Thoughts On Perfect Season and Best Ever

[wilson1111]

I do not feel so good about the undefeated season as some of you.You may think I am a bad fan but I love the Pats and don`t think they need help from the NFL.Yes an undefeated season is good for buisness but not when it is blemished.The Baltimore Ravens won that game without the officials playing for our team.Even when we got rewarded with a TD we did not control as we went OB the Ravens still came back.The last play of the game,a 52 yd reception,gave Ravens ball on our 1 yd line.There was a glaring penalty against our team once again not called as time ran out,robbing Baltimore of a win.
I would much rather see our team 13-1 than to get a win like that.

 

[Joker]

there was a glaring penalty against the RAVENS that wasn't called at the end of the game, not the Pats. Not sure you saw the same game.

 

[Tommysgirl]

I do not feel so good about the undefeated season as some of you.You may think I am a bad fan but I love the Pats and don`t think they need help from the NFL.Yes an undefeated season is good for buisness but not when it is blemished.The Baltimore Ravens won that game without the officials playing for our team.Even when we got rewarded with a TD we did not control as we went OB the Ravens still came back.The last play of the game,a 52 yd reception,gave Ravens ball on our 1 yd line.There was a glaring penalty against our team once again not called as time ran out,robbing Baltimore of a win.
I would much rather see our team 13-1 than to get a win like that.

Seriuosly, dude, get a life. When you are the fan of another team who comes on here, just say it. There is nothing more idiotic than trolls who come on here pretending to be a Pats fan. Be a man, be proud of your team, don't be a pathetic loser.

 

[NEPatriot]

There is no doubt that we havent gone 19-0 yet, and the hardest part is yet to come.
My point is that 19-0 happens over 22 weeks (reg season bye, 1st round bye, week off before SB) and if we wait to be excited about it until the SB is over we wasted 21 of the 22 weeks. Should we be 14/19ths of the way there by now?

I don't look at that way. I try to enjoy each week and let the season unfold. As other's have noted, there's so much football left to play.

 

[Clonamery]

I do not feel so good about the undefeated season as some of you.You may think I am a bad fan but I love the Pats and don`t think they need help from the NFL.Yes an undefeated season is good for buisness but not when it is blemished.The Baltimore Ravens won that game without the officials playing for our team.Even when we got rewarded with a TD we did not control as we went OB the Ravens still came back.The last play of the game,a 52 yd reception,gave Ravens ball on our 1 yd line.There was a glaring penalty against our team once again not called as time ran out,robbing Baltimore of a win.
I would much rather see our team 13-1 than to get a win like that.

I don't think you are a bad fan, just bad at understanding football, English grammar and probably many other things (just like myself).

Now, don't punish yourself over it....the luck thingeee usually balances out in the long run....

Happy Holidays and I forgive you for trying to be a Scrooge.

 

[loofasisgeek]

"My point is that 19-0 happens over 22 weeks (reg season bye, 1st round bye, week off before SB) and if we wait to be excited about it until the SB is over we wasted 21 of the 22 weeks. Should we be 14/19ths of the way there by now?"

No. My mind doesn't work that way. I don't get 14/19ths of the enjoyment from getting a job 14/19ths done. Maybe it should, but it's just not how I work. This thinking pattern has helped me get more things 100% done to my satisfaction in my own life, and is deeply engrained.

As you pointed out, it doesn't make alot of sense to think this way as a fan because my attitude has no impact on the outcome, but being a fan is an odd thing: you feel ownership of something you don't own. In any case, it's It's not something that I can turn off entirely and so, no I'm not ready to feel the joy about this season yet - but am aware what is at stake joy-wise if the job gets done right.

If they go 16-0 and lose in the playoffs, I WILL get some satisfaction from the season despite the dissappointment.

 

[aluminum seats]

Seriuosly, dude, get a life. When you are the fan of another team who comes on here, just say it. There is nothing more idiotic than trolls who come on here pretending to be a Pats fan. Be a man, be proud of your team, don't be a pathetic loser.

I know, that is pathetic, isn't it? It's so lame it almost seems intentionally so......"Yes, I am a very big Patriots fan but why do we cheat all the time and why do we get all the calls? I know understand why other teams hate us, I hate us, too." Come on, trolls, at least TRY.

As the questions from AJ, I think it was hard NOT to at least think of a perfect season early on, because it was talked about so much. I'm just enjoying every day of this season--it's a great ride.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

I do not feel so good about the undefeated season as some of you.You may think I am a bad fan but I love the Pats and don`t think they need help from the NFL.Yes an undefeated season is good for buisness but not when it is blemished.The Baltimore Ravens won that game without the officials playing for our team.Even when we got rewarded with a TD we did not control as we went OB the Ravens still came back.The last play of the game,a 52 yd reception,gave Ravens ball on our 1 yd line. There was a glaring penalty against our team once again not called as time ran out,robbing Baltimore of a win.

