

First of all you have a defense that is predicated on being big and physical, but not very fast. This is going to allow Tom Brady to run the no huddle offense in a spread formation to tire out your D-line. The Pats will throw the football over 40 times in this game with some Maroney runs sprinkled in. You have 2 inexperienced linebackers that are going to be covering Welker and Watson that is automatically a mismatch. I forsee Brady slinging it all over the field. You offense is run oriented and if you can run the ball effectively with 8 men in the box like you have been doing as of late, you can stay in the game. But David Garrard is going to have to make some big plays in the passing game or this game will get out of control quickly. Brady and the offense is going to score points, it is a matter of can the Jags offense keep pace. I do not think so because if the Pats get up by 10 or 14 early, then you are going to throw more than run and that is where we start creating turnovers.
 
thanks for the discertation. Is Brunell still playing?

Obviously you'll find a lot of homers here but there are a lot of objective people here as well, who don't obsess over a slight as long as it is objective.

Anyways, there is no such thing as an easy win and I'm sure the Pats players feel the same way. Especially against a team like Jax that has a lot of momentum going in and plays a physical game. However, I think the double digit spread is justified for the following reasons:

1) The bye week. BB coached teams do NOT lose after the bye week. You are going up against a first ballot HOF coach who has made his mark through *preparation*. He has just been given an extra week to prepare, and that is the key point here, and possibly the biggest differentiating factor For every play that JAX ran a play this year, he has an answer for it at the ready, in every situation.

2) Matchups in the passing game. JAX secondary looked vulnerable against Pitts in the second half. You are going to have a tough time against Moss, welker, and company.

3) Big game experience. J Del rio vs BB, Garrard vs Brady, your defense against ours.

4) Combine the above with better talent and experience, and the double digit spread is justified.

I do like Reggie Nelson though. He's a keeper and has brought more than Merriweather, I dare say ( ducks for cover from the homer brigade)

Should be a good game, in the first half anyway. Good luck.
 
First of all you have a defense that is predicated on being big and physical, but not very fast. This is going to allow Tom Brady to run the no huddle offense in a spread formation to tire out your D-line. The Pats will throw the football over 40 times in this game with some Maroney runs sprinkled in. You have 2 inexperienced linebackers that are going to be covering Welker and Watson that is automatically a mismatch. I forsee Brady slinging it all over the field. You offense is run oriented and if you can run the ball effectively with 8 men in the box like you have been doing as of late, you can stay in the game. But David Garrard is going to have to make some big plays in the passing game or this game will get out of control quickly. Brady and the offense is going to score points, it is a matter of can the Jags offense keep pace. I do not think so because if the Pats get up by 10 or 14 early, then you are going to throw more than run and that is where we start creating turnovers.

spot on analysis
 
1- you guys are having a blast... you like to make jokes and have fun rather than talking football, but that's what you get for being historic 16-0... I wish I knew the feeling... Oh and CONGRATULATION!


Thanks! Most of us are having a BLAST! There are a few Pats fans that try to be buzzkills, but they're trumped by the great majority that are enjoying an unbelievable ride!
 
1- you guys are having a blast... you like to make jokes and have fun rather than talking football, but that's what you get for being historic 16-0... I wish I knew the feeling...

2- some are serious football fans but many are homers, not surprising though

3- you are pathetic for having a pathological obsession with any smallest slights on your team... you pay attention and make threads on the most insignificant things as if you don't have enough topics to talk about...

4- you don't take any team seriously anymore perhaps except the Colts, but may be that's what 16-0 get to you.

5- old news but... you should be thankful to us for taking Elway and Denver out for your 2nd SB appearance. Ya wouldn't have thunk beating Denver in Denver, would ya?

am here curious to see why you guys think you'll blow us out. I am not offended, you are entitle to being confident in your team, but besides some who are serious and do not think an easy win, few give reasonable argument and many just give rah rah talks...

First of all Mark, this our yard. we conduct business how We want to do it. Second, there all plenty of posts here explaining different views on how the game will go. Third, since you wanted an example, fine, I'll give one. Again. Your team is good, but not in the speed dept. Our rec. corp is top level for quickness and agility. I know of no players on the jags that can come close to Moss. Welker is another story. he can "get small" in a hurry and also is very quick. How about Tom? Ya think he can throw a bit? How about Asante? Think is isn't steath and quick? We can also run when we want. You are ok on the road, but this is playoffs now. A completly different animal. Your team likes to ground the runs and you will run the clock against yourselfs. Brady will give it to 3rd down and then grab another first to futher the run down of the clock. There are only 60 minutes to play and we have proven many times that we can score at will. I'm sure it will be a great game, but I have to say we come out on top. Oh and as far as being sensitive of any slight, you're GOD**M right we are. We have heard this Sh*t all year and takin it like the champs we are. Now its time to give back. The season speaks for itself and hopefully the Lombardi.
 
