Plaxico Burress' Blocks Were More Dangerous Than Wilfork's Pointing

[maverick4]

The announcers and media are overblowing Wilfork's point at Jacobs. There was no intent to injure, no actual poke, merely a vigorous point at Jacobs as if he was saying to Jacobs at the time, 'you're going down'.

For those of you wondering why Rodney was so hot-headed last night, after the game he talked about how Plaxico and other receivers were repeatedly going after his knees on cheapshot blocks.

Which action is more dangerous, more classless, and has a greater intent to injure? Also, keep in mind Plaxico and crew did this all game, compared to Wilfork's one pointing incident.

 

[Pujo]

Cut blocks are dangerous but they're allowed. What Wilfork did was clearly out of line, and let's stop calling it "pointing". You think if someone did that to Tom Brady we'd be using that term? It was poking. I don't think what Wilfork did was any kind of mortal sin, worse things happen, but he deserves his fine... nothing more, nothing less.

 

[Dr Pain]

I wish we saw the entire fight. The Vince part of it was after the fight and we never saw what happened that may have provoked it.

 

[Pujo]

I wish we saw the entire fight. The Vince part of it was after the fight and we never saw what happened that may have provoked it.

I'm guessing at the very least something very innapropriate was said to Wilfork. It doesn't excuse what he did, but I sincerily doubt he would have done it if he wasn't provoked. It's one of those do-it-now-and-think-about-it-later actions.

 

[Remix 6]

randy moss was cut blocking as well...

 

[DW Toys]

I'm guessing at the very least something very innapropriate was said to Wilfork. It doesn't excuse what he did, but I sincerily doubt he would have done it if he wasn't provoked. It's one of those do-it-now-and-think-about-it-later actions.

Notice that BB did not pull VW. He did yank Harrison with a dumb PF. Although there was no penalty, I did not see anyone go to speak to VW.
He missed his eye "gouge". Goodell has to prove intent to injure. This is all garbage, please. Let's dump this thread. If Goodell has to fine everyone in the NFL for intent to injure, we could pay the countrys' deficit.
DW Toys

 

[Touchback Jack]

he was adjusting his contact lens!

 

[Pujo]

Notice that BB did not pull VW. He did yank Harrison with a dumb PF. Although there was no penalty, I did not see anyone go to speak to VW.

Because it didn't draw a penalty. I'm sure BB could care less as long as it doesn't hurt the team.

He missed his eye "gouge".

So if VW pulled out a gun, squeezed off a shot, and missed, that'd be ok? As long as he missed?

Goodell has to prove intent to injure.

Where did you pull that out from? How do you know that the standard is "intent to injure"? Maybe putting your fingers inside a players facemask constitutes prima facie evidence? Wilfork WILL be fined for what he did, as he should be (and no, he shouldn't be suspended). Imagine how you'd feel if someone did that to Brady.

 

[maverick4]

So if VW pulled out a gun, squeezed off a shot, and missed, that'd be ok? As long as he missed?

But Wilfork wasn't 'shooting'. He didn't try to poke the guy's eye. He was pointing at him. It's not like Vince tried to 'shoot' and then missed. Bad example.

If you look at the clip, Jacobs wasn't afraid either, he never blinked or looked away even though Vince's

 

[Pujo]

But Wilfork wasn't 'shooting'. He didn't try to poke the guy's eye. He was pointing at him. It's not like Vince tried to 'shoot' and then missed. Bad example.

If you look at the clip, Jacobs wasn't afraid either, he never blinked or looked away even though Vince's

There is something called "strict liability" when you're doing high-risk things (in common law, I don't know about the CBA). If you're jabbing your finger and it makes contact with someone's face, your intent is irrelevant, you should have just known better. Vince should have known better. Again, if you can tell me with a straight face that you'd feel the same way if it was someone doing that to Brady...

 

[maverick4]

There is something called "strict liability" when you're doing high-risk things (in common law, I don't know about the CBA). If you're jabbing your finger and it makes contact with someone's face, your intent is irrelevant, you should have just known better. Vince should have known better. Again, if you can tell me with a straight face that you'd feel the same way if it was someone doing that to Brady...

With a straight face, I would say that if the same thing happened to Brady or any other Pat, I would say the opposing player WOULD NOT get suspended. And I would also bet that the announcers and media would hardly even make it a big deal, probably just ignore it.

 

[Pujo]

With a straight face, I would say that if the same thing happened to Brady or any other Pat, I would say the opposing player WOULD NOT get suspended. And I would also bet that the announcers and media would hardly even make it a big deal, probably just ignore it.

I didn't ask whether you thought he'd be suspended. I don't think Wilfork will be (nor does he deserve to be). I'm just asking whether you'd think it was no big deal if someone did that to Brady? Would they deserve a fine?

 

[maverick4]

I didn't ask whether you thought he'd be suspended. I don't think Wilfork will be (nor does he deserve to be). I'm just asking whether you'd think it was no big deal if someone did that to Brady? Would they deserve a fine?

pujo, I definitely Wilfork should and will be fined.

But all the media talk about possible suspension and on this board, even from Pats posters like mgteich who thinks Wilfork should definitely be suspended, are over the top in my opinion.