Dolphins fire coach Cameron

[shula_guy]

Parcells can only sign players and make personnel decisions. How is it going to be the battle of the Bills if one is in the front office and one is on the field with a headset?

The Dolphins will be dubbed Parcels team and weather or not he is on the field or not it is his guys in place and the media will build it up as a great rivalry and the pressure will be there on both of them.

 

[Tommysgirl]

I agree that the Tuna will help the Fins. However, he will gone in 2 years before the Fins are complete. He has a bit of a track record....

 

[tombonneau]

I agree that the Tuna will help the Fins. However, he will gone in 2 years before the Fins are complete. He has a bit of a track record....

Exactly. Good ol' Pump 'n Dump Parcells will be "heading out for a pack of cigarettes" before we hit 2010.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

Sorry just dont remember, I remember Lossmann is out but cant recall who took his place.

Patswicked:

I did not divert the topic. The questions your asking dont support the point your trying to imply. I could ask you What BB's record was in cleavland or How effective would the Pats be if BP didnt draft Brady or bring his son in law pioli into your organazation. If anyone is trying to divert it is you.

The point I was making was there is a very competive spirit between BB and BP and Parcels will be gearing his team up to match up well against the Pats.

The two reasons being that right now they are the standard that everyone evaluates teams against and the two Bills both have big ego's and are driven by being acknowledged as the best.

The point you're IGNORING obtusely, after you'd raised the issue, is that The Tuner has NOT done well 'gearing up' vs BB not when the Tuner was at the Jets nor when he was at Dallas. Despite the ignorant hype by the Tuner rump swabs in the unthinking press, he really hasn't had success without BB or against him.

If you knew any football history you'd also know that when the Tuner coached the Patriots he also LOST his 1st playoff game to...BB of the Browns.

Owned.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

The Dolphins will be dubbed Parcels team and weather or not he is on the field or not it is his guys in place and the media will build it up as a great rivalry and the pressure will be there on both of them.

BB has THRIVED under pressure
The Tuner has not.
See their respective and head-to-head records.

 

[shula_guy]

The point you're IGNORING obtusely, after you'd raised the issue, is that The Tuner has NOT done well 'gearing up' vs BB not when the Tuner was at the Jets nor when he was at Dallas. Despite the ignorant hype by the Tuner rump swabs in the unthinking press, he really hasn't had success without BB or against him.

If you knew any football history you'd also know that when the Tuner coached the Patriots he also LOST his 1st playoff game to...BB of the Browns.

Owned.

You are entitled to your opinion and you may be right BP may not find sucess against BB. I hope BB carries the same complacent attitude towards the significance of having Parcels in his conference.

I dont see how you can say Parcels has not had sucess without BB and I could make very similiar comments about BB without Parcels putting a framework in place for BB to work within. I wont because it would be just as inaccurate as the statements you are trying to pass off as facts.

It is difficult to maintain dialouge with you when you lace your commentary with venomous bites. Why are you trying to make everything so personel? Your team right now is considered the best in the nfl and it is the standard that everyone is going to try to beat, be grateful for the sucess your team has brought to you. Stop hating and try enjoying it.

Miami wont be ready to contend next season but be aware were drinking milk and we will be coming to reclaim our title of the dominant team of the AFC EAST.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

You are entitled to your opinion and you may be right BP may not find sucess against BB. I hope BB carries the same complacent attitude towards the significance of having Parcels in his conference.

PWP: This may be a little complicated for you to understand but I am simply a fan posting on the internet. Belichick's entire career shows no such complacency. Dream on with your 'hope''.

I dont see how you can say Parcels has not had sucess without BB and I could make very similiar comments about BB without Parcels putting a framework in place for BB to work within. I wont because it would be just as inaccurate as the statements you are trying to pass off as facts.

Nonsense.
You suddenly realize that your unsubstantiated claims had no basis in facts.
Here are the Cold Hard Football Facts.
1. Parcells has not won a playoff game without BB. None. Zero.
2. BB has won over a dozen playoff games and 3 SuperBowls without the over-rated has-been Tuner.
3. The Tuner LOST his playoff game against BB.
4. The Tuner LOST against BB when the Tuner was in Dallas.

I await your citation of facts to support your ludicrous opinion that the Tuner, now on social security and medicare will suddenly pose a serious challenge to BB.

P.S. If you're gonna be a major league Tuna rump swab, you might want to learn to spell 'Parcells'

 

[IcyPatriot]

Becareful Pats fans I would say Bill is going to be a gearing up a team to match up well against the Pats. Firstly they run very simliar schemes and Bill will be all about showing the world that it was he who made BB. And we all know how much the media is going to hype the Dolphins/Pats game now that its a battle of the two Bills twice a season every season.

Parcells made Belichick? What a joke that is. Parcells gave Belichick opportunity ... Belichick's dad Steve nurtured Bill's mind at a young age to be wired for football. You need to go over your history. My bet is Parcells has no "0" Super Bowl wins without Belichick.