Umm . . . That's stupid, on multiple levels.
(1) First off, what penalty by the Patriots was missed? I saw blatant offensive PI with Ravens shoving Asante Samuel *and* Randall Gay, but I didn't see any penalties by the Patriots.
(2) Even if there were a penalty, it likely wouldn't have helped: if it were anything other than a personal foul, accepting the penalty would negate the play. (If you can make a valid case for defensive PI at the spot of the catch--which is a mighty big stretch--that would be a different story.)

 

[captain stone]

So true ... about the "holding back".
I'm glad you brought that aspect out.

It actually is very creditable to most of this wee community.
Boast-proof.
Humble. Modest.
Like the team ... always looking for how to improve, even a little bit.

MUCH rather be that way ... than vicariously triumphalist.
Especially before the fact.

I agree with the always-eloquent PsychoPat.

It ain't ovah 'til it's ovah.

Late-season nail-biters against inferior competition always disturb me.

Give me anti-climactic blowouts, during which the QB and LBs can rest, every time.

 

[Tommysgirl]

I agree with the always-eloquent PsychoPat.

It ain't ovah 'til it's ovah.

Late-season nail-biters against inferior competition always disturb me.

Give me anti-climactic blowouts, during which the QB and LBs can rest, every time.

I like the nail biters sometimes. This is how we paved the way to 3 Super Bowls. How many nail biters were there? I remember Tom even saying once he felt bad for the fans because they may have a heart attack some times watching them.

 

[The Boston Patriot]

First of all, it really surprises me that there is so little 'how great we are' commentary on this board. I wonder if we are not living in the moment, holding back until the SB is over.
Maybe its the ever present fear of the 'jinx'? But we are 5 wins away from perfection, and not only the best team ever for a season, but very, very arguable the best franchsie ever over a 7 year run. I have always felt that ALL that matters is winning the SB. I still say it is what matters most, but I am finding myself rooting for this teams place in history.
If the perfect season is completed, we will have accomplished, starting on the day Tom Brady became the starting QB, a 7 year run of an overall record of 101-26. Stop and think about THAT. Over 7 years that equals an average overall record of 14.4-3.7. OVER 14 wins a year for 7 years. 4 SB titles in 7 years, and a playoff record of 15-2. It still has to be finished, but I can absolutely say that if and when it is there is no way, no how that anyone will ever be able to convince me that this is not the best team ever for a season, AND for an era.

I remember back to early in the season when the talk of a perfect season or best ever started. Consistently any reference to it was met by a barrage of 'are you an idiot' 'no way that happens' 'only a homer could even suggest it'. Here we are on the brink. My question is at what point or points did you start to think that?
Heres mine. In complete honesty. During the SD game in WEEK 2 I said to my 9 year old son 'Buddy, I have a feeling you may be watching the best team ever'. When I think back it seems sooooo early to be thinking that, but I truly did, at least to the point of entertaining the possibility.
I think that the Miami game was when I really started thinking a perfect season was a real possibility. I was in Vegas that week, arriving midnight Vegas time on Saturday night. What do you do in Vegas when you arrive at midnight? Of course you stay up all night. The game starts at 10 am Vegas time, so why sleep? I watched the first half in the sports book (while watching half of my bets lose) showered, and went back down for the second half. During the 42-0 first half, Brady hit Moss on 2 mind-boggling deep TDs that just looked like "here it is, proof we can do whatever we want to you". Cassell comes in and throws the Int, then Brady is put back in. I'm sitting in the sports book and Brady comes in and 5 plays its 5 passes and an 80(?) yard TD drive. I was LITERALLY laughing during the drive (unusual for me, even after 12 hours of drinking) basically saying this team is totally unstoppable. From that point on, I have never really doubted the perfect season.
The point of my post is this:
1) Are we holding back from just enjoying the ride until its over?
2) When did you start believing in the perfect season?
3) If you were one of the 'your an idiot for even suggesting 19-0' guys, at what point did you realize it was more likely than not.

Sorry but I refuse to get ahead of the next game. [Drinks BB Kool-Aid here - but thinking about updating my sig pretty soon!]

 

[Michigan Dave]

I'm holding back. I'm enjoying each and every game for what it is, and reveling in how great things have been thusfar in 2007. Still, I like to keep perspective since it all becomes moot unless that silver trophy is raised. I don't think that there is any way to start talking about "best of all-time," etc. until the title has been won. Those 3 playof games are the toughest 3 games of the season. I'm not going to discourage others from doing so, and I like to read it because it's surreal at times how well we've played this year. But I'll wait until we have the t-shirts and hats on to really examine the team's place in history.

 

[captain stone]

I like the nail biters sometimes. This is how we paved the way to 3 Super Bowls. How many nail biters were there? I remember Tom even saying once he felt bad for the fans because they may have a heart attack some times watching them.

And I thought that these pains I've been feeling since Thanksgiving were indigestion.

 

[Boston Jay]

I'm holding back. I'd rather go 15-1 and win the SB than 17-1 and go home.

Nailbiters are great to look back upon..

 

[Ring 6]

I do not feel so good about the undefeated season as some of you.You may think I am a bad fan but I love the Pats and don`t think they need help from the NFL.Yes an undefeated season is good for buisness but not when it is blemished.The Baltimore Ravens won that game without the officials playing for our team.Even when we got rewarded with a TD we did not control as we went OB the Ravens still came back.The last play of the game,a 52 yd reception,gave Ravens ball on our 1 yd line.There was a glaring penalty against our team once again not called as time ran out,robbing Baltimore of a win.
I would much rather see our team 13-1 than to get a win like that.