1- you guys are having a blast... you like to make jokes and have fun rather than talking football, but that's what you get for being historic 16-0... I wish I knew the feeling... Oh and CONGRATULATION!

Too bad most of the jokes on this board are horrible and have been run into the ground.

2- some are serious football fans but many are homers, not surprising though

It's the same as any fan board.

3- you are pathetic for having a pathological obsession with any smallest slights on your team (real, perceived, or contrived)... you pay attention and make threads on the most insignificant things as if you don't have enough topics to talk about...

This is definitely the case and seems to be something endemic to this region. For some reason the fact that the rest of the nation doesn't celebrate our team's success robs some of their ability to enjoy it. It's a shame too.

4- you don't take any team seriously anymore perhaps except the Colts, but may be that's what 16-0 get to you.

When another team proves they can consistently challenge the Patriots I'll take them a lot more seriously. Of course the Jags and Chargers and the NFC team can beat the Patriots but I only worry about the Colts because they've proven they can beat this team. Well, when Reche Caldwell is the best WR on the roster anyways. :)

5- old news but... you should be thankful to us for taking Elway and Denver out for your 2nd SB appearance. Ya wouldn't have thunk beating Denver in Denver, would ya?

Tony Boselli was a monster in that game. I won't thank the Jags because I would have rathered the Patriots go through the Broncos to get to the SB. Never beating Elway in his entire career is a tough pill to swallow.

am here curious to see why you guys think you'll blow us out. I am not offended, you are entitle to being confident in your team, but besides some who are serious and do not think an easy win, few give reasonable argument and many just give rah rah talks...

I'm expecting a solid victory not a blowout. Why?

Because our greatest threat, the passing game, is a much tougher hurdle for your defense than your rushing game is for our defense.
 
Having lived in Boston most of my life and Tampa the past 4 years let me say this. New England has some of the most negative fans on the planet. In Boston misery is a way of life, we ain't happy unless we have something to complain about. 86 years of torture with the Red Sox and 42 years with the Pats will do that to you.

Having said that there is not a group of more intense or more knowledgeable fans in the country whether it is baseball or football. Boston IS the best sports town in America. These shyt kickers down in FL are johnny come latelys who think 10 years of losing means they have paid their dues.

Yeah thanks for 1996, we appreciated it. Too bad we are not Denver.
 
I always worry no matter who we play - - - "any given Sunday", etc etc. I enjoy blowouts but never expect them - - - more used to the nailbiting seal the deal with a minute to go sort of scenario. Much more used to it.

I expect a tough game with Jax and feel the halftime adjustments will be critical to a win. All I hope is that no one gets hurt on either team. Do feel that playoff experience and coaching will be the difference and that edge I definitely have give to New England. (Been there done that before mentality.) They absolutely expect to win if they all do their job.

If they do get beat I expect the opposing team to have to fully earn it - - - not get it handed to them by a bevy of stupid mistakes. May the best team win (though I do admit I'm totally biased - - - fully expect the Pats to continue their run). Enjoy the competition, the playoffs are fun to watch!
One game at a time of course. :D
 
1- you guys are having a blast... you like to make jokes and have fun rather than talking football, but that's what you get for being historic 16-0... I wish I knew the feeling... Oh and CONGRATULATION!

2- some are serious football fans but many are homers, not surprising though

3- you are pathetic for having a pathological obsession with any smallest slights on your team (real, perceived, or contrived)... you pay attention and make threads on the most insignificant things as if you don't have enough topics to talk about...

4- you don't take any team seriously anymore perhaps except the Colts, but may be that's what 16-0 get to you.

5- old news but... you should be thankful to us for taking Elway and Denver out for your 2nd SB appearance. Ya wouldn't have thunk beating Denver in Denver, would ya?

am here curious to see why you guys think you'll blow us out. I am not offended, you are entitle to being confident in your team, but besides some who are serious and do not think an easy win, few give reasonable argument and many just give rah rah talks...

1- There isn't any football to talk, atm. The Pats haven't played in almost 2 weeks.

2- There are homers everywhere.

3- After the Spygate fallout, we're still a little touchy about the media witch hunt. Call it pathetic if you want, but you'd be doing the same if it happened to your team, and nobody really cares if you don't like it anyways.

4- We expect that the Pats will win, sure. Doesn't mean that we don't take anyone seriously. Every week we get fans like you coming in and describing some scenario where their team will win, and every week it just doesn't happen. So yeah, we're a little dismissive of that, at this point, but that doesn't mean that we don't take the teams seriously.