 

[NEPatriot]

everybody expects it to happen. 2007 was the year when NFL coachs and assistants were fired more than in previous year. Have you noticed that.?

how about Jets.? Jets' coach is fired.?

 

[Bigdogx]

This would of been the perfect move for Miami 3 or 4 years ago when they had the horses to make a run. Unless Bill can rebuild this entire team from the o and d line's to a complete needed overhaul in the secondary and most importantly no qb with nothing but trash in college right now, i think Bill is going to find this a tuffer task then some here think!

 

[shula_guy]

Nonsense.
You suddenly realize that your unsubstantiated claims had no basis in facts.
Here are the Cold Hard Football Facts.
1. Parcells has not won a playoff game without BB. None. Zero.
2. BB has won over a dozen playoff games and 3 SuperBowls without the over-rated has-been Tuner.
3. The Tuner LOST his playoff game against BB.
4. The Tuner LOST against BB when the Tuner was in Dallas.

I await your citation of facts to support your ludicrous opinion that the Tuner, now on social security and medicare will suddenly pose a serious challenge to BB.

P.S. If you're gonna be a major league Tuna rump swab, you might want to learn to spell 'Parcells'

Your too much for me buddy. My opinion is inferior to yours. Im honored that you were gracious enough to spend your valuable time responding to my post. It must be a lonely world you live in sitting up in your ivory tower looking down at the rest of us.

 

[Tommysgirl]

Your too much for me buddy. My opinion is inferior to yours. Im honored that you were gracious enough to spend your valuable time responding to my post. It must be a lonely world you live in sitting up in your ivory tower looking down at the rest of us.

Shula, so far you seem reasonable unlike some other fans. I think the point that is making Pats fans giggle a bit about how the Dolphins are so excited that the Tuna is there is because they don't realize the history.

It is a fact that the Tuna has been nothing without BB. Nothing. This factoid keeps us from worrying about the Fins taking us over all of a sudden. Dolphins fans have neither been seen, nor heard from all season (except one poor delusional one who never goes away), now they are thumping their chests.

 

[karran_s]

Rebuilding is not going to be easy and it all depends on who Bill gets as coach and who he's going to start as QB...

I wasn't impressed with Lemon and it's doubtful he'll stay on. However, that's just my opinion.

The big Tuna has a big rep but he was always surrounded by good people when he had the maximum success. I think that's going to be the Tuna's main role - make good choices for the personnel. After that, it's going to be up to the coaches and the players as the Tuna has indicated that he's not going to be coaching any more and will not be in the players faces all the time.

I think it will take them a few years to re-build. They will be hopelessly outmatched by NE unless the Pats give up or make some incredible blunders that would literally hand the game over to them.

Next season, if they notch 4 wins and have a 4 - 12 or maybe even a 5 - 11 season, they should be reasonably happy. Count 2 losses against NE in the right column though.

 

[Terry Glenn is a cowgirl]

Pump 'n Dump Parcells...

That is a VERY funny knickname!!!!

VERY cool imo.

So true.

 

[Tommysgirl]

LOL @ Dolphins fans thumping our chests about anything. Thats just funny. I have been a fan for a looooong time and this is the very worst season I have ever had to endure. Not only because of the losses but the way we lost our games has just been demoralizing for thier fans.

I try to remain objective about things. In regards to the idea that Parcells has been nothing without BB. Yes it is true that most of his sucesses have been while BB has been with him, but that is not to say he cannot do it without him. BB is running an organazation that he inherited from BP but that does not mean in anyway that BB is not a HOF caliber coach. They are both two of the great coaches the NFL has ever had and they spent time together feeding off each others strengths.

Parcels was certainly well on his way to rebuilding the Cowboys into a superbowl contender before him and Jerry Jones had thier falling out. BB had no involvement with that, so to say he has had no sucess without him is somewhat disingenious. I could say BB has not had any sucess out of the BP formats but that too would be a disingenious statement.

Bottom line is Parcells is now in your division and he will be playing the Pats at least twice a season. Do I think we will be making a playoff run this next season, of course not. Realistically I think we are about 3yrs out and some very good decisions need to be made over the course of those 3yrs to make it happen. It is not far fetched to believe that Parcells will accomplish it without BB.

As a Dolphin fan I am more then happy with the Parcells pick up and I look forward to our future accomplishments that his hire is going to lead to.

I have not been here all season because I dont follow your team. Im not here to beat my chest. I came here to get a feel for how you guys were enjoying the acomplishment of going undefeated and the records you all have currently set. I was caught by surprise to see so much decussion about the Dolphins going on.

I don't think you are thumping you chest, others have been though. You're right about a lot of things except BB inherting the Pats from BP-he didn't. They were with the Jets--the beginning of the end of their friendship.