You arent a bad fan because you arent a fan.
When defensive players hold at a critical point in a game and it is called it is the players fault not the ref. When you have to hold to stop the other team, that is one of the reasons the other team is better than you. Gaffney made the catch cleanly.
As far as the last play of the game, there was a penalty, Derrick Mason TACKLED Asante Samuel when the ball was in the air.

Go somewhere else and make up stories.

 

[Ring 6]

"My point is that 19-0 happens over 22 weeks (reg season bye, 1st round bye, week off before SB) and if we wait to be excited about it until the SB is over we wasted 21 of the 22 weeks. Should we be 14/19ths of the way there by now?"

No. My mind doesn't work that way. I don't get 14/19ths of the enjoyment from getting a job 14/19ths done. Maybe it should, but it's just not how I work. This thinking pattern has helped me get more things 100% done to my satisfaction in my own life, and is deeply engrained.

As you pointed out, it doesn't make alot of sense to think this way as a fan because my attitude has no impact on the outcome, but being a fan is an odd thing: you feel ownership of something you don't own. In any case, it's It's not something that I can turn off entirely and so, no I'm not ready to feel the joy about this season yet - but am aware what is at stake joy-wise if the job gets done right.

If they go 16-0 and lose in the playoffs, I WILL get some satisfaction from the season despite the dissappointment.

I'm not saying you should be happy to partly finish a job. I'm saying are fans in general enjoying wins less, because they want to wait to see it in the context of the season.
In other words, if we were 11-3 last weeks win would have been huge, and produced enjoyment, because it had meaning. Now, the only meaning is if it leads to a SB win. I'm not really saying its a concious thing, but I dont know that we are recognizing the moment we are living in.

 

[BelichickFan]

I think I'm one of the few who wants 16-0 regardless of whether we win the SB. Now, of course, I'd prefer 15-1 with a SB win than 16-0 without one. But if you told me that we weren't winning the SB either way, I'd love the 16-0; sure it would suck to do that then lose but to go 16-0 is still a remarkable accomplishment whatever happens in the playoffs.

 

[loofasisgeek]

"I'm not saying you should be happy to partly finish a job. I'm saying are fans in general enjoying wins less, because they want to wait to see it in the context of the season.
In other words, if we were 11-3 last weeks win would have been huge, and produced enjoyment, because it had meaning. Now, the only meaning is if it leads to a SB win. I'm not really saying its a concious thing, but I dont know that we are recognizing the moment we are living in."


I see. The answer to your question is "Yes". I AM enjoying wins less. If we were at 11-3 and won last week - and especially if the win could have effected our seeding in playoffs - I would have enjoyed it much more. As it is, I just felt "one-step-closer".

People say that the thing about being at the top is that there's no place to go but down... I guess that's where I'm at. Of course, there is also the possibility that you don't go anywhere and you stay at the stop... and week by week you can be damn happy about that... but for me it's a tempered enjoyment somewhat less than the 11-3 scenario above.

Is that so wrong? Andy, do I need counselling?

 

[Disco Volante]

I do not feel so good about the undefeated season as some of you.You may think I am a bad fan but I love the Pats and don`t think they need help from the NFL.Yes an undefeated season is good for buisness but not when it is blemished.The Baltimore Ravens won that game without the officials playing for our team.Even when we got rewarded with a TD we did not control as we went OB the Ravens still came back.The last play of the game,a 52 yd reception,gave Ravens ball on our 1 yd line.There was a glaring penalty against our team once again not called as time ran out,robbing Baltimore of a win.
I would much rather see our team 13-1 than to get a win like that.

Bitter Rat-Bird fan trying to get anger out via a Pats "fan" gimmick account. Boring.

 

[BradyManny]

1) Are we holding back from just enjoying the ride until its over?
2) When did you start believing in the perfect season?
3) If you were one of the 'your an idiot for even suggesting 19-0' guys, at what point did you realize it was more likely than not.

1) There are two words to describe this season: AWESOME and WEIRD. Awesome b/c this is the best team I've ever watched, and weird b/c of all the hype, all the focus on us, it's really been a different and crazy experience. It's been stressful and at times, I feel like I just want the regular season to end.

The quest for a perfect season is wearing on me as a FAN, imagine how the players must feel. This season has truly been EXHAUSTING, but it's been a great ride.

2) After the Colts game. Just looking at the schedule, it looked possible.

3) I thought the suggestion of 16-0 was a bit crazy b/c I felt in the NFL, it's impossible to play your best 16 straight times, and it's impossible not to face a team that plays out of it's mind a couple of times. That's been true to the Pats season, but amazingly we're still undefeated. I think after the Cowboys game was when I first started to stop saying "don't mention 16-0, that's insane". Rolling over the third best team in the league made me realize this team could do it, but again, it wasn't until the Colts game, until we'd gone through them, that I thought 16-0 was possible.