5- Sure, the Pats could have beaten Denver. That said, BB's record against Shanahan in recent years isn't exactly stellar, so thanks, I guess. Not sure what you were going for there. Every team has bad matchups.

I don't think the game will be a blowout. I think that your secondary is hopelessly overmatched and that, while your running game will get its yards, and probably a couple of scores, it won't be able to keep up with the Pats' offense. I'm thinking 34-24 would be a pretty reasonable final score, and that's not a blowout by any measure.
 
If you want your Denver team to play against Pats, your team needs to get a ticket number because every team in NFL wants to have a piece of 16/19-0 team.

Hopefully, we will compete during 08 regular season. If yours wants to compete with pats during play off, yours needs to be on the list of top 5 NFL teams.

When pats wins, i'm happy and if pats doesn't play well, i criticize.

Being a pats fan, i seriously have some health issue because i scream a lot during the game and my blood pressure was so high that my friend told me to calm down when pats made a bad play.

Other than that, i love trash-talking. Having fun is the reason i'm here .
 
3- you are pathetic...
Thank. Happy New Year to you, too.

you should be thankful to us for taking Elway and Denver out for your 2nd SB appearance. Ya wouldn't have thunk beating Denver in Denver, would ya?
Goash, yeah, thanks. No one but you could have won that game. We should give you the Lombardi. The least we can do is let you win Saturday night. Fair's fair.

you are entitle to being confident in your team,..
Thank you.

you are entitle to being confident in your team, but ...
Ah, there is always a but, isn't there.

you are entitle to being confident in your team, but besides some who are serious and do not think an easy win, few give reasonable argument and many just give rah rah talks...
Surprising as this may be to you, those who think it will be an easy win are being serious, and just because some of us think it will be easy does not mean we are being unreasonable. A rah rah talk is when you are only two-three games over .500 and brag about how you will do. It isn't rah rah when you merely note that no one, not no one not no how, has yet to beat you.
 
I think the game will be a blowout because Jax is not designed to score with us. People often overlook just how good against the run the Pats are. I have a lot of respect for the Jacksonville run game but the offense is one-dimensional. Everything is predicated upon establishing the run early. If Jacksonville doesn't win on first and second down, they are in a lot of trouble. New England plays the run as well as anyone, and I don't think Jacksonville will be able to dominate the LOS like they can other teams. Furthermore, New England defends the play action and deep balls as well as anyone. They rarely bite on play fakes.

Jacksonville will be forced into 3rd and 5, 3rd and 7 situations and forced to punt frequently. They lack the slot threat to convert over our linebackers in those situations.

Because of this, New England will have the ball more freqently than many think. We matchup extremely well against the Jacksonville secondary, especially when we force them into dime packages against 5-wide and 4-wide sets. The under routes will be carved up by the likes of Welker and Gaffney, setting up the Moss Balls. In addition, JAX is not overly active in persuit and I think there is a real opportinity for YAC stuff from Stallworth who is in my opinion the best after the catch guy I have ever seen.

I respect the Jags, but I just think that they do not matchup well against what we do. Indy, on the other hand is a totally different story...
 
am here curious to see why you guys think you'll blow us out. I am not offended, you are entitle to being confident in your team, but besides some who are serious and do not think an easy win, few give reasonable argument and many just give rah rah talks...
Oops, hit reply too soon.

Why do we think we will blow you out this year?

Here's a reasoned response:

Last time we met in the playoffs, you were 12-4 and we were 10-6, and we manhandled you and you lost 28-3.

Now you are only 11-5 and we are 16-0.

Look at the numbers. Really look at them. See that we have gotten so much better and you have not even held you own over the last two years.

It is unreasonable to think that the game will not be a blowout.

Now go away.
 
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I feel the same way. A part of me wants to say "we're going to smoke the Jaguars," but in all reality, they do have the offensive weapons it takes to make it a very close game and possibly an upset.

With all due respect to Jax....they do not have what it takes to compete with us. Their passing game is fair and ours is excellent. Jax will have huge problems defending our passing game and they better hope they can succeed on the ground and control the clock to some extent or their worst nightmare comes true - being blown out.

Honestly - I see NE winning this thing about 38-10.
 
There's plenty of football talk here you just have to look for it. And since you insulted this board I will say what I have held my tongue on.

Your board is full of the DUMBEST football fans I've ever seen. Truly, the dumbest. I thought Colts fans were kidding, they weren't. You have had long threads fighting over what color shirt you are supposed to wear to the game!
If I'm ever in a fight, I want Tommysgirl on my side. :p
 
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